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Pipe Plug Removal....or?
I'm working on a short block I bought a few weeks ago and finally got around to cleaning the area where the distributor drops in and where the plug covers where I was going to pick up an oil pressure signal. The plug was full of crud and upon cleaning it out I find that somebody has beat me to ruining it. It's fairly rounded out.
Ideas? Forget it and take my signal off of the oil filter mount?
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frittering and wasting the hours in an off hand way.... 1969 GTO, 455ci, 230/236 Pontiac Dude's "Butcher Special" Comp hyd roller cam with Crower HIPPO solid roller lifters, Q-jet, Edelbrock P4B-QJ, Doug's headers, ported 6X-8 (97cc) heads, TKO600, 3.73 geared Eaton Tru-Trac 8.5", hydroboost, rear disc brakes......and my greatest mechanical feat....a new heater core. |
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put an old extension in and a couple tac welds and turn left
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________________________________________ 65 GTO owner since 84 original ca car |
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That plug is 5/16" I made my own tool for removal by cutting a 1" piece off of the shank of a chraftsman screwdriver & using a square drive or 12 point socket on it. Does not look like its messed up to bad. Should come right out.
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Keith Collier 61-63 Pontiac Tempest Tech advisor POCI.org |
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I have removed far far worse .... clean well with wire brush, let Kroil or PB'blaster soak for a day, heat the area around the plug with a torch, use square bit of your choice as suggested above.
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1969 GTO hard top ~ Std bore 400, '70-RA3 block, 670 heads, Bal. & Blue... M22, 12-bolt w/3:55s |
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So is there an "official" tool/socket set for the various square size plugs?
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs |
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Will Rivera '69 Firebird 400/461, 290+ E D-Ports, HR 230/236, 4l80E, 8.5 Rear, 3.55 gears '64 LeMans 400/461, #16 Heads, HR 230/236, TKO600, 9inch Rear, 3.89 gears '69 LeMans Vert, 350, #47 heads: Non-running project |
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I use an old beat up 3/8" extension that I ground down to be a taper fit in the 5/16" square hole. Pound it in good and tight with a hammer so it won't slip and round out the square hole. The plug will twist out using a lot of persuasion, use some heat to help you.
Never had a problem getting the plug out. |
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Got it out. I used an old 3/8" extension (Chinese?) I had. I ground it down carefully to fit the hole. Earlier today I sprayed a bit of PB Blaster on the plug and right before I took the plug out this evening I heated the area around the plug with a torch. Popped right out. Thanks for the ideas, I hated to just jump in and make the situation worse and somebody on here ALWAYS has the right method. Odd sized little plug. What is the cavity that that plug covers?
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frittering and wasting the hours in an off hand way.... 1969 GTO, 455ci, 230/236 Pontiac Dude's "Butcher Special" Comp hyd roller cam with Crower HIPPO solid roller lifters, Q-jet, Edelbrock P4B-QJ, Doug's headers, ported 6X-8 (97cc) heads, TKO600, 3.73 geared Eaton Tru-Trac 8.5", hydroboost, rear disc brakes......and my greatest mechanical feat....a new heater core. |
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I usually use a piece of 5/16 key way. Using an eight point socket and a impact driver, the kind you strike with a hammer. I never have a problem.
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1978 Black & Gold T/A [complete 70 Ram Air III (carb to pan) PQ and 12 bolt], fully loaded, deluxe, WS6, T-Top car - 1972 Formula 455HO Ram Air numbers matching Julep Green - 1971 T/A 455, 320 CFM Eheads, RP cam, Doug's headers, Fuel injection, TKX 5 Spd. 12 Bolt 3.73, 4 wheel disc. All A/C cars |
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There is no such thing as too much cam, just not enough engine. 1966 GTO - 11.31@119 (3478 lbs) in 1979 1967 Firebird - 9.73@138 (2940 lbs) in 1986 400 cu in / 295-298 cfm RAIV / Lunati Cam 278/283 - .704 lift/5.13 gears |
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The hole is a standard 3/8" NPT thread, and the new plug will have a standard hex that an allen wrench will fit.
I don't even mess with trying to save the plug. I drill the plug through with a 5/16" bit and then use a 4 sided easy-out that I tap solid into the square allowing it to go down into the drilled hole however far it wants to go. I've had some really stuck plugs where the block was cleaned and then left to the elements to rust solid. I use a 2' breaker bar with a towel wrapped around the socket and easy-out in case one or the other explodes. I've lost a couple Craftsman 12 point 1/2" sockets when they cracked down their length. If all else fails, the above will always work.
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Mick Batson 1967 original owner Tyro Blue/black top 4-speed HO GTO with all the original parts stored safely away -- 1965 2+2 survivor AC auto -- 1965 Catalina Safari Wagon in progress. |
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It's the vertical passage up to the driver's side lifter gallery (from the horizontal passage from the oil filter adaptor).
Rather than a replacement plug, you'll need a reducer from 3/8 NPT down to whatever fitting size will be on the end of your guage line (or a sensor for an electric guage).
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Anybody else on this planet campaign a M/T hemi Pontiac for eleven seasons? ... or has built a record breaking DOHC hemi four cylinder Pontiac? ... or has driven a couple laps of Nuerburgring with Tri-Power Pontiac power?(back in 1967) |
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I'm swapping what's on my 400 over to this one.
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frittering and wasting the hours in an off hand way.... 1969 GTO, 455ci, 230/236 Pontiac Dude's "Butcher Special" Comp hyd roller cam with Crower HIPPO solid roller lifters, Q-jet, Edelbrock P4B-QJ, Doug's headers, ported 6X-8 (97cc) heads, TKO600, 3.73 geared Eaton Tru-Trac 8.5", hydroboost, rear disc brakes......and my greatest mechanical feat....a new heater core. |
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Whoops...got treed..LOL
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ECM member. 2008 Outlaw Pontiac Drag Series Champion MANDRA Do it now fool! Life is short. 69 Grand Prix/3163lbs / IAII 535 w/ Tiger heads by Gaydosh....9.35@ 144 so far.. through mufflers. 1.26 60'. Going back to track with pump gas engine.... My 60 Ventura retired to street/strip duty.. |
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So what are they called to the tool guys? Males like would fit in that plug.
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs |
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This what I have (or had). I can't find it and it's driving me mad. |
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Thanks. There is a small one by the oil filter on the SBC in th Camaro project I wanrted to pull and add a gauge there-figured I'd break it off and have an oil leak ! Laos my IA freeze plugs are square, had to use a chisles end and a cresent wrench to pull one that had a pin hole in it.
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs |
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Had to remove all of them from an orig block. Couldn't even get the ground down tools to work for me. Asked my neighbor( GM mechanic) if he had one that would work. He says sure but they are all at work. I ended up drilling them all out and using a chiesel on them that rear hidden one was a bitch to get at. He brings me over one the next day so I guess I'm all set for next time. I think he got it from the snap-on truck.
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Robert 69 Firebird-462/Edel round ports/currently running the Holley Sniper/4sp/3.23posi/Deluxe Int/pwr st/vintage air/4wl disc( a work in progress-always ) http://youtu.be/eaWBd3M9MN4 |
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I take a 1/2" grade 8 bolt and grind in slightly larger than the plug. Drive it I'm with a hammer and use my impact to spin it out. The impact action seems to help break the plug loose. I've tried to use my breaker bar but seems to just round the plug out.
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