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Old 09-18-2019, 08:48 AM
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Need your opinion regarding the quarter louvers. I have had basically 95% if the metal replaced over the last three years. The car is looking good and almost done at the body shop. Since all the sheet metal is new, I really do not want to start drilling holes in the car. I have to drill holes in the new trunk for the aftermarket, carbon fiber rear spoiler, so there is 8 new holes already. I am not installing any of the badges so no extra holes there.

I have found original quarter louvers, but do I really want to drill 24 more holes in new quarters.... I do not plan on driving in bad weather, but I know it will happen.

My thought was grinding off the rear posts, getting an industrial strength adhesive and install them that way.

Is this a bad idea...

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Old 09-18-2019, 09:07 AM
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Its what makes it a firebird but if you are going for a shaved look go all the way. It might look wierd with nothing there though. I think tape would work. Works for new cars.

I put silicone caulk all over the studs and sealed the inside before putting the nut on. It takes a really soft touch to get them tight but not strip them.

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Old 09-18-2019, 09:52 AM
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The body shop that did my car neglected to put the quarter louvers on before they mounted the fenders after paint. As a result I double-sided taped them in place. They've been like that without issue since 2013.

The holes however were in my fenders as they were produced. So I didn't have that issue there. If memory serves me there are 4 holes per louver.

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Old 09-18-2019, 10:14 AM
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2 holes per. He's probably going to cut the posts off though.

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Old 09-18-2019, 10:30 AM
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I did the drill and silicone install as well. Did three '68's that way. Was indeed nervous about drilling the two holes per louver, but used a small bit first, worked my way to larger for straightness and fit. By the third car it was a piece of cake.

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Old 09-18-2019, 10:59 AM
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Thanks guys.

I guess my real worry is water infiltration then rust starting.

If I seal the outside and inside, maybe that will be enough. Like I said, I do not intend on driving if I know bad weather is possible. It will definitely be garaged in the winter after the first snow fall and road salting.

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If that's your worry, you could cure that by adding a seam seal product around the posts prior to install. That would seal it up.

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Old 09-18-2019, 11:38 AM
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Not putting the quarter trim on just makes it look more like a Camaro.

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Old 09-18-2019, 12:39 PM
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So they don't put the holes in the 1/4s on the replacement 1/4s?

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I have replacement 1/4's and the holes were pre-drilled.

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Old 09-18-2019, 01:53 PM
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I have replacement 1/4's and the holes were pre-drilled.
Skins, or full quarters? I believe the full quarters do not come pre-drilled.

Or at least the five or six pairs I bought over the years didn't.

Skins do com pre-drilled from what I recall.


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My studs on my louvers were broken, so I used double-stick foam tape. Did that 25 years ago. Still there.

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Old 09-19-2019, 08:26 AM
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It is hard to see, but the full AMD quarters, fenders and 400 hood did not come with the holes pre-drilled . I don't mind the fenders and hood since I am not installing the badges, but the quarter louvers I need the holes drilled.

I like the seam sealer idea.

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Old 09-30-2019, 08:30 AM
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So the louvers are installed, decided to drill the holes.

Put a pic of the spoiler as well.

32 holes in new sheet metal.....
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when you said carbon fiber spoiler i did not think i was going to like it, but i do. where did you get it?

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Old 09-30-2019, 01:18 PM
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It is a Kindig It flat out spoiler. I wanted a spoiler, but not a Camaro spoiler, so this was a good choice. I had to sell my left testicle through..... It will be painted black when the car goes to the paint shop.


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when you said carbon fiber spoiler i did not think i was going to like it, but i do. where did you get it?

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