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Old 10-10-2021, 06:57 PM
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Default Cast aluminum intake repair With E 85

Hey everybody,

I have a cast aluminum intake that has porting damage for the port divider and wanted to know recommendations and suggestions for repair for use with E 85.
I've moved to a rural area and have very limited repair resources so want to know How to do it right.

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Old 10-11-2021, 01:03 AM
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Interesting topic hope someone has a definitive answer kind of interested in the answer myself

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Old 10-11-2021, 06:22 AM
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Can you post up a picture?

I would give Masterbond a call and speak to them.

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Old 10-11-2021, 06:30 AM
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Splash Zone epoxy. Then cover the repair with some quality clear paint -- spray some into a paper cup and dab with a small touch up brush. Keep in mind uncatalyzed rattle can paint has a long cure time (2+ weeks) without baking. Best to use some 2k catalyzed paint and be sure to cover the edges.

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Old 10-11-2021, 06:34 AM
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The expansion and contraction of a Aluminum intake will in time crack off that clear paint and then the epoxy will start to break down.

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The expansion and contraction of a Aluminum intake will in time crack off that clear paint and then the epoxy will start to break down.
Got that tip from Darin Morgan, I've used it a number of times and has held up well for me. I think the key is good paint. Of course, welding would be best.

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Old 10-11-2021, 09:21 AM
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I used Splash zone epoxy and then sealed off with POR 15 gas tank sealer. The sealer is good to 300 or 400 degrees. I can t remember what the specs were for heat capabilities, been awhile. Granted my setup is strictly race run times but has held up well with E85 over the past 4 years. Also I used it on my Gutsram which made it easy to flow it through the intake.

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Old 10-11-2021, 09:26 AM
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Craig, What part of iowa are you in???
THere's a few folks in the state that can do what you need done!!!

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Old 10-11-2021, 09:59 AM
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My experience has been welding is best for a permanent repair. I like splash zone, "Zspar specifically", but as mentioned, it must be sealed with something if running alcohol fuel. also the bonding surface needs to be left rough for best adhesion. If the alcohol fuel can wick it's way between the aluminum and the Zspar, it will swell slightly and begin to break off. Sealing is the key.

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Old 10-11-2021, 12:05 PM
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Mark Sullens recommended welding

A very Strange land - Fairfield Iowa

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Old 10-11-2021, 02:00 PM
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Sorry no pictures

Modifying an open plenum single plane manifold with short runners - by accident - narrowed the divider between the #5 and #7 to a knife edge "1 long

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If you can get a TIG torch in there, that'd be the way to fix it. If ya wanna drive to St. Louis, I can fix it.

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Mark Sullens recommended welding

A very Strange land - Fairfield Iowa
im only about an hour away from you & can recommend a couple very good machine shops in my town that im sure can do what you need or refer you to someone that can.

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Old 10-11-2021, 03:07 PM
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Thank you guys - very generous.

Where in Iowa? Pella?

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Thank you guys - very generous.

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Old 10-11-2021, 08:17 PM
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Curious what are some of the names of machine shops you can recommend?

Unfortunately, since my accident I won't be able to walk or drive or get into the garage for months.

Some curious what is your car - 78w72?

Thanks again guys greatly appreciate it, Craig

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Old 10-11-2021, 09:00 PM
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will PM you.

i currently own some 2nd gen t/a's i have restored & used the same shop for all my engine work. a 78W72 (obviously). an 81 daytona pace car, & most recently finished a 72 firebird with a 467 stroker with round port E-heads that runs low 11's with a Q-jet & HO intake.

i dont post much in the race section since its more of a street car but i have done quite a few test & tunes to see what it can do, still working out some issues to get its best times.


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Old 10-12-2021, 10:15 AM
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I'm in waterloo and can fix it i have a micro torch if needed. Jeff

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