[dr-doug]

dwentura@comcast.net

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by 'ol Pinion head

Fans & brackets & pulleys weren't on assembled engines from Pontiac engine plant for several reasons. The main reason being, the engines once shipped to final assembly plant hung on a hook for a while before scheduled to be fed into the lines & go in a car. That car might have been built w/o a/c, with a/c, with p/s, w standard steering (SS in the parts books, ie, manual steering). Once late '71 arrived, the 80 amp alt/ ps bracket set-ups were occasionally used, just another option that effected bracket/pulley "packaging".

Correct, OPH.

They were trying to minimize the proliferation of engines that would need to be staged line side in the final assembly plant.

K

[Keith Seymore]

Sent, Dr Doug and 69 RA GTO -

K

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by Judge273

What issue? I have a bunch around the 90's. Mine has the new 1991 Bonney in it....

Big thanks Lloyd!!

I'd have to check, Mike.

It was in the Legend way back, and Smokes somewhat recently (like the last year or so).

K

[Held for Ransom]

I'd like a copy too Keith. mpjjransom@yahoo.com Thanks.

[71 lemans sport 455]

Can I have a copy of that also.Email is whitton1971@optonline.net Thanks Chris

[OVERULD]

bjbenton@unitedpump.com

[Bet Winner]

Please send me one, Keith. mstaley2@triad.rr.com

This info makes sense since my engine is date coded Oct and Nov 1968 except for the carb which is Dec. 68 and the fan which is Jan 69 as I said.

This probably means that most engines will have earlier date codes for the block, heads, intake, distributor, water pump and exhaust manifolds and later dates for the carb and fan. There will be exceptions of course for a carb or fan that has sat for a while before being bolted to an engine, but this is good info. I just purchased a Nov. water pump so that should work!

Thanks

[johnta1]

I'd like it also:

johnta1@wallaceracing.com

I have the Smoke Signal articles somewhere in my boxed up magazines.

[6x400gmc]

Could I get a copy of those pdf's please? Thanks!

alco2350@gmail.com

Britt

[Keith Seymore]

Update:

Eric White's "Made in Pontiac" series currently being features at the Wild about Cars website:

http://wildaboutcarsonline.com/cgi-b...=9990401225894

[Keith Seymore]

Email[s] sent.

K

[GTO JOHN]

Great bit from part 1:
Eric is getting background info from Carl here.
Were you always into Pontiacs?
When I was a kid in high school I liked Dodges, because '62 Dodges were the Michigan state police cars. They were really starting to get a reputation. I don't remember being aware of any Pontiacs until I was 17 years old. A guy named Joe gave me a ride in his '63 421 Super Duty Catalina. It was the most God-awful thing I ever rode in in my life. We went north out of Clifford toward the powerplant, it was probably a quarter mile flat stretch, and we were well up over 100 miles an hour and stoppin' by the time we got down to the corner, which was a half mile. That thing had a tri-power on it, it was just screamin' and haulin' ass. It was a real car. I never thought about Dodges again after that.

[GTO JOHN]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

Update:

Eric White's "Made in Pontiac" series currently being features at the Wild about Cars website:

http://wildaboutcarsonline.com/cgi-b...=9990401225894

Excellent! Thanks for the heads up Keith.

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by OVERULD

bjbenton@unitedpump.com

Overuld - yours bounced back; I got an error message stating the file was too big.

I have attempted to resend in bite size chunks. As a result you will unfortunately be subjected to the email exchange between John V and myself on this topic, which you may disregard.



K

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by GTO JOHN

Great bit from part 1:
Eric is getting background info from Carl here.
Were you always into Pontiacs?
When I was a kid in high school I liked Dodges, because '62 Dodges were the Michigan state police cars. They were really starting to get a reputation. I don't remember being aware of any Pontiacs until I was 17 years old. A guy named Joe gave me a ride in his '63 421 Super Duty Catalina. It was the most God-awful thing I ever rode in in my life. We went north out of Clifford toward the powerplant, it was probably a quarter mile flat stretch, and we were well up over 100 miles an hour and stoppin' by the time we got down to the corner, which was a half mile. That thing had a tri-power on it, it was just screamin' and haulin' ass. It was a real car. I never thought about Dodges again after that.

Dad had a similar watershed moment when he was getting ready to leave Ford:

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

..."This was the summer when I was trying to decide which way to go. Ford said a car would be available and by now my car was 2 years old and becoming very dated. None of the promises they had made were kept.

"When the '63's came out Ford had lightweight cars but they just went to the big name people at the start of the year and again the same promise: '...wait until the middle of the year'. Chevrolets were very limited and went to 'name' drivers only and an off the floor 409 left a little to be desired. So if you wanted to have a competitive car for 1963 it came down to going to your local Dodge/Plymouth dealer or Pontiac was building and selling Super Duty's...

Not much of a choice according to him. The rest, as they say, is history...

K

[Held for Ransom]

E-mail received. Also saw it on the site. Thanks.

[bigborehunter]

Keith, my email....pa67smith@yahoo.com
Sorry I forgot.

[71 lemans sport 455]

I received my copy.Thanks again

[OVERULD]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

Overuld - yours bounced back; I got an error message stating the file was too big.

I have attempted to resend in bite size chunks. As a result you will unfortunately be subjected to the email exchange between John V and myself on this topic, which you may disregard.



K

I got them all, thanks Keith!

BJ