[Skip Fix]

Mainly a Texas thing but spreading. It used to be they were out on highways but they finally figured having them near town they could sell more "stuff" to those same folks. Every kind of jerky you ever wanted fresh backed good, BBQ etc etc. Even deer corn!

https://buc-ees.com/

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by Formulajones

Buccee's is a midwest thing right? We don't have any of those in Arizona.

Nope.

They are located closer to you than you think...

All of their locations are inTexas, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina and Tennessee

The Midwest - otherwise known as flyover country is:

[grandam1979]

Originally Posted by Formulajones

Buccee's is a midwest thing right? We don't have any of those in Arizona.

They built one new station up here in Prescott about 3 years ago, a Circle K, that has ethanol free gas but it's only 87 octane so it's not even worth using for me. That's the only station I've ever seen any ethanol free gas. They've built other new stations since, some of them Circle K's, and they don't carry any ethanol free fuel. Makes me think the first one 3 years ago was a test run. I guess they aren't selling enough of it so they haven't bothered with it at the newest stations anymore. Funny to me since I've considered Arizona a classic car mecca, yet there just doesn't seem to be a big push for any ethanol free gas around here, no one cares.

Looks like at least 36 stations in Arizona with pure gas. https://www.pure-gas.org/

[Formulajones]

Originally Posted by grandam1979

Looks like at least 36 stations in Arizona with pure gas. https://www.pure-gas.org/

Thanks for the link, unfortunately almost all of them aren't anywhere remotely close to civilization and pretty much useless to those of us living in the bigger cities. Plus as I mentioned the large percentage of them are only 87 octane and that's just not worth it to me, some of the others are just 110 octane race gas at $10 a gallon so that's really not an option either and shouldn't even be put in the same category to be honest. Far as I'm concerned Arizona doesn't carry non ethanol worth using, they need to step up their game if they want to sell it to classic car owners.

Now if they had 93 non ethanol and made it available at stations I didn't have to drive 2 hours out in the mountains to a remote village to get to, I'd be on board. But since that will never happen I find it best to make the car usable on the 91/10% cat pee we have.

Just an example on that list, Phoenix is the biggest city in AZ, over 4 million people live there including the surrounding suburbs (I call it) yet they don't have ethanol free pump gas listed. What is on that list is the race gas stuff that I know is available down there at only a select couple of places if ya want to pay $10 a gallon, shouldn't even be on the list to be honest. On top of that some of those places aren't even gas stations, they are just shops that sell it in 5 gallon cans LOL yeah that's not convenient and again shouldn't really be included on a national list. Frankly the list of ethanol free gas is a bit skewed and not really truthful, least not for Arizona anyway. What we really need is a list of actual stations that pump gas, not race gas, that have ethanol free fuel. That would cut out the fat so to speak, and that list for Arizona would shrink dramatically to a sparse few .

[Formulajones]

Originally Posted by Skip Fix

Mainly a Texas thing but spreading. It used to be they were out on highways but they finally figured having them near town they could sell more "stuff" to those same folks. Every kind of jerky you ever wanted fresh backed good, BBQ etc etc. Even deer corn!

https://buc-ees.com/

Thanks for the link. It appears to be a Southern thing then more than a Midwest thing according to the locations listed. Although Texas seems to have the most. That's as far West as they go so it appears.

Sounds like a cool place. Deer corn?? My son would be all over the jerky lol

[JLMounce]

Originally Posted by Formulajones

Thanks for the link. It appears to be a Southern thing then more than a Midwest thing according to the locations listed. Although Texas seems to have the most. That's as far West as they go so it appears.

Sounds like a cool place. Deer corn?? My son would be all over the jerky lol

They are moving westward. There's a Buccee's opening up sometime Q1 next year, here in Norther Colorado. The place is massive. Something like 120 pumps and 70000 sq ft of retail space.

[Sirrotica]

Bucee's is building a new store just outside of Dayton OH, so they are moving further north from Texas.

Sheetz, (based out of Altoona PA), also has 90+ E-0 fuel at their newer stores. We had 2 of them open 10-15 miles from my house this summer, very nice to be able to get non ethanol fuel. The downside is it's more expensive than 93 10-E fuel currently. BTW, their MTO, Made To Order, food menu is some of the best gas station food I've ever tasted, over 400 items on the menu.........

I started using it in my 05 GTO, and the fuel mileage picked up roughly 2.5 MPG with it over 93 10-E fuel. I can't detect any difference in performance using it, seems to run the same. Before Sheetz opened those stores, we had zero places to buy 0-E fuel in my area.

I'm thinking, from my fuel tanker experience, that the 90+ is the base fuel for the 93 E-10 fuel before the ethanol is blended with it, raising it's octane from 90, to 93.

Instead of buying canned 0-E fuel for my small engine mowers, and saws at $18 + a gallon, I can have it for under $4 currently, and blend my own 2 cycle fuel for saw, and trimmer. Nice to not have to worry about yellow jelly in my carb engined equipment any longer. And even after sitting over the winter, the fuel doesn't degrade so much that the engine won't even start/run on it.

[Formulajones]

Originally Posted by JLMounce

They are moving westward. There's a Buccee's opening up sometime Q1 next year, here in Norther Colorado. The place is massive. Something like 120 pumps and 70000 sq ft of retail space.

Damn that's massive!!


Anyone have a price comparison, maybe a photo of the pumps, that show the price between 10% ethanol fuel vs non ethanol? Something in the 90+ octane range perhaps? I'd be curious if the price difference is worth even worrying about, since we currently pay between $4.70 and $5 a gallon for 91 with 10% ethanol depending on where you go, and the only station that sells ethanol free (only one) in Prescott only comes in 87 so I don't even consider it as usable.

If the difference was only another 20-30 cents I wouldn't worry about it. If you're talking 2-3 dollars then I'd have to pass.

[grandam1979]

The 90 I get here is about the same price as the 92 they offer so it’s not cheap I want to say $4.05 the other day.

[hgiv]

I buy ethanol free 90 in NY for something crazy like $4.75/gal. It's available in many places there. I run it in the bird, boat and small engines. None of those thigs are going through a ton of gas because I don't drive the bird that much, so it isn't terrible and worth it. We can get 93 here in MA with 10% ethanol and it is roughly the same cost but the 90/91 is about 50 cents less per gallon than the ethanol free. Different state so its a little bit apples to oranges.

I don't really notice any performance improvement and I don't drive enough miles to care about gas mileage. 69 bird is low compression so... HOWEVER I notice a significant change in the 4 cycle outboard. With ethanol gas I needed to do a full carb clean every summer, and I drive the boat 3x a week as I live on a lake. Since I started using ethanol free I have been good for 2 years! Now I will ONLY use ethanol free in all my small engines.