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Old 03-31-2004, 10:49 AM
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I didn’t want to post this until I had it in my possession, but I am just too excited to keep it under my hat any longer. I came across a great deal on a Pontiac engine. I am buying it complete from carb to flex plate. The only thing I need to do is to change the cam as the one in it is way too small. The cam is a 260-degree solid roller in a 482” engine. I am only getting it now because it was a deal. The only experience it has seen is 4 partial runs and one full pass. I won’t be able to consider putting it in until the end of this race season, unless I put myself out of the running in the PDD series. I plan on picking it up on April 10th.

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I didn’t want to post this until I had it in my possession, but I am just too excited to keep it under my hat any longer. I came across a great deal on a Pontiac engine. I am buying it complete from carb to flex plate. The only thing I need to do is to change the cam as the one in it is way too small. The cam is a 260-degree solid roller in a 482” engine. I am only getting it now because it was a deal. The only experience it has seen is 4 partial runs and one full pass. I won’t be able to consider putting it in until the end of this race season, unless I put myself out of the running in the PDD series. I plan on picking it up on April 10th.

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Old 03-31-2004, 10:51 AM
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Sounds like a sweet deal OMT. Congrats! Hope it works out for ya.
PS- You trying for th 9's now? (grin)

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OldmanGoat - There is no question that the engine is capable of putting my car in the 9's. The question is whether I want to go through the hassle of chassis cert and renewing my license. To begin with I will probably tune it down to run ten-oh's. My first additional task will be finding the right combination (without too many $$$) to change my gear ratio to something in the mid 3's. My 4.56's are already too low for my 400.

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omt- what converter, trans and tire are you running? i can't imagine why you'd want a 3.xx gear in a race car unless you have tire height limitations.

if this is a badass engine (which it sounds like it might be), then twist the pi** out of it and hang on for the ride.

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I am limited to a 29" tall tire. I am already going across the line at 7000 RPM with my 400 at about 123 mph. I expect to pick up 15-20 mph. Since I need to kill power anyway, I would like to gear it to go across the line at around 6200.

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Current trans is a T-400, 4200 stall converter, 29x11 slicks.

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Way to go Jim.Good luck. As you know I am still playing to old tire/gear/RPM game. It's a whole new season and time to play.

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alrite on ur deal! if u lived near here we would have those gears changed and motor swapped by the weekend. good luck.

u can always slow it down with part throttle runs.

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hey Jim, is this engine is the T.Mallory eng. or the one out of that roadster for sale ???now your gonna scare some people of in A bracket

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Harry - It is the one out of the roadster.

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OMT:

Congrats on the new engine!

9's - whoooooeeeee!

Keep us informed on how everything goes!

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I know it is very presumptuous, but here is my logic. The engine was in a 2400-pound roadster. It only made one full pass, so obviously things weren’t optimized. Also the engine was never on a dyno. On that one run it ran 8.53 at 153 with a 1.25 sixty-foot time. I will be installing a larger cam, and I will probably have it dyno’d so I know the details. That will be a while, but I will post the results when it is done.

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Sounds great, Jim. We can talk about it some more over a few beers at Norwalk.

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Congrats Jim, it sounds great.

If you don't mind, I'd like to join in on the conversation at Norwalk.

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Jim, IA block???

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No, it is a factory 455 block with E-heads. Dimensions are 4.25x4.25.

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Jim,

Great news, faster is always better. I'll give you $500 for that surplus slow 400 that you are taking out.

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Wheelspin - You must be friends with Ron. You guys have a similar sales pitch.

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Jim, I don't think that engine will fit in your car. I know of a little orange heap that it might slide into.

Congrats on the new power plant.

Hope to see you this summer.

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