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Ram Air Series Cam from Butler
I'm having an engine built for my 1969 GTO. Decided to make it a ram air car.
I looked for some 722 heads to no avail and stumbled on to the RAII heads Pictured Last edited by napster; 12-06-2020 at 02:44 PM. |
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While I was at it I came across the following new cam from Butler. Thought I would give a try.
Engine will be .60 over and with a 427 stroker kit will equal either 440 or just shy of 440 CID. Compression will be 9.9 and using RA IV exhaust manifolds. Should be an interesting build. |
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The intake/exhaust lift is opposite of what a RA II head generally likes. It will probably run better with a 1.65 rocker on the intake and a 1.5 on the exhaust... Seems like a cool build!
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This is a flat tappet Hydraulic Camshaft? Like Factory?
Do not understand the HR at the end of the part number. (HR typically means Hydraulic Roller). Tom V.
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I was assuming it’s a hydraulic roller from the card?
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Would the extra exhaust lift come in handy with iron exhaust manifolds
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Are the heads dated D228? If so production heads are a little more desirable than service heads. Looking at the picture both will be D228.
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Probably not for a street type application. Eventually if the engine is spun high enough the added lift will help.
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Took a look at their new cam offerings. Indeed a Hydro Roller. RA seems only a name!
https://butlerperformance.com/c-1234...by-butler.html Last edited by STEELCITYFIREBIRD; 12-06-2020 at 05:01 PM. |
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Hi Tom, yes that is a hydraulic roller cam. Butler offers a "Ram Air" series of HR cams now.... As you know the Butlers are great with marketing.
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Hydraulic roller version of the venerable 041 grind will run well with those heads and around 440 cubes.
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I end up building quite a few carburetors for engines done there or from folks who have bought parts there.
For quite a few years they pushed a LOT of XE cams and most of their custom stuff was ground on 110LSA's for quite a few years. The XE268, XE274 and XR 276 HR were high on the list. It's probably been 3 or 4 years now if not longer, but after a phone conversation with them about an engine they were dyno tuning I sent them the cam card comparison below. Things have changed quite a bit since then, if anyone is paying attention.......
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Kind of what I was thinking.
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Look at post #25 by The Boss in the link for the dates of production for the RA II heads. http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...04#post5256604 |
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Here are both cams.
Smaller 276 roller on 110 LSA Intake 3314 276 @ .006 224 @ .050 145 @ .200 .335 Exhaust 3315 282 @ .006 230 @ .050 151 @ .200 .340 ---------------- OF roller on 114 LSA Intake 3122 290 @ .006 236 @ .050 160 @ .200 .3800 Exhaust 3120 304 @ .006 244 @ .050 161 @ .200 .3830 I don't see LSA... just a chit ton of AREA difference - same as the engine. Here is another 455 dyno with 250 CFM d-ports (I think they did more than 70 pulls) using the smaller roller - https://www.hotrod.com/articles/hppp...e-stuska-dyno/ Another member Tom S used the smaller cam on a stock iron dport 455, made 432 HP. Last edited by pastry_chef; 12-08-2020 at 06:56 PM. |
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They added the 96 the next day D238
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With the round port exhausts and the smaller D port sized intakes I'd flow the heads before I bought a cam. Betting a single pattern or a "reverse" split like my RAIV heads liked.
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs |
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I was thinking of the attached cam before I saw the RA series cam. The attached cam is being used in my 1970 T/A. It has 614 heads and is a 433 CID engine. It runs very well. |
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