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Unrestored 1970 T/A from BaT visits the Roadster Shop
I’m probably old news but I wanted to share this because it’s pretty neat.
Sold back in 2019 https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...bird-trans-am/ Ends up here at the Roadster Shop https://roadstershop.com/galleries/1...#&gid=1&pid=53 Check out the new chassis! I’d love to hear thoughts on it. I’m really impressed. Anyone know who owns this car? Would love to hear feedback on how it handles. Would also love to know whether you think it helps or hurts the value on a pretty original T/A? Last edited by Goated66; 03-02-2022 at 11:49 AM. |
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it's pretty cool.
Hopefully they did this on this otherwise unrestored/original car, to get all the mocking up of attaching locations banged out. This would be cool for a hot rod based on an early F-car. As cool as it is in concept, would (in my mind) really hurt the value of an original 1970 (four speed!) Trans Am.
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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I see they're also working on a 1966 Catalina. Unfortunately it went from a 421 to an LS engine.
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Why didn't they do this to a base Firebird?? Or a car that had been previously modded? Why an untouched original car?? Never understood why people pay up for a numbers matching original car so the can mod it out..
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Current Pontiacs - 1973 Formula SD455 - #'s auto orig paint 1972 Trans Am - 4 speed orig paint 1974 Formula 400 - Ram Air automatic 1966 2+2 convertible - 421 4bbl automatic 1967 Grand Prix - 4 speed orig paint 1967 GTO - 4 speed orig paint 35k orig miles |
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One of the first things I noticed was that the cad rendering had an LS motor.
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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They should've hacked up a base Catalina and added the 1/4 louvers...
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Current Pontiacs - 1973 Formula SD455 - #'s auto orig paint 1972 Trans Am - 4 speed orig paint 1974 Formula 400 - Ram Air automatic 1966 2+2 convertible - 421 4bbl automatic 1967 Grand Prix - 4 speed orig paint 1967 GTO - 4 speed orig paint 35k orig miles |
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That car was way to original and solid to do that to in my opinion
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Nice performance upgrades but I wouldn't have done it to that car. I didn't see it in the description but I'm assuming that it was numbers matching all original. That kind of stuff is cool but should be done on a base model or something that's already been modified. But, it ain't my car.
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70 TA, 467 cid IAII, Edelbrock D-port heads, 9.94:1, Butler HR 236/242 @ .050, 520/540 lift, 112 LSA, Q-jet, TKX (2.87 1st/.81 OD), 3.31 rear https://youtube.com/shorts/gG15nb4FWeo?feature=share Last edited by jhein; 03-02-2022 at 01:53 PM. |
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Very cool build!
I too hate to see largely original cars cut up. But appreciate the perspective of wanting the classic cars with modern technology. It would be better to seek out an already modded car. But sometimes it's where you're at and what you have to work with. |
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Cool looking build. Unfortunate it is on this car but appears bodywork was minimal and reversible. May be a nice way to get new tech undercar without hacking it up. Now, the LS thing.. Go all the way and swing in a new Ram Air V…
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I see this as being 100% reverseable so far.
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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The only body work I saw was a repair of the dent below the fender vent on the right side.
Everything they've done so far may be reversible, but that's a whole lot of reversing to do. And that's if they preserve all the original parts. From the looks of it, I'd guess they're going full pro touring on that thing and it will end up with a LS motor, TKX (they already have the LS and TKX in their rendering), new interior, gauges, body mods, the whole 9 yards.
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70 TA, 467 cid IAII, Edelbrock D-port heads, 9.94:1, Butler HR 236/242 @ .050, 520/540 lift, 112 LSA, Q-jet, TKX (2.87 1st/.81 OD), 3.31 rear https://youtube.com/shorts/gG15nb4FWeo?feature=share |
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I was looking at these guys gallery of cars and they are the ones who did Joe Rogan's 69 Camaro. The stuff they do is amazing. Super high end. But nothing close to stock. Like I said, I think they're just getting started on that car and who knows what it will be when they're done. But, If it's anything like most of their builds, I don't see it ever going back to anything close to stock. However, I'd still want it.
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70 TA, 467 cid IAII, Edelbrock D-port heads, 9.94:1, Butler HR 236/242 @ .050, 520/540 lift, 112 LSA, Q-jet, TKX (2.87 1st/.81 OD), 3.31 rear https://youtube.com/shorts/gG15nb4FWeo?feature=share |
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I sure hope they don't.
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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That is what Esprit's are for..... You can almost take this one off the list of 70 TA's left in existence. Their car, their bucks.
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We ordered a chassis from them last year.Was to be here first couple weeks in Jan.They have now pushed us off until mid Mar,now mid April.Lot of money,not happy with their production dates.Tom
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I love hot rods and pro-touring cars as much as I like well restored cars. But there is a right "starting point" for each.
This is a car that should have been preserved or restored, IMO. A shame to see what's been done to it. Here's the BaT comments the seller of this car made in 2019: "Lots to tell about this incredible car so I’ll tell you what I can and I invite any and all questions along with an open invite for anyone to inspect the car here in Erie, PA. I bought it from the true original one owner. He bought new in Detroit after medical school, relocated to Southern California later that year. The car spent its entire remaining life in SoCal. Never been altered or modified in any way, true all matching number drivetrain. No rust…….Zero…….None………Rock solid car. Ultra rare as a 4-speed with Air Conditioning. Recently obtained PHS documentation supports the car 100%."
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keith k 70 Trans Am RA III / T400 / Lucerne Blue / Bright Blue 70 Trans Am RA III / M20 / Lucerne Blue / Sandalwood 70 Formula RA III / M21 / Lucerne Blue / Bright Blue |
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I went and looked at this car in Erie Pennsylvania when it was first listed and offered close to 40 on the car before the auction he wouldn’t take it , it was a very clean original car , it’s shot now
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Another way to look at it......." Your only a virgin once ! "
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This is how you start!
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