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JamesR913
03-24-2005, 07:39 AM
Has anyone dealt with BillionsandTrillionsinc.com. How are their prices?
JamesR913
03-24-2005, 07:39 AM
Has anyone dealt with BillionsandTrillionsinc.com. How are their prices?
Hitman
03-24-2005, 08:26 AM
I almost choked when he told me how much he wanted for a pair of grilles for my 67 Lemans. When I paused he knocked off 100.00, so you might get a good deal if you act not interested.
md1twal3
03-24-2005, 08:18 PM
I have never done business here. I needed a lf fender for my 74 GTO...I got a quote of $700 plus shipping...sort of scared me off...
Bryan Jensen
03-24-2005, 10:10 PM
His prices are outrageous, but he does have good quality stuff. I bought a complete 67 GTO grille set from him.
BLKBRD
03-25-2005, 06:11 AM
I called them about a set of '70 GTO fenders. They told me $3250.00 before shipping. I called back several months after the '70 GTO repro fenders came out thinking that the priced would have dropped significantly, and I was quoted $3000.00. They could not guarentee that the the fenders were original rust free, just that "I would not be able to tell if they had been reworked". I don't imagine that they sell many fenders at this price. I also know that they had been scarfing up nearly all of '70 GTO fenders that would show up on Ebay before the repro's came out, and they were bidding high.
I just got off the phone with them asking about some parts they had listed on their web site. He sounded like it was a bother to tell me a price and condition of the part. I'll have to be prety desparate to buy something from them..
gpmodelj70
05-04-2005, 10:36 AM
Same here...on his web site awhile back he had listed NOS left & right grills for a 72 GP...I asked him to double check them because there was no L/R only upper and lower on that year...he said he knew what he had and I didn't know what I was talking about and not to bother him again unless I was ready to buy!!! Never again!
Yep, that's him. I got the "Don't bother me again." right as I hung up....
soon2b2ltmp
05-12-2005, 09:25 AM
DO NOT DEAL WITH THIS COMPANY.
I called up asking for a price on the NOS Turn signal buckets (pair) for a '72 Catalina. He tells me two-fifty to three fifty. Hestiantly I asked Three Hundred fifty? He responds Yep, Why don't you call me back and take a couple aspirins. *click* he hung up on me!
I've never been treated that rudely before.
Bryan Jensen
05-13-2005, 12:35 PM
Like I said, he has good stuff but I'd only use him as a last-last resort. Don't write this guy off altogether, yes he is a jerk but he does have good quality stuff and the stuff I got from him was top notch. Outrageously priced, but top notch.
Word of advice, if you call him to try and shoot the breeze, he'll give you the runaround. But I've learned with him you just be short and to the point and you get treated well. I didn't try to be friendly to him on the phone and he didn't give me any guff because of it.
soon2b2ltmp
05-13-2005, 05:38 PM
I don't care if they're top notch, If I'm going to pay those silly prices, those parts better be gold plated.
wheelspin
05-25-2005, 10:07 PM
I recently purchased a pair of NOS s/s rocker panels from this company following telephone conversations and e-mails with owner Frank Delarzelere. The NOS panels (no pics) were described as having "light" pitting which any competent polisher could buff to show condition.
They arrived well wrapped 10 days later and upon examination, heavy pitting was evident http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif . When I informed Frank, he kept repeating "that any good polisher could take care of those "minor" pits and insisted that they were NOS and that are no others to be found".
To be sure , I showed the rocker panels to two local polishers that have done xlnt work for me in the past and they agreed that heavy grinding would be required which would warp the panels http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif .
When I notified Frank, he got very hot and initially refused to refund the purchase price of $400, stating "that they are not guaranteed and try to find any that are better".
Not wishing to shortchange anyone, but adamant about a refund, I then told Frank that I would have no choice but to place this charge into dispute with my credit card company.
Frank responded with " I will refund your f++kin money and don't even bother to ship the f**kin panels back to me". He then banged down the phone http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif! Apparently, if I don't like them, no one will http://forums.performanceyears.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
Looks like I dodged a bullet http://pysales.com/images/sweat.gif.
Les
JamesR913
05-26-2005, 12:37 PM
how does this guy stay in business???
Bad Karma
08-04-2005, 04:53 AM
DID you get to keep the panels? If ya did I wouldnt complain heheheh. I called there once to for Fenders Ill never order from him!
doyles64gto
08-18-2005, 12:44 PM
I just got off the phone with Frank and it was insane. I asked for a drivers side quarter extension for my 64 and he said " Yah I've got some of those, its 275.00 each!" I said "275.00 dollars? thats a little high isn't it?" His comment was " I guess your cars not worth very much then" and he hung up. I won't be calling him again anytime soon.
Grandville75
10-11-2005, 12:21 AM
The first time I spoke to Billions and Trillions I thought I had accidentally called one of the Arrogant and Nasty Auto wreckers by Shea Stadium in NY.
I had requested a price for a set of NOS front headlight bezels, which they claimed they have, for my 75 Grandville. The person on the other end tells me, "yea yea yea, $300.00. I said, "for each or both" . He says, "EACH!!!! you want them YES or NO!!!!. I did not believe he said $300 each, so I asked him, "are you sure they are $300 ....CLICK, he hangs up. I don't know who they are selling to, but it not going to be me. It's cheaper to have my originals rechromed.
I'm glad to see it wasn't just me!! Thanks
chipster
10-11-2005, 05:54 AM
Frank bought a pair of '67 LeMans tail light lenses from me on ebay, just lenses-no bezels, no housings just lenses, $150.00! I was afraid that I must have misrepresented them somehow. Who would pay that much for just the lenses?
He gave me positive feedback, so I guess he was happy with them. So the trick here is to sell stuff to him, not buy stuff from him.
emather1
10-14-2005, 10:23 PM
I called Billions and Trillions looking for a trunk lid for my 69 GTO. He told me $1000 plus shipping. I then asked about some chrome peices. He asked me if anything I was looking for could be bought through reproduction companies. I said yes. He said "Do that then" and then he hung up on me. I wouldn't do business with him if he was the last resort. Being that rude he must not want to sell much.
Bryan Jensen
10-15-2005, 12:28 AM
I called Billions and Trillions looking for a trunk lid for my 69 GTO. He told me $1000 plus shipping. I then asked about some chrome peices. He asked me if anything I was looking for could be bought through reproduction companies. I said yes. He said "Do that then" and then he hung up on me. I wouldn't do business with him if he was the last resort. Being that rude he must not want to sell much.
Hmm...all I'm going to do is keep my mouth shut...while I neither like nor dislike billions and trillions, always seems like when I post anything negative about a business it always comes back to bite me. All I'll say is that my dealing with Frank was definately the first and the last I'll ever do with him...HOWEVER,it was pretty much hassle free for me, and am happy with the merchandise I got.
Alright, going to shut up before it bites me back.
I didn't realize until I saw this thread that this is the same a$$wipe I had dealt with about 8 months ago.
I was actually looking for some floor pans, found the site online and called.
I guess that I didn't give the idiot the details of what I needed quick enough so he hung up on me. I thought the connection was just dropped so I called back and, he told me flat out, "yea, I hung up on you!".
So I just gave my few explatives and returned the favor....
The way I see it, I work too damn hard for my money everyday to give it to F##@$%%^&%ing guys like that!!
I expect a certain level of customer service when I'm giving them my hard earned dollars. In return, I'll always show a loyalty to those establishments and, purchase from them again.
He can rot for all I care.........
~jal
Greg Reid
10-17-2005, 08:44 AM
Well, it seems pretty much unanimous...the guy is a jerk on the phone. I called about a '68 Tempest/GTO ignition switch. It's not being reproduced so while tough to find, it's not exactly rare. He quoted $400 for a used one- When I said, "$400?"...He called me some name I didn't quite catch and slammed the phone down.
I later got 2 switches plus a bunch of spare odds and ends from a fellow PY'r for around $50.
Steve Hoog
10-17-2005, 09:17 AM
I know this guy personally, he is quite a character.
I can promise you will not find another like him.
rgto273
10-18-2005, 09:10 AM
I called him asking about some tempest taillights and was quoted 450 for NOS and 275 used. Don't really care how much stuff he has, I'm going somewhere else with that jerk and his prices.
carbking
10-18-2005, 11:25 AM
Several years ago, I was looking for some Pontiac parts that I was beginning to believe when unobtainable. I called these guys and yes they had the parts but the price was somewhat shocking. However, I had already WASTED more than what they wanted for the parts in fruitless telephone calls, so I said OK, and sent the money. He evidently shipped the parts the same day, as I had them the following day. Parts were superb, far beyond my expectations. I was a happy camper.
Last year, a good customer was looking for some relatively scarce Pontiac heads. I tried this forum, CP, etc., as well as all of the well-known Pontiac parts suppliers with no results. I again called B & T. Yes, they had several sets in stock, including a set with the date code I wanted. I told him I was calling for a customer, who would call later, and what was the price. I was given a price, which I gave to my customer. Later that week, the customer called to find the price increased, and when he asked for the date code, he was told that getting date coded parts would be $200. extra. End of telephone call. My customer found a set through HMN about 3 weeks later.
One instance very happy, the second just the opposite.
Will I write this guy off? No, but if I should ever need some extremely rare Pontiac parts, I would drive to Oklahoma with cash in hand, and buy on the spot; but only after I had exhausted other sources.
Jon.
Pontiacdaver
10-18-2005, 07:02 PM
I guess 'Billions and Trillions" is what he is trying to make off of hard-to-find parts. The bad part is as long as there are buyers, he will be a seller. Just my 2 cents (which would be about $75.00 there). Daver
Classic Restoration
11-02-2005, 10:55 PM
I have to say he wasn't too bad to deal with. I needed NOS or absolutely perfect grilles for my 74 TA and they were not out there anywhere. I called him and he told me $550 shipped. I asked him if they were perfect and he assured me they were. They showed up 3 days later and they are 99% perfect. I am happy. Frank is a little short but I would order from him again as long as I had exhausted all other means. :fencing:
al6389
12-10-2005, 04:25 AM
I just got off the phone with Frank and it was insane. I asked for a drivers side quarter extension for my 64 and he said " Yah I've got some of those, its 275.00 each!" I said "275.00 dollars? thats a little high isn't it?" His comment was " I guess your cars not worth very much then" and he hung up. I won't be calling him again anytime soon. I jusy sold a PAIR of extensions for $200., thinking that was a fair price, to a fellow GTOAA member.
mrgoats
12-26-2005, 11:23 PM
http://www.bikerfox.com/
check out his other site
BOB VIDAN
12-27-2005, 12:01 AM
A dick is dick no matter what website he "flops" under.
10second70GP
12-30-2005, 12:09 AM
A dick is dick no matter what website he "flops" under.
LOL YOUR RIGHT I DEALT WITH THIS ASSHAT 5 YRS AGO BOUGHT A LOWER VALANCE FOR MY GP FROM HIM AND SENT IT TO THE WRONG ADDRESS I TOLD HIM I DIDN'T GET THE PART , AND HE SAID OH YOU CITY SLICKERS OUT THERE CAN WORK IT OUT , HERE'S HIS # , NEVER AGAIN
robert strohrigl
04-07-2006, 02:07 AM
HES A JERK, BUT DOES HAVE QUALITY PARTS
HE DEALS WITH THE BIG GUYS
LENO INCLUDED
I have many 442 ,Cutlass and Gto parts so if you need anything else let me know?
Thanks for checking with me and God Bless, Bob..
Pontiacmuscle
04-07-2006, 06:30 AM
There are too many good and helpful people to deal with in this hobby than to force yourself to deal with idiots and people with attitude problems....just my 2 cents.
robert strohrigl
04-07-2006, 08:55 AM
WELL , BUT IF YOU NEED THE PART YOU NEED THE PART
SOMETHINGS YOU JUST CAN'T FIND
I JUST SOLD HIM A Q-ER PANEL, I'M SURE HE RESOLD IT FOR 1K+
I have many 442 ,Cutlass and Gto parts so if you need anything else let me know?
Thanks for checking with me and God Bless, Bob..
MY TOYS
68 HURST/OLDS Demmer #196 OF 515
68/442 455/400/323's
68 Gto (auto w dualgate shifter)355's H-Top "PHS Documented"
68 GTO H-Top (4SPD )355's #'s phs documented matching (4 sale or trade)
68 gto (auto) "his and hers" 293's #'s matching 22k actual mile title highly optioned PHS Documented (For Sale or Trade)
66 NOVA POST 327 DH HEADS AUTO 411's
There are too many good and helpful people to deal with in this hobby than to force yourself to deal with idiots and people with attitude problems....just my 2 cents.
Agree with you 100%, Josh. Nicely said.
Steve Hoog
06-08-2007, 07:20 PM
Bikerfox now has live video in his workshop, just call him up and tell him to go out there or catching while he is processing parts orders.
http://bikerfox.com/livevideo/
ID bikerfox
Password bikerfox
wheelspin
06-08-2007, 08:00 PM
What time is lunch ?? :bolt: .
Les
Batman
06-08-2007, 10:36 PM
I know this guy personally, he is quite a character.
I can promise you will not find another like him.
LOL- SteveD hopefully this does not fall under the don't ask, don't tell policy..........:D
Steve Hoog
06-08-2007, 10:58 PM
Just check out the Bikerfox cam from time to time until you catch him on there, then judge for yourself.
MonopolyParts
06-21-2007, 01:57 AM
Steve do not tell these guys I have a 3 camera Live Streaming Video Television BF Reality Show! Now they will all want to see a live picture. Now you guys can see me and all my gorgeous girls working 12 hour days. Oh and guys I work my F ass off all day long trying to get your parts out as quickly as possible. I do care what you think. And yes BF is the ONLY person in the universe whom can supply your needs. Love Bikerfox the one and only..
Steve do not tell these guys I have a 3 camera Live Streaming Video Television BF Reality Show! Now they will all want to see a live picture. Now you guys can see me and all my gorgeous girls working 12 hour days. Oh and guys I work my F ass off all day long trying to get your parts out as quickly as possible. I do care what you think. And yes BF is the ONLY person in the universe whom can supply your needs. Love Bikerfox the one and only..
So he's for real?! Lol, anway. What I've learned here is....to search for parts elsewhere until I run out of resources....then call billions and trillions. Apparently he's really really busy and doesn't have time to answer our questions or gasp at his high prices. We should know what we want, and have the money for it when we call....I guess...lol. It's been worth it for some here already to pay top dollar for sweet rare parts. Too bad he's a jerk, lol.
Steve Hoog
06-21-2007, 08:32 AM
The only thing I've seen so far is you mowing the grass, Larry with some ramair, and some guys building a smoker. Where are all these girls you promise?
No girls make boys gay.