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Old 10-19-2020, 09:37 AM
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"The prices I've been getting behind the scenes for 614's and 722's is just ridiculous considering I only need cores, they'd be built specific anyway. I can't put 3 grand into a set of cores and start from there."

In 1988-9 I paid $1800 for bare new SR 614s.

Edelbrock dressed Pontiac head 36LBS, Iron D ports fully dressed 62lbs.

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I need a set to put on a 433 for Vintage racing. Have to switch to Iron and a dual plane intake to be legal in a new sanction. Going to need around 600 hp and 7000 rpm's to be competitive.
Anyone built anything similar?

1. 1969 #722 Trans Am heads, Ready to go w 0.550” lift roller cam comparable.
2. OEM “Winters” aluminum intake.
3. Round port OEM Cast iron Trans am F-body Exh manifolds.
Rare pieces in good ready to use .
$8K firm!!
I’m not actually all excited / interested in the departure 0f these rare components yet will On this one offering here.
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Old 10-21-2020, 07:30 PM
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Just build a Ram Air V. You'll hit 600hp and 7,000 rpm pretty easy. Seems like its damn near the same money at this point. Tom S has a set of RAV heads for sale now. Just need to find an intake

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Regarding the E85, question, wouldn’t the efficiency loss be a problem.for fuel cell capacity for hour long road racing?

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No TQ coming off the corner IMO with Vs.Tom

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Old 10-21-2020, 11:08 PM
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McCarty intake makes a good race intake and are cheap.Tom

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Old 10-21-2020, 11:10 PM
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Oh,it's a single plane.Stock not so cheap and impossible to find.Tom

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Old 10-22-2020, 02:45 PM
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I have A set of 614's that I think you may be interested in . They are mildly ported by Diamond Elkins a stock manifold will work .Complete with valves, springs and retainers.
If you are interested please feel free to text me at 646 408 3494. I'll send photos.

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Oh,it's a single plane.Stock not so cheap and impossible to find.Tom
Tom, now that they'll allow a 428 in a FGF you have no idea how bad I'd like to build a dual plane "428" V for road racing. Just gotta match those lotto numbers.
Basically my dream engine.

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Old 10-22-2020, 11:48 PM
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Unhappy We ALL wish we could buy RAIV heads for less than $3k

But, really, it AIN'T gonna happen. Not any more.

It's just reality - they're worth $3k if you actually need them.

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But, really, it AIN'T gonna happen. Not any more.

It's just reality - they're worth $3k if you actually need them.
Which is why I think there's a market for new Iron replacements. But the guys making them say they're isn't so there's only highly desirable, expensive originals.
I've given up looking for now and am pursuing a set of build D's. I can't spend 3K on west coast cores, pay shipping and hope, they'd need a certification from a shop that they're not butchered up or cracked, so far I haven't found anyone willing to do that. It's buyer beware. If I find some within driving distance I'll check them out.

I'll end with this though; so long as replacement parts like blocks and heads become unavailable or unaffordable, the classic Pontiac engine will keep getting replaced with chevy's or LS's. I have no issue using aftermarket parts, but not everything needs to be aluminum or race ready. I like our options but there's not enough of them. Most everything is race.

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Most everything is race.
But aren't you racing?

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I have said it before, a new RAIV head that flows like a E head, room to port, modern chamber that looked just like a stock head would be a big seller.
And make it in cast steel, easily welded so you could wide port them for the ultimate sleeper. Guys could make some money on the street with them too.
If you have to cast it in China to get it done, so be it. Not want I want but do not want to see Pontiac shrivel on the vine with the dreaded LS taking over in our cool old cars either.

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NO pontiac head is a "BIG" seller when looking at ROI!Tom

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Tom I was shocked Edelbrock came out with so many 348-409 parts looking at ROI a smaller market than Pontiacs!

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Skip!It Chevy!Everything works for them.Tom

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