View Full Version : Gary's gtogoodies
BOB A.
05-21-2005, 09:48 AM
I bid and won some front windshield moldings, I send a money order and waited 10 days I email him.He emails me back claims he sent the items I wait another 10 days no moldings. I call no answer and no call back,I email him twice no response. I make a complaint to Ebay and than he leaves me negative feedback claiming I,m a demanding customer. I guess if asking for an item you paid for is demanding, than I'm guilty. The best one he puts on the feedback I'm on a no-bid list lmao. gary'sgtogoodies buyer beware
fastgto
05-21-2005, 10:56 AM
Post his address. Maybe somebody who lives in his area can help you out.
BOB A.
05-22-2005, 09:11 AM
Thanks, I purchased the molding from someone else I'll let ebay straighten it out.
miker129
05-22-2005, 01:22 PM
Thanks for the info guys. I was watching a 68 GTO automatic console he has on Ebay.
BLKBRD
05-24-2005, 07:39 AM
I've had some issues with them. I won't do business with them anymore.
Hitman
05-24-2005, 08:41 AM
Despite hearing poor things about the guy I emailed him and he emailed me back about some grilles and then was very hard to deal with. Needless to say, he got no money from me.
Has anyone heard from the other scammer, Black Tie Classics? I think he changed his name or is selling cars as a independant person cause I keep seeing GTO's for sale up in Jersey in the same spot.
GTOMazz
05-24-2005, 09:40 AM
I had bought things from him that were supposed to be dent free. http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
hotrodrx
05-25-2005, 10:58 AM
I have lost on every e-bay bid on his radio's.I put in a reasonable price and no one bids on it until about 6 hours left, then the price seems to rise. A very similar item comes back on e-bay the next day. Puzzling?
Rugratman
05-25-2005, 11:18 AM
Good to know guy's, I was looking at a restored dash from him.
I can't stand it when they use private auction listings, I can never tell anything about the seller. Now I know why.
Rugratman
05-25-2005, 01:40 PM
I just read thru some of his feedback too. http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
lil64gto
05-25-2005, 04:50 PM
GarysGTOgoodies thinks everything he has is 1A quality and at more than premium dollar.
I watched a set of spinners go without ever meeting his reserve 2 times on ebay. Both times I was the high bidder. Afer the auction I emailed him that I was willing to pay his reserve if it wasn't too high. He responded back that it was an auction and was tired of people asking him what he reserves were. Not sure if he ever did sell them.
I would advise all buyers beware of this guy.
BOB VIDAN
05-25-2005, 10:49 PM
He bought a ton of parts from me at the Portland swap meet 2 years ago. He threw a fit when I would not give him more then 10% off my already reasonable prices. He appeared superior, like his **** didn't stink. After reading you guys feedback, he won't buy anything from me regardless of what he offers. Thanks for the clue in.
Hitman
05-26-2005, 04:35 AM
He and that a$$ from Billion and Trillions should merge. Together they can build a "top quailtiy" show car with all of thier "top quality" parts since they will not sell them at thier prices and attitudes. Definitly not two people for the hobby.
gobrdgo
05-26-2005, 08:33 PM
Is this guy based in Wyoming?, I think I remember him from when I was big into selling pontiac stuff. He always got at least a third more money for the same parts, He has some BS "fine collection" of GTO parts , Right?
Jeff Hamlin
05-27-2005, 03:48 AM
Bob V hit it on the head for me.
That jagoff (Garys) likes to buy low & re-sell high.
I had a MINT 65 blue steering wheel for sale & he TRYED to beat me down, I told him to blow.
SHUT HIM DOWN BOYs http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
RR67GTO
05-27-2005, 07:32 AM
I won an auction he had for a complete set of 67 GTO window molding. Posted it as like new, and show car worthy. However, it took me five weeks after sending the funds to get it. And, when I did the molding was no better than something I could pull from a car and buff myself. The back was filthy dirty from years of crud. Scratches on the molding required that I have it done again by someone who was able to do the job right. So, I paid twice and waited seven weeks for it. By the way, he keeps his auctions priviet so o one can see what he sold and ask how they liked it? I was forced to leave positive feedback because he had me by the short hairs. Never Again, I, like buying from Bob Vidan who you should know. As well as from another great guy GtoBill. Both are fine people and who get most of my dollars. Thanks, Mike in Oregon
A-body
05-27-2005, 08:37 AM
Mike
Explain how you were "Forced to leave positive feedback" Feedback is voluntary. You are never forced to leave feedback. Some ebayers beg for feedback. I leave it if I'm satisfied. As a seller, I seldom leave it brfore the buyer leaves it, that way I know they are happy. I've been burned a few times by leaving it early. One guy emailed me after getting the part, and it sounded like he was ok with the transaction. I left him positive feedback, then he left me neg. I refunded his money and he was supposed to comment on the neg feed back , but never did
If anything, if you couldn't get a refund, you should have given him negative.
Gary
lkt1954
06-02-2005, 09:20 PM
All of us are always looking for parts at a fair price and it pi**es me off for guys like Gary's gtogoodies to exploit one and all. I have for several weeks tried to but some revels on e-bay (I know, I know) and when I bid on ones from Gary's they stay at one parice for days, then shoot sky high and the buyers idenitity is protected, yet when I bid my name is there for everyone to see. I guess I am just wanting to vent as guys like this pi** me off. I know the answer, do not buy from guy's like that (this board does a great job of keeping everyone informed of rip-off artist, yet the urge and need for hard to find parts drives us all to look and try every where to find those parts. I guess it does not matter to e-bay how he conducts business, as long as they get paid and no one complains. Once again just venting.
Thanks
Larry
PonchoMike
06-02-2005, 09:55 PM
Had my own problem with this guy last year. Left him a negative feedback and he put me on his no bid list also. Seems he took exception to me saying that the carton was damaged by UPS during shipping. Also didn't like the fact that he uses the same pics for an item over and over again. The pic that is shown is not an actual representation of the item being sold. Would not buy from him again.
bull529
06-08-2005, 12:51 PM
maybee we could get another forum strictly for e-bay related problems.i know as most of you there are some bad seeds in this hobby.i too have had some bad luck with certain sellers.i know there is always two sides to a story,but sounds like garys is baaad news!maybe we could also post the "good guy" sellers,the ones that are solid.there are many of these guys out there,and they make it a great hobby!
baron_
06-16-2005, 10:52 PM
feedback is a tricky thing, as to being forced to leave certain feedback
on questionable auctions or problems that you have, it's hard to leave negative feedback
because you know they'll leave it for you, so it's sort of a no win situation
i've had quite a few dealings where i'd love to leave negative feedback, but i know he'll just make up something about me and leave it for me too
however, interestingly, your opportunity to leave feedback expires after a certain amount of days, 30, 60? - i forget
so if you wait until that last day, you can leave it and he probably won't be quick enough to get you back
as for private auctions, i see them a little differently
as someone who sells some stuff on there, i get pretty tired of dealing with the idiots on there....in a dozen different respects
if i put a big $ item on a regular auction, i get people who see something selling for a good bit of $ and sometimes they e-mail my bidders...offerring to sell the same or nicer for cheaper or more expensive
(i've had people i know bidding at times, and they've told me)
then, at the best..they cancel their bid after driving up my price and scaring away others
other times, they just refuse to pay and threaten negative feedback to me, if i leave it to them
although, i'll agree
seems shady for Gary's...when he's supposedly offering parts that are show quality - shouldn't have anything to hide and should want his reputation getting distributed
lkt1954
06-25-2005, 08:12 AM
Much to my own disblief, I purchased a set of seat belts from garysgto goodies on e-bay. When I went to pay it dawned on me he only took money orders (strange if you purchase direct he will take credit cards)and thats my fault had the head in a** syndrome. I e-mailed them and advised I would be more than happy to pay with credit card, that I would not pay with money order (that leaves me no protection). Ofcourse I got all the bs of should not have bid if could not accept auction terms and threatened to leave negative feed back on me. Well that pi**ed me off and I e-mailed him and told him- leave your negative feed back, one negative score would not hurt me, I can life without e-bay and his products, also told him that from other sources (PY forums) I knew his reputation and I could leave more damanging feed back tahn he could. Well guess what-- he replied he would leave no feedback on me, that I should read payment information better the next time. I realize this problem was my fault for 1) dealing with him and 2) not reading all the terms. My point is that if you get in a bad situation with any seller, stand up for yourself and do not be intimidated by their threats.
Larry
bull529
06-26-2005, 06:57 PM
aaaayyyhhhh men to that one!!
Baron Von Zeppelin
07-19-2005, 06:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Clay Marsh:
however, interestingly, your opportunity to leave feedback expires after a certain amount of days, 30, 60? - i forget
so if you wait until that last day, you can leave it and he probably won't be quick enough to get you back
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I like that strategy. Been very fortunate on eBay, so far. If we can "sharp shoot/sniper" a bid at the final seconds of an auction, feedback should be able to get snipered in the last minutes or seconds too.
A-body
07-19-2005, 12:25 PM
You have 90 days to leave feedback. It starts when the auction ends, so if you want to wait, you can. I tried to do it once, but forgot one of the 3 months had 31 days, so I missed out.
robscar
07-24-2005, 06:55 PM
i did win an auction on ebay from gary's. i did recieve the parts without incident and well wrapped. my complaint would be the shipping and handling charges. more than the parts cost.
it was just some door handles and the shipping was only about 1/3 of the s&h charges. i can understand some handling, but wow! i could only imagine what the handling would be for a large item. $$$$$$$
racerboy
08-02-2005, 12:14 PM
I bought a tilt column for my ’67 GTO from Gary’s GTO last summer. I paid for the item within 24 hours of winning the auction, but it took him almost 7 weeks to ship it to me. He told me that he wasn’t the one who took care of the shipping, that’s why it took so long. When I finally got it, the tilt lever was missing. I know it’s a relatively inexpensive part, but his auction ad specifically stated that the lever would be included. I emailed him for the lever and included a copy of his ad. This went back and forth. He finally conceded. He told me, “I guess you have to win this argument.” I wrote back and told him that it had nothing to do with ‘winning’, I simply wanted delivery of the goods that I purchased. I think I’m on his no-bid list too. Who cares? I see he has nice stuff from time to time, I was just so disappointed in his customer service that I don’t think I’d buy from him again.
lkt1954
09-08-2005, 06:27 PM
Well guess what about Mr. Gary & GTOGOODIES, form my earlier post you know I purchsed a product and he would not take a credit card. The long and short of it he said he would leave no feedback and I should read better.
Well I checked e-bay today and much to my disbelieve Gary had left feedback......
POSITIVE I was an A+ customer and a very knowledge buyer......... Go figure.....
Just wanted to share.
Larry
68birdragtop
09-08-2005, 09:19 PM
Cool Larry, sounds like you got some "HUSH" feedback. :D
Andre
09-11-2005, 07:16 AM
How many negatives do you have to get on ebay before they won't let you sell on there. He seems to have an enormous amount.
Jurassicgto
09-11-2005, 10:57 AM
I Had a bad experience with this guy also. Bought a "perfect" '65 gto fiberglass hood from him about 4 years ago. After it arrived at the shipping terminal, I brought it home and unwrapped it. It was busted up in a few places. No one wanted to accept responsibility, neither Gary for his careless wrapping, nor the trucking company for man-handling a fragile item. The trucking company said I should have unwrapped it and inspected the item for damage at the terminal to be able to receive damage $. Finally got a little $ from the trucking co. Months later after the repairs were made, I tried to mount the hood on the car. The "perfect" hood I was promised was warped and definately doesn't fit the car very well. Buyer beware with this guy.
WARIARGTO
09-12-2005, 07:00 AM
Bought a full set of black 66 GTO deluxe seat belts from him last month. I went to snipe the ebay auction last second and my computer burped and missed it. I emailed him and he replied he would sell the set in the auction for $400 which was what I bid so I agreed. He was OK with a credit card. It took him over 1 month to get them to me, and he had about 4 more auctions go off with the same identical picture in each. I was worried because the next auction was won at over $500. Figured the higher bidder would get the nicest set. The set I got was a decent set, but not the one in the auction I thought I was buying. Pompous would definately be a good word to describe him after several phone calls wanting to know where my stuff was and when I could expect it.
peppergreen
09-13-2005, 04:48 PM
Good info regarding the Wyoming parts.
Someone had a good idea in the thread about ebay sellers. I have to make a list of the GOOD sellers I've dealt with. Some guys/gals are great and seem to go the extra mile for ya. 4slash6 on this forum is one of them.
BLKBRD
09-14-2005, 09:03 PM
I won an item from them on Ebay and sent the money order the next day. About one month later and no part, I contacted them and asked where my part was. They said that they hadn't shipped it because I hadn't paid. I researched the money order and verified that it had been cashed at a bank in their town 4 days after I sent it. They said that they had no record that they had received my payment. I stated that this was the same problem that I had with them on a previous purchase. They reluctantly sent my part, but insisted that I obtain a copy of the cancelled money order so that they could verify the signature. They said that they would reimburse me for the cost of the cancelled money order ($12.00). I received it, sent them a copy, never heard from them, and never received the $12.00. I haven't dealt with them since and don't intend to in the future.
6tee7goat
09-15-2005, 06:30 PM
Whew! I don't do too much on e-bay but saw some a couple of Gary's auctions for some 'show-quality' parts I wanted and, although out of character, I decided to bid quite a way, way higher than I normally would to obtain the quality parts pictured. Each time I was 'sniped' by bids that were beyond my wildest dreams for those parts. Couldn't believe people would actually pay those ridiculous amounts. After reading this forum I guess I was actually lucky I have a slow dial-up connection.
ks gto (Cap)
09-15-2005, 06:33 PM
6TEE7GOAT----Was that those vent windows??? I watched those and couldn't believe the jumps!!! I gotta be outta touch. Cap
Ron Landis
09-16-2005, 02:15 PM
I've been tempted, but comparing some of his auctions will give you a clue. He seems to have alot of "doctored-up" items. Excuse me...I meant "professionally restored." My bad. As for feedback...I learned the hard way as well. Three negatives out of over 250 positives. One non-paying bidder and a scammer wanting money or else. Also a guy not unlike Gary...sold a throttle bracket pictured with the "T-2" facing down, then stating it came from a '69 Judge. Called me an ignorant moron after I left fb calling out his deceptive practices. These guys never answer e-mails.
GeeTeeOhh
09-21-2005, 10:27 AM
jeg - I was thinking the same thing. look at this $225 ashtray for a 66-67 GTO. I thought the tray was supposed to be plated, not painted like his restoration is. Maybe I'm out of touch too on the way prices for parts are headed. Guess the $250 I paid last summer for a largely intact '67 Lemans WITH an ashtray wasn't too bad a deal.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4574823888&category=34206
rzrektd
09-21-2005, 12:08 PM
Glad I ran across this thread. I was going to buy from him.
70 RA4 Judge
09-27-2005, 08:11 PM
As others have been burned by GTO Goodies , so have I. I had been told by Gary that I was getting a restored 70 GTO dash bezel after 2 - 3 weeks after ordering in June. He charges me premium price in early July and then I get run around from them until I reach him 2 weeks ago (mid Sept) to only ask about the status of it. Gary tells me I am too particular for exchanging a rechromed bumper that has rust on it and cancels my order on the dash bezel . He hangs up the phone after telling me to go home and cry to my mommy". He finally gets around to getting me a refund on MC today only after filing a dispute. What an unprofessional A$$$% and although he has hard to find parts its definitely not worth the aggravation to deal with.
FLHOTRODS
09-27-2005, 10:20 PM
I guess maybe I was one of the more fortunate ones in dealing with him. I recently bid on some back window chrome for a 69 Lemans and received it within reasonable time (1 1/2 weeks after he received payment). It was in very good condition no dings, no tweaks, and had very nice polish work on it. I did think the price was a little stiff though, but I'm used to buying parts for Chevrolets and they are a little easier to find and a little less expensive. I didnt like the private auction deal either, surely he's got someone jack'n the bids. I'm glad I ran across this thread, because even though my experience with him wasn't bad I dont push my luck! Bidders / Buyers beware
Jack
stevep
09-30-2005, 05:42 PM
Andre, I'll bet there are a lot of people here who didn't have the misfortune to know Fitz. You might want to elaborate.
Andre
10-02-2005, 11:42 AM
I'm going to try and show some restrain and not discuss what happened there. It is almost surreal, and like something out of "Goodfellas" or "Casino"
stevep
10-02-2005, 05:11 PM
Come on Andre, he won't rise from the grave!
marxjunk
10-04-2005, 07:18 PM
Check out e-snipe.com
I use it all the time, never loose. With ebay, i found I was driving the price up when i got excited. Ya go to e-snipe, put in your bid and wait, 6 seconds before the end, it bids, no one can bid that late, and be sucessfull, their clock is set to ebays, with in something like milliseconds.Since I have used them things have been great.
I bought some stuff from Garys' back in the "hemmings" days, was scary to say the least. Parts where so-so, attitude was terrible on his part. Gave up trying to get a refund, and the part is on my shop wall, and i stare at it once in a while and can do nothing but laugh now.....i'm all outta tears.
joey GT-37
10-05-2005, 09:03 AM
Has anyone mailed him a copy of this thread?
pontiac poncho
10-05-2005, 05:11 PM
Has anyone mailed him a copy of this thread?
Yes, Someone did awhile back and needless to say he wasn't happy. He said that Chris is lucky that he hasn't been sued yet. I would probably end this thread if I was a moderator. Just my 2 cents.
hotrodrx
10-05-2005, 07:33 PM
I can't see where Gary has a problem when people are telling their stories truthfully. That seems to me to be the purpose, to tell the story and to inform. Just my 2 cents. It is expensive enough to buy parts, but no-one wants to throw money at their car. Bill
fdplatt
10-05-2005, 08:59 PM
I bought a refinshed dash from him, it was unacceptable, but he did refund my $$.
Ron Landis
10-05-2005, 10:03 PM
This information network is for our protection. It's only slander if it isn't true. Apparently Gary realizes this, hence no action taken. Chris is to be commended for providing this service. I, for one, appreciate it. Best way to cover your butt is to be a straight shooter and take an honest approach. Everyone in the Pontiac parts circle pretty much knows who they can and cannot trust, and that's the way I like it.
67gtoTony
10-08-2005, 05:39 PM
I'm new to the hobby and was not aware of the resources available to buy parts. Performance years(my favorite) Ames, OPG, Year one and so forth.
I purchased several parts from gtogoodies and was very pleased with the service and quality, however in hindsight pretty expensive. With a little research and patience most of these parts are available just as nice for less money. As far as the ebay auction part of it, people are waiting till the end to see what price these items are at and if still in price reach bidding in the final minute to give them a better shot at winning. If your bid goes in with little time left it is very hard for someone to outbid you. I put a used shifter hump on ebay for $.99 and let the auction go without a buy it now or reserve
and it sold for over $70.00. The same one is available new from OPG for $43.00. A perfect case of someone else(other than me this time) buying something under the ellure of ebay without doing research.