View Full Version : Anybody here have a big block chevy motor in a 73 formula?
ModifiedPONPON
04-07-2006, 06:40 AM
Anybody here have a big block chevy motor in a 73 formula? I need some info please God anybody.
BILL BOWMAN1
04-07-2006, 07:50 AM
A WHAT!!!!!!!!!
J.C.you
04-07-2006, 09:59 AM
i just may know someone that knows someone's buddy that may have one......what u want to know?
formula400
04-07-2006, 10:09 AM
is this a late april fools joke?
Brian Baker
04-07-2006, 10:17 AM
You need to talk to Jim Zeek's brother...he's the one that hasn't fallen and hit his head yet like the rest of us. Or is he the one that hit his melon and the rest of us are ok? :D ;)
TA454
04-07-2006, 02:33 PM
You need to talk to Jim Zeek's brother...he's the one that hasn't fallen and hit his head yet like the rest of us. :D ;)
Wow Brian your fall must have caused some dain bramage,
If I didnt know better I would almost mistake that comment as a compliment.
What do you need to know PONPON?
ModifiedPONPON
04-07-2006, 03:30 PM
I don't have enough money to go out and buy what I want like some of you. Yeah, I've seen you at the drags with your semi's haulin huge trailers with 2 drag cars painted the same color as the semi. I have to work with what I got. I have a chev big block 402 and a new on the pallet TCI TH400. I would like to know if the th400 is going to bolt up perfectly in the 73 formula. I don't want to get stock camaro mounts, I want aftermarket SOLID mounts like what Moroso makes. They skipped the 73 for some reason. Which motor mounts do I use and will they be a bolt in job also? I have 2 days of garage time and today's the 2nd day. I'm using the shop to just get the motor in, I'll do the rest in my gravel driveway. I appreciate anyone who has the knowledge to help. Thank you in advance.
TA454
04-07-2006, 03:50 PM
You want to use moroso solid motor mounts for a 72 camaro (the last year big block was available). As far as the trans your trans cross member will work as long as it is for a th400. As that cross member is different from the th350/4speed. Solid motor mounts are a good choice but i would suggest against the solid trans mount. go with a poly trans mount you need to allow a little movement or you will crack your trans case. If you do not have the crossmember for a th400 you can move your 350 crossmember back and bolt it to your 400. Once it is bolted to the trans you can square it up to the subframe and drill new holes. That is what i did with mine i laid everything out and drilled a .406 hole thru both rails of the frame on each side. I then opened the hole on the bottom to allow the head of the bolt thru just like the original mount location. Hope that helps
Chuck Zeek
ModifiedPONPON
04-07-2006, 06:29 PM
OK, Now were talking valuable information here. It was suggested to me by Jeg's that I use solid motor mounts and transmission mounts since I'm pushing 500 hp to start with. They said that if I use rubber mounts, it will let the motor and tranny shift around and cause cracks in the tranny or other parts? What do you think?
ModifiedPONPON
04-07-2006, 06:36 PM
OK, Now I called Jeg's back and they said the same thing again about solid mounts all the way around. I told them I'm gettin a different story from the Pontiac Forums. He put me on hold and talked to his senior advisor and got back on the phone and changed his story to exactly what you're saying. I appreciate this info from people who actually have done it. I may have more questions in the future, Well, I guarantee I'll have more questions. :) Thank you again.
Lloyd-TX
04-07-2006, 06:44 PM
Moderators, this thread should be moved to the "non-Pontiac motors in Pontiacs" heading!
http://216.178.81.108/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=423
"Puddles the Pontiac"
04-07-2006, 06:53 PM
hey while we're at it, whaddaya think about a CJ Ford in my '65 LeMans? :smash:
notenoughmoney
04-07-2006, 08:37 PM
hey while we're at it, whaddaya think about a CJ Ford in my '65 LeMans? :smash:
why not, looks like your already doin a good job with abortions ;)
"Puddles the Pontiac"
04-07-2006, 09:18 PM
why not, looks like your already doin a good job with abortions ;)
:confused2
guess that one went over my head.
i was only joking bout the cobra jet thing, but it is still a 428 right? :biggerGri
notenoughmoney
04-07-2006, 09:37 PM
i got a rotary engine lets try that out :doh: :D
"Puddles the Pontiac"
04-07-2006, 09:42 PM
briggs and stratton? my car uses their key blanks doesnt it?
notenoughmoney
04-07-2006, 09:55 PM
no, a pull cord located under the dash :)
"Puddles the Pontiac"
04-07-2006, 09:59 PM
and here i thought i was just pulling the choke... :o
notenoughmoney
04-07-2006, 10:38 PM
lol
ModifiedPONPON
04-08-2006, 05:15 AM
If you wanna buy me a 500 horse Pontiac engine with a tranny to back it up, I'll gladly go with a Pontiac drivetrain. Come on, put your money where your mouth is? No excuses, come on.....pay for it.
"Puddles the Pontiac"
04-08-2006, 09:40 AM
you already have a tranny to back up a 500hp poncho. butler sells chevy to pontiac adapters for about $50 if you dont want to make one yourself. not everyone here has big money rides. i bought my '65 about 5 years ago for $3500 and it had a 180hp 400. cant always start out making the big horses. if your chevy is at that point now, i understand why you would want to keep it. if not, do a little horse trading with the big block. pontiacs are not that hard to find. and if you find a chevy guy with one, you may get it with some cash for your chevy. i have less then $10,000, with purchase price, in my car now. hardly big money. it can pull low 12's to high 11's and i can still drive it to iowa and back. good luck dude.
ModifiedPONPON
04-08-2006, 06:31 PM
If I was trading anything, it would be the firebird off for a camaro, any takers?
"Puddles the Pontiac"
04-08-2006, 08:17 PM
:eek: ouch.
ModifiedPONPON
04-08-2006, 08:31 PM
Not to be rude, it's just what I like. I like Pontiacs, I just can't afford the ones that really turn me on.
"Puddles the Pontiac"
04-08-2006, 09:08 PM
its understandable, i got lucky with the '65 lemans ive got. but would love to have a 70-73 bird, or my dream, a '63 lemans/tempest. good luck to ya.
ModifiedPONPON
04-09-2006, 01:15 AM
thank you heres a pic of what I'm workin with................
http://www.atlastoys.com/i//6c_1.jpg
kookykrispy
04-09-2006, 01:47 AM
Wow! that's a really nice looking 'bird. it almost like it wants a chevy with that orange paintjob... LOL
almost.
Bad Karma
04-10-2006, 02:54 PM
PONPON put what you want and can afford. Like you said if yall all dont like it buy me one. I'm in line for any free 455's BUT the purists are not giving them away now are they to keep pontics powered by pontiacs. It's all about a budget and I also live on one.
goatless
04-10-2006, 11:22 PM
If you guys want to bastardize your Pontiacs with Chebby motors go right ahead, but don't use budget as your excuse! If you keep your eyes open there are plenty of good deals to be had on Pontiac motors, both here on PY and in your local trader papers. I have bought good running complete 400's for as low as $400 and nicely built 455's complete carb to pan for $1500 or less. :rolleyes:
ModifiedPONPON
04-11-2006, 09:13 PM
Wow! that's a really nice looking 'bird. it almost like it wants a chevy with that orange paintjob... LOL
almost.
yeah, it's pontiac carousel red
"Puddles the Pontiac"
04-11-2006, 10:30 PM
thanks kooky, i'll never look at carousel red the same way again :(
ModifiedPONPON
04-11-2006, 11:41 PM
That's a '76 hood on it. I think it's the best looking hood of that style. A guy keeps trying to sell me the right Formula hood for it, but I dont dig those.
ModifiedPONPON
04-11-2006, 11:43 PM
I've got the solid motor mounts on the way from summit. Hoping to run mid 11's.
goquick
06-04-2006, 07:30 PM
How is the camero running? er, Firebird?
GOAT WAGON 428
07-20-2006, 10:32 AM
Anybody here have a big block chevy motor in a 73 formula? I need some info please God anybody.
YER KIDDING...RIGHT!?!?!:mad:
GOAT WAGON 428
07-20-2006, 10:41 AM
Anybody here have a big block chevy motor in a 73 formula? I need some info please God anybody.
CHEVYS belong in CHEVYS, PONTIACS belong in PONTIACS, MOPARS in MOPARS and FORDS in the DUMP!!!!!!!!!:D :D :D :D ;) ;) ;) ;)
goquick
07-20-2006, 11:49 PM
Goat Wagon 428; You are wrong, the over rated chevys belong in the dump, not the fords. (we enjoy both of them for lunch too much!!! but the fords are alot of fun to er, burp.)
GOAT WAGON 428
07-27-2006, 05:59 PM
AMEN! Only reason I said that 'cause I HATE ford mustangs!
goquick
07-27-2006, 09:06 PM
:D :D :D
ModifiedPONPON
07-01-2007, 02:08 AM
Well, I'm not putting a chevy motor in the bird anymore, I traded my vette for a 4 link full drag '70 camaro. I have a pontiac 400 for the firebird now.:thumbup:
amcmike
07-01-2007, 02:13 AM
Well, I'm not putting a chevy motor in the bird anymore, I traded my vette for a 4 link full drag '70 camaro. I have a pontiac 400 for the firebird now.:thumbup:
Good man.
Safariman
07-01-2007, 03:18 AM
PonPon,
If you look in Big Pontiac's for sale I've got an '88 with a WELL built 400/TH400 just looking for a swap project like yours, right down to the Firebird headers. You could probably even use a majority of the 2 1/2" dual exhaust. Check it out and let me know if your interested... Price is getting more negotiable all the time.
Gary B> Safariman
ModifiedPONPON
07-01-2007, 01:22 PM
I appreciate the offer but, I already found a 400/400 and I'm switching it out right now. Thank you anyway. -mike:drunk:
goquick
07-02-2007, 01:39 AM
You know it's easy to put a Pontiac engine in that 4 link camaro too?:D The 400 Pontiac with the kre d ports was easy to put in my Vega.:D and with a 9.36 @ 144 best on pump gas isn't too bad at 2700 lbs in my opinion.
ModifiedPONPON
07-02-2007, 01:47 AM
To late, I have a 30 over 454 already being built with eagle race crank, h beams, AFR heads, 1050 dominator and what not. Should be around 700 horse. Wondering whether to use alcohol or not. Not familiar with alcohol at all though.
goquick
07-03-2007, 12:35 AM
It's not in the car so it's not too late. As for alky, I would say it's a lot more work and money, for some performance gain. The big issue with alky is getting the engine temps high enough if you are running aluminum heads and rods. You will have to run a smaller cooling system to get to a nominal 180 degrees for best life from aluminum rods.
JKrull66
07-05-2007, 03:40 PM
[quote=goquick]
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2961258#post2961258
Please respond,
John
goquick
07-06-2007, 03:44 AM
John, you know we are waiting on ups since they lost them.