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Jeff V
11-13-2004, 10:21 AM
Since the topics get sidetracked so often,when it gets sidetracked make a new topic.
My 68 Firebird is backhalved,with only fiberglass hood,trunklid,front bumper.Steel floor,stock firewall.It has a 10 point cage with .132 wall tubing,mild steel.Dash is aluminum.4 wheel Wilwood brakes.5 gal fuel cell,2 16 volt batteries.Lexan only in side windows,glass front and rear.Doors are not gutted,just glass removed.
455 w/alum heads,glide,Ford 9 inch rear.Weld Draglite wheels 15x3 1/2,15x14.

Empty weight-2820
Race weight-3060

Jeff V
11-13-2004, 10:21 AM
Since the topics get sidetracked so often,when it gets sidetracked make a new topic.
My 68 Firebird is backhalved,with only fiberglass hood,trunklid,front bumper.Steel floor,stock firewall.It has a 10 point cage with .132 wall tubing,mild steel.Dash is aluminum.4 wheel Wilwood brakes.5 gal fuel cell,2 16 volt batteries.Lexan only in side windows,glass front and rear.Doors are not gutted,just glass removed.
455 w/alum heads,glide,Ford 9 inch rear.Weld Draglite wheels 15x3 1/2,15x14.

Empty weight-2820
Race weight-3060

Fish
11-13-2004, 10:27 AM
My 68 Bird with roll bar and me is 3350lbs...

But I am slow..

Jagtec1
11-13-2004, 11:20 AM
My 69 Lemans gutted....still has all galss and all steel. Wheel arches removed.

Weighs 3470 with 1/2 tank and me in it. Till I get the cage done....but I'm doing a glass hood, nose, and removing all un-needed parts to try to even it out.

ErikW
11-13-2004, 11:20 AM
1964 GTO all steel, even the tubs and rear floor. The bolt on scoop weighs more than the metal I cut out of the hood for the hole. No inner fenders, aluminum radiator, wilwood brakes front & rear, big ass heavy dana 60, one racing seat, carpet, door panels, stock glass, 10 point mild steel cage. Weighs in @ 3150lbs. empty. Runs 10 teens @ 129 with RA IV motor & 9.90's @ 132 with e-head motor. Hope to see 9.70's with IA II motor this spring.

Erik

dda72
11-13-2004, 12:03 PM
Eric,

What is the difference between your RAIV head motor and Ehead motor??

Dwight

Jack Ferris
11-13-2004, 12:15 PM
69 GTO Backhalved w/ladders,14-32's, 10 point mild cage, full lexan, all steel except hood and nose, gutted doors, 2 lightweight ft. seats, steel tubs, 4 wheel wilwood discs, Eheaded 482 T400, no radiator support. 3200# with my 230# lard ass in it and full of fluids. Runs 10.30's at 4500 foot track(6500-8500' density altitude).


Jeff- Im interested in trying a glide. Did you do any back to back testing with the 400 vs. the PG?

PMDRACER
11-13-2004, 12:21 PM
71 LeMans, all steel. 3880 pounds without me in it.

grandville455
11-13-2004, 12:43 PM
74 grandville .all steel...4860 with me in it

JSchmitz
11-13-2004, 12:59 PM
1964 GTO post w/455, 400 turbo, 12/10 bolt Olds rear. Full interior street car. It weighed 3580 with a half tank of gas.

pontiac6269
11-13-2004, 01:18 PM
62 Grand Prix 4100 with me in it.

Don Kennedy
11-13-2004, 01:24 PM
My Old 1992 Pontiac Super Stocker weighs 3389 with the stock body . The quickest i have ran with the 1973 455sd combination is a 9:79 et at 136.65 mph. Right now I am running a "little" heavy until i need to take out weight to out run a chevy in my class. LOL

69f bird
11-13-2004, 01:35 PM
'69 Firebird convertible, all steel, full interior and exhaust, long branch manifolds, fold down rear seat...4300 lbs with my 300 lbs. of lard ass inside it.

dammen8
11-13-2004, 01:58 PM
My big turd weighs 3500 with me in it,, this is with fiberglass hood and fenders and alot more lightening, a 12 point moly cage racing seats, aluminum heads, radiator a custom radiator support made from round tubing....I would like to know how to get my car down to 3000#'s or less...

Chad Dammen

PROBRD
11-13-2004, 02:04 PM
My 67 Bird is backhalfed with steel tubs. The only fiberglass is the hood and the front bumper. No lexan, all glass, drum brakes, carpet, 1 racing seat, 2 optima batteries, 455 with steel heads. Race weight 3340.

mikeb
11-13-2004, 03:18 PM
79 trans am. Interior removed (door panels & door crash bars still in place), stock driver's seat, 10 point steel cage, draglites, skinnies on the front, heat & AC removed, aluminum radiator, front bumper support swiss-cheesed, fiberglass hood, 455 with iron heads & aluminum intake, headers with full 3 inch pypes exhaust, flaming river manual steering conversion.

3410lbs curb weight, 3600lbs race weight according to the scales at the texas motorplex.

I've identified another 200lbs I can get out of it before it starts to get real expensive.

bmpmdf
11-13-2004, 03:42 PM
My Vega is all steel except hood and glass, mild steel chassis, and my need to go on a diet rear in it with the alum. headed Pontiac 400 +.040" checked in at 2692 lbs. My all steel Pro Street 69 Firebird is over that without the engine or trans! YIKES!

Ken MacNicol
11-13-2004, 05:41 PM
81 Grand Prix, backhalved with glass hood and trunk, 9 inch, th400, aluminum dash, 2 seats, 2 batteries, 8 point roll bar, original windows, d-port 467. #3040 with me in it.

Herb Hagan
11-13-2004, 06:06 PM
74 Ventura race weight 3600# 12pt c-moly cage
11.10@122.4MPH 1.59/60Ft
462 w/#13 heads
Torker 2 w/HP1000 carb
Comp Cam solid roller
TH400 Column shifted w/Coan 10" converter
3" full exhaust system w/tailpipes
3.90 gear/MT ET street 28.5/11.5/15

Heading for N/A iron headed 9's next season,
Herb

fast72lemans
11-13-2004, 06:18 PM
Mine weighs 3,750 with me in it, glass hood and trunk lid, full interior, but no heater. brrrrrr http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ErikW
11-13-2004, 06:23 PM
dda72, 2 tenths. Seriously though, The RAIV motor has steel rods and a 660 lift comp cam.Heads only flow 278 on intake side. Holley street dominator intake w/1050. The e-head motor uses aluminum rods, victor intake, 1050 carb, heads flow 319 on intake and net lift is .630.HP is 651 @ 6200 rpm. No hp figures on RAIV motor.

PontiPowered84TA
11-13-2004, 06:38 PM
1984 TA, All lexan except for hatch, no interior, fiberglass hood,doors, and front and back bumpers, weld draglites, 12 bolt, 400 with iron heads, th-400, alum. rad., not tubbed, 8pt. steel cage, 1 seat, 5 gal cell, and 25 lb. NOS bottle....2760 empty, 2925 race weight

felton thompson
11-13-2004, 06:39 PM
66 Post GTO 3460 race weight with driver no power adder 9.20 @ 145

nhrae402
11-13-2004, 08:06 PM
67 lemans lexan windows except windshied. vfn frontend,hood and decklid. alum core support 455 steel heads. alum floor from back of drivers seat to rear bumper5 gal. fuel cell alum. 2 batterys turbo 400 trans weight is 2890 less driver 3090 with

68GTOConv
11-13-2004, 08:52 PM
'68 GTO Convertible - all steel. Weight = Too damn much (exact figure unknown).

Mike M

goatless
11-13-2004, 09:06 PM
1969 Lemans convertible, A/C, th400, all steel.
4150 lbs. race weight. 4050 lbs. with the spare out and 1 1/4" front sway bar off. Deduct another 220 lbs. for my fat self!

Jeff Walker
11-13-2004, 10:04 PM
1968 GTO all steel, but hood and trunk gutted. Interior and all factory wiring gutted. Replaced dash and metal behind seat and rear shelf w/aluminum. Lightened up radiator support, aluminum radiator, custom made fiberglass front bumper and E-headed 463 under the hood. All glass replaced with lexan.(Got the pricey, scratch resistant stuff for the windshield). Oh, and a 6 point (for now) roll bar.

Empty weight 2820
Race weight 2990

dammen8
11-13-2004, 10:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jeff Walker:
Empty weight 2820
Race weight 2990 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey Jeff what do you say we stick my engine in your car http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif just to see what would happen

Chad

BVR421
11-13-2004, 10:10 PM
cars back east seem to be miraculously 200-300 lighter than you would expect
maybe its the rust deal

Jeff Walker
11-13-2004, 10:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dammen8:



Hey Jeff what do you say we stick my engine in your car http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif just to see what would happen

Chad <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sure! But I get to drive! http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Torment
11-13-2004, 11:53 PM
74 Firebird:

AC and all ducting under dash removed
inner fenders (knucklecutters) removed
all steel except glass hood and front bumper
full interior with two fiberglass racing buckets
wipers, manual steering and manual brakes
factory dash with autometer gauges
Autodrags all corners
10 pt mild steel cage
12gal fuel cell
all glass
iron head 455 with 8-71
TH400
Dana 60 with 5 stack leafs and Caltracs
3500lbs dry
3750lbs w/5gal gas, 25lbs NOS and me in my monkey suit

twooldgoats
11-14-2004, 12:48 AM
'64 GTO post coupe, fiberglass bumpers, hood and scoop, no inner fenders, aluminum radiator, lexan all around, stripped interior, E-headed engine, mufflers, fire system, 10-point roll cage (mild steel), with fuel, etc. but no driver: 3130#
(with fiberglass one-piece front end and doors on the way to put it under 3000#) http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

02Hawk
11-14-2004, 01:04 AM
1970 GTO, full street trim with 6 point bar. 468 ci SD Performance Pontiac power,TH400 with manual valve body,reverse shift kit and 10" TCS 3500 convertor. Cali no hop bars, 10 bolt rear with 3.90 gears. MT 28 X 11.5 x 15 ET streets

11.82 @ 113 with a 1.59 60 ft at 2300 ft (uncorrected)

3995 lbs with my 250 lbs of my wide ass strapped in

Bud Lyons
11-14-2004, 04:32 AM
79 Sunbird. Dana 60, 400THM, lexan hatch and side windows. Alum firewall. 2975 with me in it.

Robert C.
11-14-2004, 05:20 AM
1992 Trans Am Tube Car. Glass front, Doors Hood, IA II, 2470lbs. with out driver.

For Sale: See it in Performance Parts for sale:

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455firebird1969
11-14-2004, 06:00 AM
1969 Firebird, full interior, centerline auto drag wheels, RPM intake, #3500 staged.

Mild 455 best pass 11.92 @ 113 MPH, 1.57 60'
New motor "The Thumper" going together. Layed the crank and #1 rod/piston yesterday, will degree cam today between football games...

TOP 452
11-14-2004, 07:15 AM
65Goat race ready wt 3160lbs 9.51 at 138.96.

SCOTT ESTERLE
11-14-2004, 07:34 AM
67 Bird 3200 empty & 3400 with me in it. Full interior & no fiberglass except the rear spoiler. 10.77 at 121 on pump gas.

oldinjun
11-14-2004, 07:51 AM
'63 LeMans, 428 w/#62 heads TH400 10 bolt Pontiac rear. 8 point roll bar, headliner, and carpet, & 1 seat. Lexan all around, except back glass. Body is all steel except hood scoop and front bumper. Car was assembled with strip only in mind. Weight = 2830 lbs, 3150 w/my fat ass in there. I don't believe in dieting, when I can just add more power! http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Has anyone here considered what a tube chassis under your existing body would do to the weight? I assume weight would go UP unless you used a lot of aluminum and fiberglass. Just curious.

PONTIAC DUDE
11-14-2004, 08:12 AM
76 T/A Street legal. All steel & glass except for glass 'Bolt on' hood weighing 5 lbs less then a stock hood and front bumper. Power windows, tilt wheel, full interior less back seat, lightend frt & rear bumper supports, aluminum rad, Steel full NHRA cage and tie ins. Fully welded unibody.

<span class="ev_code_RED">3553 lbs with me in the car and 5 gal fuel........ 8.90's@154mph. </span> http://pysales.com/images/sweat.gif http://pysales.com/images/sweat.gif

oldinjun
11-14-2004, 08:52 AM
Oooops! I do NOT weigh 320 lbs! HA! I meant to type 3050#.

bigcountry
11-14-2004, 09:23 AM
63 catalina, 3980 with me and 5 gallons of go juice. 10.09 @129.6 462 12.1 e heads

bigcountry
11-14-2004, 09:27 AM
All righty then!

PONTIAC DUDE
11-14-2004, 09:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bigcountry:
63 catalina, 3980 with me and 5 gallons of go juice. 10.09 @129.6 462 12.1 e heads <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If that's N/A, That's very impressive.

bigcountry
11-14-2004, 09:45 AM
definetly no power added! E-heads by SD, large roller (280/290@50) ported victor and 1250 dominator. 4:10 gears out back, th400. A super lot of fun to drive and a big suprise to the bowtie and blue oval boys. Should be in the nines if I can get it to hook up this winter!

bigcountry
11-14-2004, 09:50 AM
Here's the devil's den as it were!

Skip Fix
11-14-2004, 01:50 PM
78 TA all steel PW, PS, stereo with amps. No A/C compressor or condensorE heads 3750 with me. 4 core "regular" radiator.10.90s @ 123,

John Bailey (GTOKID)
11-14-2004, 04:37 PM
91 bird best et 9.19 147.89 @ 3380 lbs.stock suspention/wheel wells. 28x10.5 M.T. tire only glass is hood.I swapped in manual doors less beams and left out a few bolts(not sure where they went anyways) car is now 3307 with 2 batts and 3268 with one batt. I only made a few runs best 60 foot was 1.29. Quay built the car, picked the custom shocks. All I had to do was hit the gas and hang on....car leaves so smooth and strait its actully feels slow almost boring. actully the only neat feeling is when you lunch and can only see sky!!! car looks so stock a guy was asking why in the world I had a parachute on it....LOL

Bill Bolin
11-14-2004, 08:03 PM
My 70 GTO has a fiberglass front end and a glass decklid. All the glass is there. It has a chrome moly tube frame, two racing seats, Ford 9", turbo400 and full exhaust. The 474 has a 6-71 on it with steel heads and it tips the scales at 3160 with very little fuel in it and 3350 with me in it.

John Langer
11-15-2004, 06:24 AM
'69 trans am clone, all steal except hood and front bumper, stock glass and interior except 2 racing seats, 3225 lb race weight 8.94 @ 153.15

70 lucerne lemans
11-15-2004, 06:41 AM
1970 Lemans convertable,462 RA manifolds,A/c,with custom light weight trunk and rear quarters(got to get this thing in the body shop!)3800#,4025 with driver.13.00@105 still looking for 12s.

60man
11-15-2004, 07:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bigcountry:
63 catalina, 3980 with me and 5 gallons of go juice. 10.09 @129.6 462 12.1 e heads <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

VERY IMPRESSIVE Bigcountry!!
My 60 Ventura has glass hood and 5gal fuel cell and full street trim and now weighs 4,015 with me in it. 462 w/JBP 670's,TH400 & 4.10's and only runs 12.1-12.3's/1.56-1.68 60' with a "small " cam. However could be run on the street with capped exhaust and run 12.50's. Going to try and pull 2-300 pounds off this winter and add some more ponies ! http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Rob B
11-15-2004, 10:31 AM
74 Ventura/GTO All steel, full interior minus the backseat, all glass, carpeted, 8pt bar, 455 E-head, T400, 12 bolt, race weight at 3320#, 3130# sitting on the trailer going home http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

carbking
11-15-2004, 11:23 AM
1974 GTO licensed street car, less than 3000 pounds (how much less is classified http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) with or without me in it.

Jon.

fasteddy
11-15-2004, 12:10 PM
76 GP, Glass hood all the rest is steel--3650 race weight.

Ron
11-15-2004, 03:16 PM
1965 GTO...1971 HO 455 engine, TH400, 12 bolt w/4.10 gears. Street driven from time to time. All steel. 3975 with driver. Best is 11.88 seconds at 114 MPH.

DAVE RIBEIRO
11-15-2004, 03:34 PM
1977 formula firebird,all steel and all stock car + engine 400ci,Q-jet,cast manifold, 9" slicks,3spd-auto, 364/364 lift-cam.(3915lbs)
Runs 11.70's at 110mph.Yes, stockers are cool
Pontiac, engineers knew what they were doing!
Dave...1033/stock

Butcher
11-15-2004, 03:42 PM
1970 Firebird, 3505 pounds with driver, 11.17 at 120 mph.

firechicken
11-15-2004, 05:39 PM
Dave Ribeiro,
Could you elaborate on your '77 Formula combo please? That sounds impressive.

firechicken
11-15-2004, 05:46 PM
Oh yeah,
All steel 77 ta. full interior except back seat power windows, locks, steering, brakes and trunk. no lexan. iron head 455. Big stereo. 8 point bar. Heater intact. Stock rad. No bumpers or inners. 25lbs NO2. light seats. 3330 no driver half tank of gas.

LiL Jack
11-15-2004, 07:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PONTIAC DUDE:
76 T/A Street legal. All steel & glass except for glass 'Bolt on' hood weighing 5 lbs less then a stock hood and front bumper. Power windows, tilt wheel, full interior less back seat, lightend frt & rear bumper supports, aluminum rad, Steel full NHRA cage and tie ins. Fully welded unibody.

<span class="ev_code_RED">3553 lbs with me in the car and 5 gal fuel........ 8.90's@154mph. "ONCE"</span> http://pysales.com/images/sweat.gif http://pysales.com/images/sweat.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

SlowSpitzer
11-16-2004, 06:13 AM
93 Spitzer, mild 468. 1760 with me,
5.75 in 1/8th.

MMRACING
11-16-2004, 03:27 PM
70 Lemans, no air, no heater, no wipers, no inner fenders. Has fiberglass pin on hood, full interior with all original windows. Has 8pt rollbar and two fiberglass front seats.
Ford 9 inch, turbo 400, 462 with Eheads.
It weighs 3460 with driver. Best time is 11.19 at 120.

critter
11-16-2004, 04:15 PM
How about a 1974 TA, power windows that work, power door locks, etc. Street trim kinda car. With me in it and the AC still on the car the scales showed 4110 pounds in Memphis.

Best quarter mile time has been a 12.9 but I usually run at a 1000 foot track. I've run as well as a 10.29 at that track in good weather.

AC is going back on the car this year. Arkansas is HOT in July. http://pysales.com/images/sweat.gif

Jeff Kinsler
11-16-2004, 07:37 PM
68 Bird, all steel except fiberglass hood and fiberglass inner fenderwells(secret), full interior including stock front seats. Stock fuel tank with sump. 468 with d-ports..
3380 #'s with driver. Runs 10.37 on motor and 9.88 on 150 shot..

DAVE RIBEIRO
11-16-2004, 08:47 PM
Firechicken,

What would you like to know ??? If you want to e-mail me I will give the info you want...DAVERIBEIRO@AOL.COM Dave...1033/stock

WARPed
05-03-2005, 12:01 PM
1985 GP 416ci E headed full power & interior full 20 gal fuel cell – 3550bs
1969 GP 467 E headed back halved full cage etc – 3540lbs
84 S&W 125” 23t Altered with IA 505ci E heads – 1630lbs projected

These weights are with out driver

n2ogpsj462
05-03-2005, 02:55 PM
71 grand prix SJ. 4280 WITHOUT me in it. also no AC or spare tire. i wiegh in at 170-175. so were looking at alittle over 4450 with me in it. 400 home ported 62s 234/242 crane cam 700R4 transd and a 100shot. best was 12.16 at 109. with a 1.63 short. went 114 with a 125 shot but crazy wheel spin and 2.2 60s only gets me 12.40s. hoping to get the same times on motor this yr as i got on nitrous last yr. 462 and alot more work. does that make me the quickest car over 4200 so far!!!???? http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif