[cnc]

Well got around to Installing my rear shackle kit from Global west ......
I got the threaded rod and whatever needed to install the bushings

However ....I could install the frame bushing by hand they literally fell in.....
I can stick a screw driver in the hole the grease nipple threads into and rotate the bushing....

Those that have installed this kit as well ever seen this or heard .....

I sent an email off to Global West so waiting to hear back....
My kit is 108SH..........

[Geoff]

Maybe a roundabout message from On High that the factory rubber bushes were used in that location for a reason [ to absorb road shock ] and using rubber might be a better idea.......

[floffy]

Installed the kit 2 years ago on my 72 formula and drives perfect.
I had to push the bushing's in but my leaf springs were brand new also.
Daan

[cnc]

Leaf spring install was perfect used threaded rod ... nice and tight
The frame rails that's another story....if I take the shackles out I can push the bushing out with my hands ...not good....

Hopefully hear something Monday or tues....

[cnc]

Originally Posted by floffy

Installed the kit 2 years ago on my 72 formula and drives perfect.
I had to push the bushing's in but my leaf springs were brand new also.
Daan

How was the frame section install nice and tight like the springs....

[floffy]

Frame install was very tight, needed a threaded rod for those also.
Can you see any wear in the housing?
Are you sure you have the correct set ? I used the 103sh set for my 72 formula

[cnc]

Interesting glad yours worked out...
My drivers side I used threaded rod as well there was some resistance but I can still turn it ....

Your kit has all the bushings for the rear shackles and the the frt eye....
My kit 108sh is only the rear I already have a solid bushing in the frt ....that's what I thought maybe the kit is mixed up possibly...
As far as wear in the rear frame the bushing were/ only rubber they should wear not the frame eye.....

I was supposed to call Doug Thursday but I came home from work early (had a cold ) only to find out we had been broken into and robbed.....

Sent Doug an email to tell him the situation and tried calling yesterday but he was out of the office....gonna try Monday

If I get an opportunity this weekend I'll unbolt the shackles and video the bushings

Got a feeling they MAY have seen it before as he said to call as it's easier to talk then type it out....maybe I'm wrong but .....

[floffy]

Lmk if you hear something or have a solution.
Daan

[cnc]

Talked with Doug from Global West ...he said they had seen this before on occasion

He said to pin them with 1/8 roll pins on either side ....drill into the housing in the frame rail...it extends like 3/16 of an inch on either side of the frame rail approx ....drill far enough into the housing of the bushing just not through to the center....
So I'm gonna try it and see .....
Before I do this I'm gonna measure with a snap gauge the inside diameter of the bushing housing in the frame..and the diameter of the bushing send Doug an email and see what he says
He has also seen that were they are loose and rattle if they are like that (he asked if I drove the car and I had not) he said to measure the hole and they would turn some other bushings for me....now I'm not there yet but if I get there I'm ASSuming it's on there dime...
Keep u posted....

[Skip Fix]

Doug is usually great with customer service.

[cnc]

Well
I pulled the bushing from the pass side
It measured 1.5915 inch
The frame hole 1.5925

I've asked Doug to cut me 2 other bushings for the car....I'm really not liking the idea of pinning I would much rather have the tight press fit like it should be

[cnc]

Video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKnQZGMu098

[cnc]

Talked to Doug again he is making me 2bushings hope to have them in a couple weeks .....

I'll move onto to intake reinstall after I sent it out for some Port work....

[HWYSTR455]

I have CAT5 leafs and the del-a-lum bushings, and I had a heck of a time installing the frame ones. So much so that I damaged one, and had to order another set. I had to sand the frame inside, lube, used threaded rod, you name it, and it was still a hassle.

I still have the one new leftover, and went down and measured it while I was reading this thread. Mine is 1.597 in diameter. If you need it, let me know, will ship it to you for free. Has the extended grease fitting too.

Doug is great to deal with, and I will only use GW stuff if I can. People think that by going to solid bushings that ride becomes harsh, which is totally not true. The del-a-lum bushing allow the parts to move freely, without bind, and allow you to properly tune your suspension with shocks and springs. If you experience ride harshness after installing these, then it's due to your shocks, can almost 100% guarantee that.

.

[cnc]

Pm sent HWYSTR 455

[cnc]

Well last I heard from GW

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Doug <doug@globalwest.net>
Date: May 12, 2017 at 12:30 PM

Chris,They are scheduled in the machine shop. The machine shop is swamped but
they are coming up to be ran Monday or Tuesday at the latest. We will then
send them out for ano.Hope to have them back by Friday for shipping.
Doug

It's now June 1st haven't heard a word from him I've sent two emails off....kinda PISSED....

HWYSTR455 was generous enough to send me one bushing he had that was a spare for him....so worst case
I machine down that bushing that HWYSTR455 sent me , the one that's semi tight in the drivers side pull it and see how tight it is in the pass side.......
Never fails.....I never seem to have the luck

[HWYSTR455]

Ok, now I see the measurements. You could probably chuck a bolt up in drill, slip the bushing on, use a nut to retain it on the bolt, and sand that thing down 6 or so thou. Can't imagine it taking much.

Another thought is you may be able to slide a piece of safety wire in the hole, then push the bushing in. You could even flatten the wire a little by mashing it with a hammer on the garage floor.

As long as it doesn't turn in frame rail, you should be fine. After some time that slight gap will probably corrode some from moisture and it won't spin anyway. The bolt/Teflon piece will be the least amount of resistance, so it probably won't spin anyway.

You could even dimple the outside of the bushing with a punch, that too would prevent it from spinning.

Good luck with that, but sounds like you have some options, should have this figured out shortly.

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[cnc]

Originally Posted by HWYSTR455

Ok, now I see the measurements. You could probably chuck a bolt up in drill, slip the bushing on, use a nut to retain it on the bolt, and sand that thing down 6 or so thou. Can't imagine it taking much.

Another thought is you may be able to slide a piece of safety wire in the hole, then push the bushing in. You could even flatten the wire a little by mashing it with a hammer on the garage floor.

As long as it doesn't turn in frame rail, you should be fine. After some time that slight gap will probably corrode some from moisture and it won't spin anyway. The bolt/Teflon piece will be the least amount of resistance, so it probably won't spin anyway.

You could even dimple the outside of the bushing with a punch, that too would prevent it from spinning.

Good luck with that, but sounds like you have some options, should have this figured out shortly.

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That's a good use wish I had a drill press that would be a better option I think but a drill will work......and sand it down

With the loose bushing yeah I thought about dimpling ...I also have metal adhesive at work....
We use that stuff on axles where it comes into contact with the frt hub bearings...
The axles would give a snap sound cause the clearance was ever so much the axle would move.... metal adhesive was the fix...
So with dimpling and adhesive might be the answer...

New bushings is the right way.....

[HWYSTR455]

I wouldn't use any adhesive, that thing may need to come out in the future, and that would prevent that from happening.

A drill press isn't needed, you could just put a piece of sand paper on a flat surface, and chuck the bushing up in a regular drill, spin it, and lay the edge on the paper. The amount you need to go is minimal, it wouldn't take long at all.

I say just go with the bushing you have, no reason to wait for the new one, and you're not sure the new one will fit any better anyway.

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[cnc]

That's the plan chuck up the bushing from you sand to fit,,,,
The bushing in the drivers side that's somewhat resistant to turning I'm pulling it and knurling.....

Keep u posted on the outcome ...got your pm too...