Members Helping Members help Buying a non Pontiac item, transportation help, Handy-man advice, directions, vacation ideas, places to dine, ebay and generally anything you think might help other members.

          
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-29-2009, 10:27 AM
67drake's Avatar
67drake 67drake is online now
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Muscoda WI
Posts: 2,879
Default manual tire changers,anybody use/own one

I'm looking at buying a tire changer,something like this maybe.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-P...1%7C240%3A1318
After spending $$ to have a shop do them all the time,I figure it would pay for itself the first time I use it. (I own 6 cars/trucks). Problem is I don't know anybody that has one of these,so are these junk? Just need something to break the bead and hold the rim still so I can get the tire off the rim.
Any input would be great. Thanks!

__________________

71' GTO -original 400/4-speed/3.23 posi
13.95 @ 102.1 on street tires @ 4055lbs.

‘63 LeMans- ‘69 400 w/ original transaxle. 2.69 gears.
  #2  
Old 03-29-2009, 11:16 AM
Ron Genovese's Avatar
Ron Genovese Ron Genovese is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New York
Posts: 828
Default

I have one that I change over my slicks each season with. They work good for breaking the bead, but pretty tough to change a tire. It does work though. I also bought a bubble balancer through Harbor Freight that works well. For me I was having trouble finding tire places who you can trust to remove the 32 tire screws, change the tires, re-install the tire screws(if they didn't loose any) then balance the wheels.

__________________
66 GTO
  #3  
Old 03-29-2009, 11:50 AM
67drake's Avatar
67drake 67drake is online now
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Muscoda WI
Posts: 2,879
Default

Thanks Ron.
I know what you mean about who to trust. After having a few rims bent by incompetent shops,I'd prefer to do it myself anyway. Plus I'm a cheap arse. I just spent $48 the other day to have a set of Craigslist tires put on the wifes car and ditto on my car 2 months ago,I figure I'll look into a manual one for myself. Old Coates machines have not been selling for less than $400 around here,so it looks like my only option right now.
Thanks for the info.

__________________

71' GTO -original 400/4-speed/3.23 posi
13.95 @ 102.1 on street tires @ 4055lbs.

‘63 LeMans- ‘69 400 w/ original transaxle. 2.69 gears.
  #4  
Old 03-29-2009, 12:44 PM
uforacing's Avatar
uforacing uforacing is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: colorado springs
Posts: 522
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 67drake View Post
I'm looking at buying a tire changer,something like this maybe.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-P...1%7C240%3A1318
After spending $$ to have a shop do them all the time,I figure it would pay for itself the first time I use it. (I own 6 cars/trucks). Problem is I don't know anybody that has one of these,so are these junk? Just need something to break the bead and hold the rim still so I can get the tire off the rim.
Any input would be great. Thanks!
That unit is only $49 normal price at Harbor Freight. Might save you a few $$. There is one in West Allis. The E-bay one = $80 after shipping.

__________________
72 GTO 400-M20 Lucy Blue
86 2+2 Black
09 G8 GT red

08 Torrent GXP (wife's)
09 G8 ST (UTE) black

A pissed off fat house chimp on dope would be a lot more deadly.
  #5  
Old 03-29-2009, 01:01 PM
Keith Seymore's Avatar
Keith Seymore Keith Seymore is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Motor City
Posts: 8,195
Default

Good topic; thanks for posting, Drake.

For me, it's not only the quantity of tires (6 cars plus the trailer) but its the "time" aspect: I have to run the tire up to the Goodyear store, drop it off and then pick it up at lunchtime the next day. This would allow me to do it during the evening at my convenience.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Genovese View Post
For me I was having trouble finding tire places who you can trust to remove the 32 tire screws, change the tires, re-install the tire screws(if they didn't loose any) then balance the wheels.
Plus - getting the "baby powder" on the tubes just right!


__________________
'63 LeMans Convertible
'63 Grand Prix
'65 GTO - original, unrestored, Dad was original owner, 5000 original mile Royal Pontiac factory racer
'74 Chevelle - original owner, 9.85 @ 136 mph besthttp://www.superchevy.com/features/s...hevy-chevelle/
My Pontiac Story: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=560524
"Intro from an old Assembly Plant Guy":http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342926
  #6  
Old 03-29-2009, 01:11 PM
performerrpm's Avatar
performerrpm performerrpm is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: oklahoma
Posts: 1,998
Send a message via AIM to performerrpm
Default

you fellas are pretty hardcore!!! i usually do most all the grunt work myself, but never the tire aspect

  #7  
Old 03-29-2009, 05:40 PM
Lightfoot's Avatar
Lightfoot Lightfoot is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: The Banana Republic
Posts: 932
Default

Too bad there wasn't a demonstration video available that showed someone with average muscle using it. I'd consider getting one myself, if I knew it didn't take alot of arm strength to use.

  #8  
Old 03-30-2009, 02:34 AM
67drake's Avatar
67drake 67drake is online now
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Muscoda WI
Posts: 2,879
Default

UFO,yes,I saw the one harbor freight has for sale,that is where I would go,I just happened to be on E-bay when I posted this,so I used that link. I think the HF one looks pretty much the same.
Performer,I'm not hardcore,just cheap! And like Keith mentioned,I could do this at my convenience. I've been slamming plugs in my own tires for years now. Seems like someone here is always picking up a nail or screw,but for a bigger tear or hole in the tread I like to use a patch,which means the tire has to come off the rim. This aspect alone would save me about $75 a year,no kidding! It seems I'm always messing with tires in some way. Thats why I posted above that if I could find an old working Coats machine (for cheap!),I'd snap it up.
Lightfoot,I agree,I would like to see someone remove an old tire that has been on a rim for years,and see how easy the bead breaks,and how easy a new tire goes on. Getting the bead to seat to the rim can be a trick,but I do always get them,helps to have 2 people!
Thanks for the input guys.

__________________

71' GTO -original 400/4-speed/3.23 posi
13.95 @ 102.1 on street tires @ 4055lbs.

‘63 LeMans- ‘69 400 w/ original transaxle. 2.69 gears.
  #9  
Old 04-04-2009, 03:44 PM
TAaddict's Avatar
TAaddict TAaddict is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 42
Default

I used to own a manual tire changer very similar to the one in the link mine was made by Coats and it worked really good. The bead breaker worked great but the dismount portion was a pain with low profile tires, was ok with standrad tires.

  #10  
Old 04-05-2009, 05:18 PM
784spdta's Avatar
784spdta 784spdta is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kansas
Posts: 163
Default

I've got one of the Harbor Freight tire changers, for what it costs I can't complain. You have to bolt it down to use it, but I've found using it really pretty easy, breaking the bead on an old tire can be a bit challenging sometimes, but mounting and dismounting is simple and quick. The bar that comes with it is pretty long so you can get alot of leverage on it. I'd say buy on, it'll pay for itself pretty quickly, I know mine has.

  #11  
Old 04-05-2009, 05:34 PM
carbking's Avatar
carbking carbking is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Eldon, Missouri 65026
Posts: 3,630
Default

Look around at some of the older service stations (or one going out of business) for an older Coates manual changer. You won't be sorry. We have been using one for about 40 years (steel wheels, mags, radials, slicks, whatever).

Jon.

__________________
"Good carburetion is fuelish hot air".

"The most expensive carburetor is the wrong one given to you by your neighbor".

If you truly believe that "one size fits all" try walking a mile in your spouse's shoes!

Owner of The Carburetor Shop, LLC (of Missouri).

Current caretaker of the remains of Stromberg Caburetor, and custodian of the existing Carter and Kingston carburetor drawings.
  #12  
Old 04-05-2009, 07:24 PM
67drake's Avatar
67drake 67drake is online now
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Muscoda WI
Posts: 2,879
Default

Yeah,about 3 days after I started this thread I did find an old Coats 10/10 on Craigslist for $200,but was gone by the time I called. So I still am looking.If I don't find one the manual kind is what I'll buy.

__________________

71' GTO -original 400/4-speed/3.23 posi
13.95 @ 102.1 on street tires @ 4055lbs.

‘63 LeMans- ‘69 400 w/ original transaxle. 2.69 gears.
  #13  
Old 04-10-2009, 08:43 PM
Simple Man's Avatar
Simple Man Simple Man is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: behind Selldom-Wynn racing, Northern Indiana
Posts: 839
Default

I have the Harbor Freight manual tire mounter. It's not bad to use. Mounting it SECURELY to the floor is imperative. Other than that, it's pretty easy to mount and dismount tires.
Use plenty of dish soap on the beads for lubricant.

__________________
be a simple...kinda man.
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:51 PM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017