[unruhjonny]

I am trying to get a clear application for a shifter stick I picked up this past April in Portland;

The stick is a flat bar type, chromed, and stamped with the "INDY" logo.

The part number stamped on the base is 0017

I cannot for the life of me find anything via google searches for this stick.

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I have another one that I recently got here, it's got better chrome, has the "HURST" logo (which probably explains the nicer chrome), and is stamped 0100.

I believe that this stick is a discontinued part for a Doug Nash five speed.

The reason why I mention this second (identified?) stick, is that the 'Indy' stick seems to be a dead ringer for the 'Hurst' stick - the bends appear to be the same.

Can anyone help me with:

1) identifying the correct application of this Indy stick #0017?

2) confirm that I have the Hurst stick #0100 correctly identified?

[Hikin Mike]

Not sure if this well help, but back in the day, I bought a Hurst "Indy-matic" automatic shifter for my Nova. Your Indy stick doesn't have the Hurst logo, which is odd.

[Stuart]

The Indy shifter was Hurst's entry level model, not as heavy duty as the Competition Plus. It appears both the shift levers you have were for the same application, although I don't know what that would be.

I remember once seeing a Hurst application chart that showed all the different shapes of shift levers they offered, there must be a copy of it somewhere out there on line.

[23337 YT]

Looks like you are correct about the Hurst 0100 stick belonging to the Doug Nash / Richmond. The information comes from the shifterdoc.com website, under Hurst Shifter Installation Instructions downloads.

[unruhjonny]

thank you for sharing this!!

[Stuart]

While it's included on that parts list for the Doug Nash setup, I suspect the shift lever isn't necessarily limited to that one application - the mounting bolt holes at the base of the lever look like any other Hurst aftermarket shifter, and the shape of the lever has more to do with what car (or cars) it will fit.

[433lemans]

Those shifters are the same shape/configuration as the Hurst 7436 lever used on shifter assy. 391 7438 for 69 Camaro/Firebird w or w/o console, and surprisingly for Hurst Master Shifter assy. 366 7954 used for 68-72 Chevelle 3-speed w/o console, according to my old books and references.
Also concur with the 0100 5 speed application.

[John V.]

The Hurst stamped 5380100 flat stick was superseded by 5387436.

You stated the INDY stick is stamped 0017, But the pic looks like it may be stamped 1700?

Double check please.

I'm not positive but I believe the very early INDY sticks might not have had the "H" Hurst logo stamping. Don't know the history but I'll guess that the shifter it was part of may have been a "universal" 4 spd floor shifter conversion kit. And it happens to have the same configuration as the 5380100 stick.

I have no idea if the 5380100 stick was used for a Hurst shifter designed for the Nash 5 spd but wouldn't be surprised if this flat stick was used in other applications besides the '69 Camaro/Firebird application.

Perhaps somebody has an older Hurst catalog that will show an earlier shifter p/n for the '69 Camaro/Firebird application that has been superseded by the 3917438 shifter p/n.

The earlier p/n presumably included the 5380100 flat stick rather than the superseding 5387436 flat stick.

[unruhjonny]

Thank you to anyone trying to look into this for me, I sincerely appreciate it.

Here are some fresh pictures of the "unknown" Indy stick.



/\ /\ I realize that the number is not readable in this image, but I am attaching it so that you can see it's the same one in the next (zoomed in) picture.

[John V.]

The earliest reference that I could find for the Indy Shifter was circa 1974. At that time, it looks like Hurst did not include the "H" Hurst stamp on the stick. It was no secret that Hurst produced it though, see this brochure on eBay:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/19420941749...SABEgLdvvD_BwE

I couldn't determine when the Indy stick got the added "H" stamp.

From what I can tell, the 2 holes at the bottom of the stick indicate a 4 spd application. The bottom of other Indy sticks (3 spd, auto, VW) all seem to have had a different design at the bottom of the stick.

The common 4 spd Indy stick is still produced, 0077, and is a straight stick. And seems to have been the only design offered for 4 spd conversions for the last many years.

But as you can see from the linked catalog, Hurst offered several 4 spd conversion kits in 1974 so entirely possible that in those early days, a variety of stick configurations were offered.

Trying to find the kit or kits that included the 0017 stick won't be easy.

Since it seems to be a dimensional match to the 0100 Hurst stamped stick that was used for the '69 Camaro/Firebird application, it might be a good guess that the 0017 Indy stamped stick would have been included with the 503 0016 Indy kit for the '67-'73 Camaro with Muncie 4 spd without console (and likely the Firebird too though the eBay listing pic seems to have cut off the Pontiac applications).

[John V.]

Starting as early as the '78 Hurst catalog, the following description was added for the Indy Four Speed conversion kit:

Hurst/Indy competition 4-speed kits are designed to be used on numerous transmissions and will operate in a wide variety of cars. Applications are determined by transmissions and by virtue of an exclusive mounting design. Hurst/Indy 4-speeds will fit virtually all popular passenger car floor pans. It should be noted however, that the high mounting location of these kits more than often eliminates their use with factory consoles. Trim modification to floor pans is often necessary but easily covered with Hurst boot 114-7494 to provide a professional appearance.

Below this verbiage they included an illustration with the caption "TYPICAL INSTALLATION". The 0077 style straight stick is illustrated. I have no idea if all the kits included the same stick however.

Only 4 kits are offered:

503 0030 is listed for all GM with early Muncie w/ 9 bolt side cover, early T-10 , '69 up Muncie w/ 7 bolt side cover, and '74 up T-10, as well as the after market Super T-10.

503 0032 which covered '66 up small Chrysler cars (Demon, Duster, etc.).

503 0031 which covered '62 up Ford.

503 0033 which covered the Saginaw in GM cars.

Unfortunately the kits are not further illustrated to see if different sticks were included. My guess is no, only the mounting parts differed according to the trans type and the straight stick was in use for all 4 kits at that time which greatly reduced the no. of kit p/ns offered versus the '74 catalog listings. But that is just a guess on my part.

I wonder if Pete Serio or Dennis Kirban would be able to offer further help. I believe they both have access to more extensive Hurst paraphernalia. Might PM them.