Any real times yet?

[Zig'sbird]

Not from magazies, but from actual people?

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[judge_jury_executioner_69]

if the mags are right id be embarassed to post 1/4 mile times. i wouldnt brag about 13.6-8 times. next year if they ahve the 400 in it that should be better.

Greatest Of All Time

[GTO_2004]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by judge_jury_executioner_69:
if the mags are right id be embarassed to post 1/4 mile times. i wouldnt brag about 13.6-8 times. next year if they ahve the 400 in it that should be better.

Greatest Of All Time<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

why wait for next year... 400hp is but mearly a few bolt-ons/ tweaks away, that most likely can be done without voiding warranty.

Australian RWD + American V8 - Now THAT'S what I call a "coalition".

[Mr_GTO]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by judge_jury_executioner_69:
if the mags are right id be embarassed to post 1/4 mile times. i wouldnt brag about 13.6-8 times. next year if they ahve the 400 in it that should be better.

Greatest Of All Time<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What other cars are running mid 13's bone stock? There are not a lot of them.

[Tails]

Even fewer when you consider price.

Phantom Black/Red on the road

[thefirebirdm@n]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> What other cars are running mid 13's bone stock? There are not a lot of them. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree, when did a 13-second 1/4 mile time become lame??? http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

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1970 RAIII Trans Am
1969 GTO

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[Nickv]

I will be taking mine to the track once Maple Grove opens. I'm confident I can get the car into the low 13's.

It's funny my 72 Lemans turned a best of 13.3@103 and everybody was given me kudo's on the times.

The new GTO 6speed was tested by MT at 13.6@104 and everyone says it's a lame time. It's still the fastest STOCK, I said STOCK GTO to date. And your right, When did 13's slips become lame? http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

"Everyone is entitled to be stupid sometimes, but you're abusing that privilege"

[gtoguy1967]

13's is not all that fast imo, But to do it in somthing that has every thing these new cars have on em and still have warentes(sp?) is awsum. I took my 5000# truck to the track sat and with very bad traction it went 13.67 @ 103mph Like I said not super fast but Not a hole lot can hang with those times.
Nick any plans for mods?
Don

some times when you race with squirrels you get your nuts cracked!

[judge_jury_executioner_69]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mr_GTO:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by judge_jury_executioner_69:
if the mags are right id be embarassed to post 1/4 mile times. i wouldnt brag about 13.6-8 times. next year if they ahve the 400 in it that should be better.

Greatest Of All Time<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What other cars are running mid 13's bone stock? There are not a lot of them.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


i can name a few import 4 cylinders that do better then that from the factory im sure theres more

subaru imprezza erx sti
mit. evo-8
dodge neon ( turbo ) ...... remember i came up with a list for ya before.

Greatest Of All Time

[judge_jury_executioner_69]

the neon is around $20k evo 8 is right with the gto ( maybe a few thousand more ) and im not sure about the sti.

Greatest Of All Time

[judge_jury_executioner_69]

next year if they come out with the 400 and make it look better and faster id drive that. but not the 04. no way im gonna brag on the 04 when it will lose ( assume the gto does 13.5 thats a fair estimation according to the mag results ranging from 13.6ish-14ish ) the evo 8 will do 13.4 and the sti is supposed to do 13.2 the neon is supposed to be around 13.6 as well but with 4 less cylinders and wrong wheel drive. does anyone else see a problem ? hello 4 more cylinders. the new gto shoudl beat the s*** out of these imports

Greatest Of All Time

[Nickv]

I plan on installing a vortech supercharger sometime next year on the car.

"Everyone is entitled to be stupid sometimes, but you're abusing that privilege"

[Nickv]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by judge_jury_executioner_69:
next year if they come out with the 400 and make it look better and faster id drive that. but not the 04. no way im gonna brag on the 04 when it will lose ( assume the gto does 13.5 thats a fair estimation according to the mag results ranging from 13.6ish-14ish ) the evo 8 will do 13.4 and the sti is supposed to do 13.2 the neon is supposed to be around 13.6 as well but with 4 less cylinders and wrong wheel drive. does anyone else see a problem ? hello 4 more cylinders. the new gto shoudl beat the s*** out of these imports

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http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif And how do you know it won't. Don't go by magazine times. There bogus most of the time, magazine racing is out. I go to drags all the time, including those great test and tune nights when the lanes are filled with imports.

I've have YET to see any Neon go better than 14.5 last year. There was a blue WRX STi at Cecil county last that was running a 13.6-7 So....

But you know, I don't care. I didn't buy this car to be a street racer, and I certainly didn't buy it for anyone on this board. I bought for me.



You know....."Everyone is entitled to be stupid sometimes, but you're abusing that privilege"

[LiL Jack]

I've never seen a all stock front wheel drive ***** box neon run 13.6's. 14.0s to 14.2s are the norm and with some drag radials run high 13. Neon are large bags of *****, a throw away car after 50,000 miles.

Nitrous you trusted your a$$ still got busted

[The Champ]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by judge_jury_executioner_69:
the neon is around $20k evo 8 is right with the gto ( maybe a few thousand more ) and im not sure about the sti<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I told you this before...

If you think those cars are so much better, buy one.

You seem to spend all your time trying to prove how fast these 4 bangers are - so you must really prefer them.

Go hang out in those boards. They'll appreciate your interest in fart pipes, decals, and big wings... http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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[Goathead]

At least two SUV's are turning the 13's.... http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars_trucks/2003/8/mighty_mites/print.phtml


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[GTO_2004]

big deal, when your running tens.
http://www.fullboost.com.au/racing/dragmeets/2004/calder_04_02_3/calder_04_02_3_076b.jpg

Australian RWD + American V8 - Now THAT'S what I call a "coalition".

[Mr_GTO]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Goathead:
At least two SUV's are turning the 13's.... http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars_trucks/2003/8/mighty_mites/print.phtml


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Which SUV's would those be? All I see there are cars.

[judge_jury_executioner_69]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Champ:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by judge_jury_executioner_69:
the neon is around $20k evo 8 is right with the gto ( maybe a few thousand more ) and im not sure about the sti<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I told you this before...

If you think those cars are so much better, buy one.

You seem to spend all your time trying to prove how fast these 4 bangers are - so you must really prefer them.

Go hang out in those boards. They'll appreciate your interest in fart pipes, decals, and big wings... http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee/forums?s=7286011111&a=ga&ul=435609086

http://kurtspontiac.homestead.com/MikeChampion64GTOConv.html

http://community.webshots.com/album/15849580xmGcRmPeoB/

http://community.webshots.com/album/12663529FeuMopVfMu/<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i wouldnt waste my money on one. but theres a problem if they are faster then a 04 gto.

Greatest Of All Time

[judge_jury_executioner_69]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LiL Jack:
I've never seen a all stock front wheel drive ***** box neon run 13.6's. 14.0s to 14.2s are the norm and with some drag radials run high 13. Neon are large bags of *****, a throw away car after 50,000 miles.

Nitrous you trusted your a$$ still got busted<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

this is a new neon. a srt-4. or something like that. i agree i tore up a rental car that was a neon. i could only pass someone going downhill. and i had to have it floored on top of that.

Greatest Of All Time

[judge_jury_executioner_69]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Goathead:
At least two SUV's are turning the 13's.... http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars_trucks/2003/8/mighty_mites/print.phtml


http://kurtsplates.homestead.com/files/goathed.jpg

http://www.dannys65gto.com

http://kurtspontiac.homestead.com/dannys65gto.html<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeah id like to find a syclone or typhoon. that is the ultimate sleeper.

Greatest Of All Time

[Nickv]

Now were racing magazines!! Reminds of ls1.com. http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I don't how many of you reguarly go to the strip on test and tunes nights. But I can assure you not many of these new so called rockets are turning the times you say they are.

one of the faster import I saw all of last year at MG, was a really nice RX7 Turbo he ran a best of 12.8 I raced him a few times, nice guy. There was a Red Evolution Lancer which ran 13.9-14.1 all day long. The fastest import was a 1970-72? Datsun coupe with a rotary and nitrous that was running very low 11's. Every other car besides those were running from 19 to high 14's.

Mustangs.. Hell not one was in the 13's. I'm talking the new Mustangs. There was Cobra, stock running a best of 13.2 against my 13.6 at the time. It's all about the driver, or those car are overhyped.

I pay no mind to magazine times. The real test is the track.

I'm by no means saying there are no fast imports, but stock they are not what you think they are. At least not in my area.

"Everyone is entitled to be stupid sometimes, but you're abusing that privilege"

[Zig'sbird]

So, in another words no, there are no real times yet http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Nick, once you get some let us know. I'm very curious on what they will run - not counting magazine times.

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[Goathead]

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[Nickv]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Goathead:
Must be one big ass busy, it shure takes a long time to get around it.... http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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http://kurtspontiac.homestead.com/dannys65gto.html<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually there are do you wish me to post some of them from ACTUAL users.

Our track is not open yet, but when it is I will take mine to the track. Be patient my good man.

"Everyone is entitled to be stupid sometimes, but you're abusing that privilege"

[Nickv]

2004 GTO A4 automatic - 13.19@105 - unfiltered cold air intake, Drag Radials.

2004 GTO A4 automatic - 13.6@103 - Stock - No mods

Only two that I found so far from real owners. 6 speed should be a little quicker. I like the 13.19 time. http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

"Everyone is entitled to be stupid sometimes, but you're abusing that privilege"

[judge_jury_executioner_69]

lets call it 13 flat with a stick. thats a whole hell of a lot better then the 13.8ish that mags claim. i dont understand these mags want to brag on the new cars and yet dont want to fudge the numbers. i mean this is the same car running .5sh slower. makes no sense to make a car sound slower then it really is to me. i wont talk so much s*** on the 04 if theyll do 13 flat... but theyre still ugly

Greatest Of All Time

[ERIC17621]

Well lets see, car mags are in the pocket of car makers. If there was ever any question, look at the Car and driver, and motor trend car of the year...A Friggin Toyota Pirus! How much do you think that cost Toyota? Now, look at the at January motor trend. They compared the Ford GT to the dodge viper, but intentionally reused the same test data on the Dodge viper that they had previously tested in other conditions. Right down to the 1000th of a second. Most of their head to head tests do their best job to show that two wonderful cars are dead even, and if they don't perform the same on the same day, they will use previously recorded info, that may or may not have been recorded in the same conditions to prove their point. No doubt that in some conditions, especially with bad air, and excessive wheel spin, a stock GTO can only muster 13.8ish. They will continue to use this number, unless comparing it to a faster car, and if they can get better times, they will use them. I read these magazines to stay current on what is coming out, but their opinions and performance numbers are so easily bought that they are practically useless. If GM ponies up more $, I have no doubt these mags can show sub 13.5. That is why you have to drive one to know for sure!

Tripower: The big bad car and three little [gas] pigs!

[judge_jury_executioner_69]

you got a good point. i wondered myself why a prius would get car of the year. i mean id rather drive a pinto. and they like to cover the bmw's,audi's..... and try to make it sound like a sports car. seriously why would i want to know the 1/4 mile times of these luxury cars ? i take back the pinto remark... make it a gremlin. or a geo metro running on 3 cylinders.

Greatest Of All Time

[Zig'sbird]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nickv:
2004 GTO A4 automatic - 13.19@105 - unfiltered cold air intake, Drag Radials.

2004 GTO A4 automatic - 13.6@103 - Stock - No mods

Only two that I found so far from real owners. 6 speed should be a little quicker. I like the 13.19 time. http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

"Everyone is entitled to be stupid sometimes, but you're abusing that privilege"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks Nick. Since my change in jobs a couple of months ago I rarely ever get onto LS1/LS2.com any more, but I was still curious.

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[ERIC17621]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by judge_jury_executioner_69:
i wondered myself why a prius would get car of the year.
Greatest Of All Time<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Especially on two separate and independent mag's, in the same year! These are supposed to be performance oriented car mags too, it's not like we're reading consumer reports or something! Oh well, that stunt pissed me off, but what are ya gonna.

Tripower: The big bad car and three little [gas] pigs!

[Nickv]

2004 GTO 6 speed. Bone Stock

Went to the strip yesterday.


Removed the spare tire and jack only. Lowered rear tire pressure to 20lbs

Here is my best time of the day.


R/T .154
60' 1.915
330' 5.435
1/8 Mile 8.459
MPH 79.48
1000' 11.107

1/4 mile 13.320

MPH 104.16

[This message was edited by Nickv on March 14, 2004 at 11:46 AM.]