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Old 06-27-2014, 06:54 PM
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You may have missed this one, as it only seems to come up with a "69 Firebird" search and not in the collector cars. With a $5289 MSRP and leather interior, it's loaded. Currently at $8100 with the reserve off. An ADV.ASSN.COL car, I assume it was built to showcase the options for potential buyers.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Fire...US_Cars_Trucks

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Old 07-26-2014, 10:29 PM
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She's a beauty...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Pontiac...p2056016.l4276

A few things wrong with this 67 Firebird, but a lot of it is right.

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Old 07-27-2014, 04:25 PM
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I liked all the options on the 6/27 69, but not the original colors.

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Old 07-27-2014, 11:50 PM
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An ADV.ASSN.COL car, I assume it was built to showcase the options for potential buyers.
This is just to help folks understand - who might not be aware.

Usually this is on the Invoice in 2 lines
OPT LOC_________ADV. ASSN. COL

It all goes together
Optional Local Advertising Association Collections

Really has nothing to do with the car itself.
When dealers elected to be a part of an advertising pool in their area with other PMD dealers - they were charged a set amount per vehicle sold.

Some areas were $5 per car , some $10 , some $15 - just depended on the area and amount/cost of advertising.

Whether it was a no-option Tempest, or loaded Bonne Vert, same fee per car.
Not all dealers were on these programs.

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Old 07-28-2014, 07:32 AM
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This is just to help folks understand - who might not be aware.

Usually this is on the Invoice in 2 lines
OPT LOC_________ADV. ASSN. COL

It all goes together
Optional Local Advertising Association Collections

Really has nothing to do with the car itself.
When dealers elected to be a part of an advertising pool in their area with other PMD dealers - they were charged a set amount per vehicle sold.

Some areas were $5 per car , some $10 , some $15 - just depended on the area and amount/cost of advertising.

Whether it was a no-option Tempest, or loaded Bonne Vert, same fee per car.
Not all dealers were on these programs.
Not all cars were special orders, so I assumed Pontiac would build some heavily optioned cars to put in the dealers showroom to showcase the options. I would also assume they'd build some low optioned cars because that's all some could afford. Would you assume cars like these would be an ADV. ASSN. COL car?

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Old 07-28-2014, 12:48 PM
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Not all cars were special orders, so I assumed Pontiac would build some heavily optioned cars to put in the dealers showroom to showcase the options. I would also assume they'd build some low optioned cars because that's all some could afford. Would you assume cars like these would be an ADV. ASSN. COL car?
The Optional Local Advertising Association Collections has nothing to do with the options on a car, or whether it was special ordered. Like BVZ stated, it's simply that the dealer was part of the advertising pool. I have a lot of invoices for standard GTO's, standard Firebird 350's, many with only a few options, that had the Optional Local Advertising Association Collection charge.

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This is just to help folks understand - who might not be aware.

Usually this is on the Invoice in 2 lines
OPT LOC_________ADV. ASSN. COL

It all goes together
Optional Local Advertising Association Collections

Really has nothing to do with the car itself.
When dealers elected to be a part of an advertising pool in their area with other PMD dealers - they were charged a set amount per vehicle sold.

Some areas were $5 per car , some $10 , some $15 - just depended on the area and amount/cost of advertising.

Whether it was a no-option Tempest, or loaded Bonne Vert, same fee per car.
Not all dealers were on these programs.
That is the full and correct explanation for OPT LOC ADV ASSN COL
Its all about an advertising pool - being identified on TV , newspapers , magazines
I can't view pics on eBay - can you post that Invoice ?

To hit on what you're driving at a little , Dealers had to PAY for any car invoiced to them. Back in these days - PMD didn't build hard loads and require them to buy one for display. Dealers selected their own builds / inventory - or ordered pre-builds from Zone Stock Inventory. Zone Inventory cars were usually lower to moderate option content.

What you are thinking of perhaps - are PMD Brass hat cars, and PMD Display/Marketing/Advertising cars.
There is a different method all together to identify these on their Invoices and Build Sheets.

Those particular cars - when sold to/through a dealer - would be exempt from the Advertising Collections - due to them being "lightly used" cars.

Your guesswork is understandable, but incorrect.
Don't let that deter you from keeping this thread alive with more neat finds.
You weed out some pretty desirable and interesting cars / projects.

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Old 07-29-2014, 07:35 PM
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The Optional Local Advertising Association Collections has nothing to do with the options on a car, or whether it was special ordered. Like BVZ stated, it's simply that the dealer was part of the advertising pool. I have a lot of invoices for standard GTO's, standard Firebird 350's, many with only a few options, that had the Optional Local Advertising Association Collection charge.
What did the dealer get out of being part of the advertising pool?

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This one is going to get some responses and new threads goin':

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Fire...US_Cars_Trucks

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Old 07-31-2014, 03:22 PM
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Oh good grief Charlie Brown!!

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Old 07-31-2014, 06:14 PM
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This car deserves its own thread.

It sure does have some super rare cheesy seats.

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Old 07-31-2014, 06:55 PM
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This car deserves its own thread.

It sure does have some super rare cheesy seats.
It has it's own thread. This clown has been trying to sell this plain-Jane car for some time now as a prototype. Note in the eBay ad there's a picture of four different build sheets that you can't read. Why four?

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I don't know if it's the Monroes, but he's definitely riding high on something.

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Old 07-31-2014, 09:40 PM
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This is a real 69 350HO AC 4-speed posi convertible:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/331276757817...TQ:MOTORS:1123

I pinged the guy and he sent me the PHS docs. He said the motor was rebuilt and has $15K in it. I have two of these so I won't even ask my wife if I can buy it. At $7K it's an absolute steal. Not sure of the colors. The PHS docs he sent me were low resolution and I can't tell, but it has an MSRP of $4316.

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Old 07-31-2014, 10:41 PM
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ETA It's a Midnight green car with a white INT and White top.

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This is a real 69 350HO AC 4-speed posi convertible:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/331276757817...TQ:MOTORS:1123

I pinged the guy and he sent me the PHS docs. He said the motor was rebuilt and has $15K in it. I have two of these so I won't even ask my wife if I can buy it. At $7K it's an absolute steal. Not sure of the colors. The PHS docs he sent me were low resolution and I can't tell, but it has an MSRP of $4316.
This car sold. Did one of you buy it?

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Old 08-06-2014, 11:43 PM
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This 69 looks like a good deal with no reserve.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Fire...US_Cars_Trucks

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Old 08-21-2014, 08:13 PM
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Here's a 69 Firebird no reserve auction. A black/black car with a stick. My guess is $13K.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Fire...US_Cars_Trucks

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This is interesting... a supposed 69 350HO with a no reserve $1000 bid. The parts alone are worth three times that.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Fire...US_Cars_Trucks

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The parts alone are worth three times that.
How much will it cost you to collect them all up and get them where you need them?

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