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Old 05-05-2022, 01:22 PM
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I have a pic if I can find it with 3 real 69T/As at a car show local.A RAIII 4 speed car and that car along with my RA V T/A.If I find it I will post it.Tom
Wasn't this car owned and built by a guy with the last name of Logan in California aboit twenty five years ago?

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Yes it was.Tom

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Old 05-05-2022, 03:43 PM
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Yes it was.Tom
Bruce Logan.... I remember driving this car. He also had a convertible TA clone with a later model FI engine in it.

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My question is does anyone believe this is real, as in what he seems to think it is?
He claimed they had it for a couple years, that is enough time to do research. It has a lot of wrong parts on it. He never mentioned PHS. If PHS came back blank, he would say that, as that would help his case. All he has after a couple years are assumptions. Would GM put Ram Air V on the hood, I don't think they would. Back when these cars were new, owners would change engines when the car was only a couple years old. And add the stripe on the spoiler. Seems like a Ram Air III car with a motor change early in its life. Of coarse I still would love to have it.

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Old 05-05-2022, 05:13 PM
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Bruce built and put the engine in!Tom

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Old 05-05-2022, 05:35 PM
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Original or not, I love it.

how much is it worth?

mis matched heads. grind the numbers off then, still coveted RAV heads. so its not the original engine obviously. who cares? super cool, super well done, still a huge upgrade. and it has the no-one-else-has RAV exhaust manifolds.


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It's a RA III car. He is trying to make something more out of than what it is...a cool car. It has mis-matched heads and a Chevy carburetor on it.

The car was in a couple of magazines from the mid-80's.

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I knew I saw that car before but wasn't until Bruce Logan was mentioned that I remembered it.
Think I still one of magazines in a stack.

Also think Parts Place Joe has or had Lance's 69 TA.

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Old 05-05-2022, 05:42 PM
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OK,its a real 69 T/A,that makes it valuable!It has a RA V engine in it with a very rare #1 Engineering V block!I would like to have the block alone!Carbs are available so that can be dealt with.If the original III engine had survived that would have been a plus.There are not many REAL 69 T/As running around with a real V in it!Tom

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OK,its a real 69 T/A,that makes it valuable!It has a RA V engine in it with a very rare #1 Engineering V block!I would like to have the block alone!Carbs are available so that can be dealt with.If the original III engine had survived that would have been a plus.There are not many REAL 69 T/As running around with a real V in it!Tom
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Old 05-06-2022, 11:44 AM
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Bruce Logan showed it at the Fast Lane Promotions Muscle Car Nationals at Famosa Drag Strip in 1988.

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Bruce Logan showed it at the Fast Lane Promotions Muscle Car Nationals at Famosa Drag Strip in 1988.
That is cool... Did he make a trip down the track?

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I like it can’t say I’d change a thing on it. Plenty of restored cars out there.

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Does anyone know what has become of Bruce?

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Bruce past away some years back.Tom

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No, he did not, but Trans Ams did rule the track.

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Bruce Logan was a friend of mine. He operated a business called Tach-tech in California and reproduced hood tachs for many years. He was a great guy. I flew out to visit him in 1999 as well as look at and purchase a 1969 Trans Am that had once been owned by Z&Z out there. It was a loaded 1 of 32 built with A/C car.
I met Bruce for the first time in person when he brought his 1969 Trans Am with the newly installed RAV engine to the GTOAA National in 1988 in Wichita, KS. It was displayed with the Purely PMD 1969 Judge with a RAV in it. A very cool display but both were recently completed around that time. I'll never forget seeing Rick and John with that beautiful Judge in tow on a U-haul tow dolly! Stopped at the same gas station on the way and the fenders on that goofy thing were about 3/4" away from the car. I gave them crap about that one!
Bruce had bought a bunch of this RAV stuff from a guy named Phil Bauman and then put this motor together which debuted in 1988 at that GTOAA show.
It was about 3 or 4 years after my 1999 visit that Bruce offered me the two cars as a package. The clone convertible 69 TA as well as the real RAIII 69 T/A with the RAV in it. The original RAIII motor was long gone. I could not swing it at the time. About two or three years later he sold them both to Joe at The Parts Place. I am pretty sure the he planted the 'Pontiac engineering' seed to the recent new owner.
Funny how these stories evolve. Knowing the 'Real' history of a car is crucial!
Unfortunately, Bruce passed in 2016 I believe? He was a true car guy for sure!
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Thereby s a V in one of those!
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WOW, Great thread just to read and see the pics!

Thanks for sharing the pics and history!!

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