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Old 03-14-2012, 05:28 AM
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Default Exactly what makes a Chevy a Chevy in NASCAR
I'm sure that Sirottica and some others can answer this question. I know that the hood and trunk have to semi-conform to the production car that they represent but what else has any resemblance to the production car? Is there anything in steering/front end geometry or anything else? Posiible the bore and stroke or maybe the head design?

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Before all the pissing matches start from the NASCAR haters...........

Yes..... we know.... we know..... its NOT the old NASCAR.....

What makes the Chevy a Chevy in NASCAR...... ?

Simple...... the check GM writes to sponsor the team and the bowtie sticker on the body.....

They are not stock cars anymore...... they are NASCAR race cars, and I am OK with that.

I love NASCAR..... I watch it.... I go to the races..... I enjoy the competition.

Now, back to the haters..........

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Some of the major engine parts is about it, I do not believe they use any original body panels any more.

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Some of the major engine parts is about it, I do not believe they use any original body panels any more.
Which is about the same for all brands that are racing.

I believe everyone uses the ford 9" rear end design however.

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Which is about the same for all brands that are racing.

I believe everyone uses the ford 9" rear end design however.
I believe they do, and used to use a common Ford floor pan as well - but not anymore.

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Boss,

The hood skins and roof skins must have a OEM part number, but try to purchase them over the counter.

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Some of the major engine parts is about it, I do not believe they use any original body panels any more.
I do not follow Nascar, but I have a hard time believing that the any part of the engines of these purposefully built, high tech race cars share anything with a homogenized product you can find down at your neighborhood dealership.

Just the metallurgy aspect alone, would dictate to me that the left turn only cars have nothing in common with their street brethren.

If I am incorrect, please enlighten me. Not trying to start a pissing contest, I'm really not.

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The hood skins and roof skins must have a OEM part number, but try to purchase them over the counter.
Do they still? They used to but I think that went away with the common template.

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Do they still? They used to but I think that went away with the common template.
Exactly. When the COT came on board that changed and everything is hand formed. I think maybe the nose is supplied by the car companies.

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also, the engines are all dedicated NASCAR engines. They aren't used in any capacity in production cars.

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Car of Tomorrow is a complete nascar design. No body panels from any make are represented only stickers and an engine design loosely based on the manufactures.

this is my understanding I may be incorrect.

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Boss,

I haven't seen a CURRENT rulebook so you could be right.

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also, the engines are all dedicated NASCAR engines. They aren't used in any capacity in production cars.
This is true, but a Chevy engine is a Chevy design, a Ford engine is a Ford design, etc....

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I'm way out of my swim lane here, but I believe all of the chassis are manufactured by a handful of dedicated suppliers (ie, Banjo Matthews, etc).

So - you have a common chassis, the engine type of choice, a common Jerico trans, a Ford 9" axle (hanging on a '69 GMC pickup control arm setup).

Slap some stickers on it and go racin -

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This is true, but a Chevy engine is a Chevy design, a Ford engine is a Ford design, etc....
Right but they're all designed for use in NASCAR vs modifying a production V8 for use in NASCAR.

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Right but they're all designed for use in NASCAR vs modifying a production V8 for use in NASCAR.
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Thank you to everyone for not turning this into a hater thread.....

I truly look forward to each weekend to watching it......

Its a great sport .... the competitors and the fans make it fun.....

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This is true, but a Chevy engine is a Chevy design, a Ford engine is a Ford design, etc....
same with Toyota? I believe in NHRA that just cannot be...but I dunno for sure. Ron

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NHRA drag racers use aftermarket engines. I have no idea what constitutes a Chevy Dodge or Toyota. I will bet my last dollar that TRD is not producing an 8000 hp top fuel dragster engine. I believe top fuelers run a Chrystler based Hemi

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back to the bodies on the COT. It was designed so Ford could no longer complain that chevy had an aero advantage over them or dodge or pontiac at the time and vice verse. chevy would complain when ford would have an advantage ect ect ect ect.....
So nascar said forget all of you we will design a car to be the same for everyone. that is what they did.


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