The Official Deadbeat eBay Thread [Archive] - PY Online Forums

GTO JOHN

08-14-2007, 12:37 AM

Post up your problem people here so fellow PY'ers can block deadbeat bidders and avoid shady sellers. This info could save you some hassle. I have had relatively good luck on eBay with over 800 total transactions but some of these people are just nuts!

All these people are losers and should be avoided at all costs!
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Bill Hunton (parts55chv) not a registered user
Smyrma, GA
770-584-6371 or 770-468-5606
[email protected]

Bill took me for $22 and may be registered under a new eBay account.
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Chad Rivers (hurricaneautoexport) 11 Negatives and counting
Brandon, FL
813-781-3919
[email protected]

Chad never sent 69 GTO turn signal bezel I paid for and never returned phone calls.
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nomad552bal [email protected] 2 Negatives and counting
robert romano
switzgabel rd.
hc1 box 1390
brodheadsville, PA 18322

Robert never paid for a 66 GTO dash. Leaves retalitory negative feedback.
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lunaboy [email protected] 13 Negatives and counting
Alfredo Tinajero
6114 nth 23rd st
arlington, VA 22205

Alfredo bid on and won 67 GTO convertible beltline mouldings and backed out of deal. Stated "Feedback Goes Both Ways" in an email if I gave him a negative for not paying.
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ja06484 [email protected] 4 Negatives and counting
Joseph Aponte
18 Princess Terrace
Shelton, CT 06484

Deadbeat bidder on $120 lower valence for 68 GTO.
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Other eBay users I have blocked from bidding on my auctions.

arrowheadaddict, bdemat1, bighoigy, bonessix, dealmaker1947, dizydane, glfs4par, hotroddersshop, ja06484, jamesr7697, jbarboni7, joelprix66, lunaboy, mrc.engr, navscreen, nomad552bal, peteh1560, redlemans1969, rmhguy, trans_am_pro, uttergto, zortymark

tripower

08-15-2007, 04:04 PM

GTO JOHN

08-15-2007, 04:09 PM

Thanks tripower this is exactly the kind of info we need on this thread.

Redta

08-18-2007, 12:30 AM

EBay ID: johnlee71ho
Ohio

Sold me a set of H-beam rods and claimed they were for press fit pins. Turns out they were for floaters. He later admitted he didn't know the difference. Offered to finally give some of my money back. (less 20%) Still doesn't understand why I was upset. I resold them to a member here.

gtofreek

08-19-2007, 02:51 PM

EBay ID: fat-block
Somewhere in New Jersey

Total deadbeat agreed to by my 67 GTO outside of EBay as long as I would end the auction early. I ended the auction and he backed out and did not pay my $120 listing and final value fees.

No offense but isn't ending an auction early so you can sell outside of E-bay, kinda wrong too? E-bay gets the buyers for you then you try to cut them out of the deal? This is Karma at work here! Sorry, just the way I see it.

marksking

08-22-2007, 09:21 PM

garysgtogoodies

But most people know that.

GTO Noob

08-23-2007, 04:23 PM

No offense but isn't ending an auction early so you can sell outside of E-bay, kinda wrong too? E-bay gets the buyers for you then you try to cut them out of the deal? This is Karma at work here! Sorry, just the way I see it.

Not if he stated on the auction that the car was for sale locally and he reserved the right to end the bidding early.

Ghostgoat

08-23-2007, 06:02 PM

jimmy daniel

08-24-2007, 10:43 AM

don't sell to joe aponte unless you want to be worried to death. I ended up practically giving my part away to him just to make sure I was doing the right thing but it was NOT worth the headache. was rude every time.....even to my secretaries. Major Pain.

tripower

08-24-2007, 02:35 PM

Not if he stated on the auction that the car was for sale locally and he reserved the right to end the bidding early.

Thanks, I obviously had that provision in my ad for ending it early (as it was for sale locally) but did not see it worth responding to his post above. Anyway, back to the topic…

fyrebird68

08-24-2007, 05:03 PM

Not trying to take over a thread and but this is kind of along the same lines. I have been looking at 67 GTO's for the past month trying to get a idea on what I am going to be paying in the future for another one. I have never bought anything on Ebay before but I have noticed some deals "to good to be true". There is a 67 GTO convertible just listed that has a buy it now price of $7900.00. Guess there is all kinds of "deals" and people you have to be wary of...

Most of those are scams. Does the ad say "pre-approved bidders only" or "contact me at (this email address) my ebay account is messed up" or something like that. Sure sign of a scam.

"If its too good to be true, it probably isn't" has never been truer than with ebay. 67 converts seem to be a prime target.

GTOWAGON

08-24-2007, 10:48 PM

If a car on ebay dosen't have a phone number listed in the ad something is usally wrong I don't know anybody that would buy a car without talking to the owner. Personally i will never buy another car that i do not inspect in person before i buy it.

motor29

08-24-2007, 11:08 PM

I second garysgtogoodies, rude as the day is long!:gag:

performerrpm

08-25-2007, 06:57 AM

i 3rd garysgtogoodies he is outrageous on his parts and wants to offer very little, hardly anything for yours

tripower

08-25-2007, 09:55 AM

From what I have heard, Garysgtogoodies uses a generic picture in his ads and it does not reflect the part you are bidding on.

gtofreek

08-25-2007, 01:15 PM

Thanks, I obviously had that provision in my ad for ending it early (as it was for sale locally) but did not see it worth responding to his post above. Anyway, back to the topic…

My apologies Tri-Power. The way it was written sounded like something different was going on. My mistake. :o

performerrpm

08-25-2007, 01:40 PM

i see him on ebay all the time and it always is the same picture as something he has already sold or so it looks to me

Pontirag

08-29-2007, 12:15 AM

There is no way to stop the fraud. these people get bounced off and come right back on under a new name faster that you can "relist" your stuff. paypal screens a bit of it but at a cost. It seems that between Ebays policy on fraudulent bidders and the Paypal deal Ebay actually makes money inviting fraud. Its such a small part of thier business that there is no money in chasing it for them. As a percent car sales itself and that portion that ends up as a case of fraud is a minute percentage of thier overall sales volume. But as an income generator for them its quite profitable. absolutely no risk to them and they actually can generate a profit by allowing fraud. Thier terms are such that its all on you the seller and take it or leave it. Your obligated to pay regardless of the outcome. Tough beans! craigslist!

Take any bad feedback with a grain of salt too. As the slightest misstep on your part will generate some wholly distorted and spitefull feedback. Ebay does themselves enourmous harm by failing to clean up thier act and making fraud reporting all but impossible. Their resolution mechanism is designed to thwart attempts to report or resolve problems.

Helge71

09-04-2007, 10:26 AM

ebay name: loc8tor

I believe he is known in this forum also as "Pontiac Locator"

I bought a used 65 Catalina rear bumper from him at ebay in November 2006. I payed for the bumper and the very expensive shipping (several hundred $$ alone) instantly via Paypal and haven't seen anything of the bumper or my money since...
The "good" part is that Loc8tor kept in email contact with me with ever new stories and excuses until all ebay or Paypal deadlines to file a claim or get my money back were over. Since then the contact completely stopped he doesn't answer any emails although he obviously has still time to occasionally post parts at ebay or in this forum.

Could be that he just guesses that i am too far away from him to do anything against his poor buisness behaviour and he thinks this is an easy way to get some decent money without doing anything for it...maybe he behaves different with US customers?

So buyers beware...

Helge

Ron Landis

09-06-2007, 11:33 AM

livetoride54....bought a '68 April Gold car that was a true barn find. A 400 car with low miles and several options. I explained that the car had sat for over 12 years. No problem. He sends his son with a trailer, listens to the car and DRIVES it onto the trailer...two weeks later he calls wanting $2k cash since the car #1...had four rockers loose on one side and wouldn't start. #2 had four rockers loose on EACH side and wouldn't start.#3 had eight rockers loose on one side and wouldn't start. #4...had oil and antifreeze running out of the water pump and valve covers...#5...tranny wouldn't shift. I think there was something else, but my head was spinning at this point and it all sort of ran together. Anyway..he called ME a liar and a cheat in the neg. fb he left. My ONLY neg. fb out of 334 positives except for two other losers that both ripped me off and are no longer registered users. This guy is a Pontiac guy and his son is probably gonna pick up where he leaves off, sorry to say. His last neg fb was Aug. 15, 07, so he is still at it! BTW ...good idea...this thread! Ron

north

09-08-2007, 10:39 PM

Same comments on Garys GTO goodies, not a crook or anything but stuff is always not as nice as described but not lousy enough to be fraudulent, buyer beware I guess. He is also very rude, needs to get some lovin' it sounds like.

Jack Gifford

09-09-2007, 12:09 AM

Helge71

09-11-2007, 10:20 AM

That sounds really shameful. Anybody here live near 'loc8tor' and able to prod him into getting a bumper on its way? (Or refunding money + interest?)

Thanks for your concern Jack!

Any kind of help would be greatly appreciated...i do not really know what else to do from here and i hate mixing our otherwise nice hobby with legal action and similar (not considering if there would be any chance of success...).

Helge

gunmetalgray67

09-13-2007, 12:44 AM

'loc8tor' got me once too. I won a bid on a tri-power with carbs and linkage. He claims to be from somewhere in south central PA or just over the border in MD. I was going to Summer Carlisle Auto Show 2006 and asked if he would meet me somewhere to save on shipping. He agreed and I drove the whole way to Shippensburg to meet him. When he opened his minivan and presented the tri-power it was bare and the wrong year and had no carbs or anything. He said he must have switched mine with a different tri-power he sent to a guy in New York. I gave him the benefit of the doubt because I wanted the tri-power with carbs. He said he would contact the guy in NY and make the switch. After several weeks (5-6) and several calls and emails I gave up on getting the tri-power and asked for a refund. He did actually refund my money right away through PayPal but I will not deal with him again. He seemed to be trying to do too many "deals" at one time. His minivan was full of stuff and he said he operated some airport taxi service too. Sounds like he has his hands in too many cookie jars at the same time.

Hope you have some luck getting your bumper or the money Helge.

70judgeconv

02-16-2008, 12:08 PM

I am another one bitten by garysgtogoodies. This is the second time my package was "lost in the mail". Yet the other package the part was supposed to be in arrived. After arguing over it I got my first negative feedback. He is to be avoided

PONTIAC DUDE

02-16-2008, 12:50 PM

Not if he stated on the auction that the car was for sale locally and he reserved the right to end the bidding early.

That's just a bunch of crap so they don't have to pay extra to use the reserve feature & start it out at 99 cents!!!!!!!!!!. I have lost auctions over that con many times.

RAIV55

02-23-2008, 04:41 AM

Jeff Hamlin

02-23-2008, 04:53 PM

If your into old magazines I would suggest avoiding "Splineguy"
He just SUCKS.

Kitch428m21

02-23-2008, 05:20 PM

If your into old magazines I would suggest avoiding "Splineguy"
He just SUCKS.

Don't hold back, Jeff, tell us how you really feel!

dedsleds

02-25-2008, 06:26 AM

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Heybuck

02-25-2008, 08:39 AM

Stay away from 800watt. They sell shop tools, machine tooling and measuring equipment. All poor quality stuff, even for China. 1226 negatives and counting. Even the people that give 'em positives complain about poor shipping and communication. If you have a problem, tough! Their contact number is an answering machine. They never respond to email or phone messages.

I just HAD to take a look at this guy. Who on earth would buy from a seller with 20 negatives let alone 1226????? :rolleyes: I just don't get it:confused: :confused:

RAIV55

02-25-2008, 03:16 PM

I just HAD to take a look at this guy. Who on earth would buy from a seller with 20 negatives let alone 1226????? :rolleyes: I just don't get it:confused: :confused:

Yeah I'm asking myself that question.

First transaction was a digital caliper, 96% positive FB... cool! It showed up with a dead battery but they sent a spare with it. Still all was cool, it seemed to work well enough for my reloading bench.

The second transaction, the junk #2 Morse Taper collets finally showed up about the same time the caliper went down. Not cool!

They hit me with a negative FB, which was just the shipping number. I didn't complain that it took several weeks to get to me, just that they wouldn't respond to calls or email and their products were junk.

Stuckinda60s

02-25-2008, 11:41 PM

Not if he stated on the auction that the car was for sale locally and he reserved the right to end the bidding early.So, tripower, what you're saying is that you sold it locally AND that the ebay ad isn't the way the guy heard about it? It appears to me that you were unethical, also. I have to agree with gtofreek and Pontiac Dude.

If the guy heard about it locally and didn't contact you through ebay, then I'm wrong, feel free to correct me. Otherwise, it appears you were trying to avoid ebay's fees after you got free advertising.

I always have a question in the back of my mind when I see that statement and am hesitant to bid because of the appearance of impropriety on the part of the seller.

Rich

tripower

02-26-2008, 12:08 AM

So, tripower, what you're saying is that you sold it locally AND that the ebay ad isn't the way the guy heard about it? It appears to me that you were unethical, also. I have to agree with gtofreek and Pontiac Dude.

If the guy heard about it locally and didn't contact you through ebay, then I'm wrong, feel free to correct me. Otherwise, it appears you were trying to avoid ebay's fees after you got free advertising.

I always have a question in the back of my mind when I see that statement and am hesitant to bid because of the appearance of impropriety on the part of the seller.

Rich

:rolleyes: Apparently you are not familiar with Ebay fees. You are charged regardless. You are charged for listing a car (usually $45) and a final auction fee, even if you end it early. If you could avoid the fees, everyone would do that.

Stuckinda60s

02-26-2008, 12:55 AM

Granted, I shouldn't have said free advertising, but it does seem to be a way to avoid what you've agreed to pay ebay. IF, you end the auction early, had a low reserve and the selling price was higher than what was bid on ebay. If the price wasn't higher, I don't see any advantage to selling it outside of the bidding process.

If I'm wrong, I apologize. I've seen a lot of items I was interested in that ended early when the price was way too low.

Rich

tripower

02-26-2008, 10:16 AM

Not sure why I'm wasting my time with this but perhaps you can read Ebay Motors policy here --> http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/motorfees.html and show me where "I avoided to pay ebay". You pay an insertion fee, and a transaction fee, regardless if you let the auction run (with bids) or end it early.

acgwinn

02-26-2008, 08:21 PM

I see where some of you guys are coming from. But if i list a part or car on ebay and someone within driving distance is willing to pay what i want for it and i don't have to ship or transport it, then i'm going to do it to. Just my .02 though. Damian.

Stuckinda60s

02-26-2008, 08:26 PM

I read the policy. Did you read what I wrote? The Transaction Services Fee isn't charged if your reserve price isn't met. Had you met your reserve price when you ended the auction or not? Was the fee you paid lower than it would have been if you completed the auction or not. That's all I'm saying. If you didn't pay less when you ended it off-line then everythings fine, I'm wrong and I apologize. That's as simple as I can make it.

Rich

tripower

02-26-2008, 10:46 PM

Yes, that is what I am saying, it was not a reserve auction. Started out at the price I was happy with. Both EBay and I were happy.................

Stuckinda60s

02-26-2008, 11:45 PM

Okay, my apologies.

Rich

tripower

02-27-2008, 12:19 AM

If there is one of those “must have” parts or cars on EBay, I’ll sometimes just ask the seller if they are planning on ending the auction early. Not to be underhanded, but because I know others are most likely asking him too. Kind of a way to keep the auction going to the end I guess.

The last few cars I listed on EBay, I was bombarded with “end the auction” and “trade me for my Harley” offers.

Stuckinda60s

02-27-2008, 02:03 AM

Don't get me wrong, I don't think that guy treated you right by reneging on the deal you'd made, especially when it cost you money.

Rich

GonicGM

03-08-2008, 09:53 AM

EBay ID: fat-block
Somewhere in New Jersey

Total deadbeat agreed to by my 67 GTO outside of EBay as long as I would end the auction early. I ended the auction and he backed out and did not pay my $120 listing and final value fees.

I find that most ebayers that offer to buy now off ebay never in fact come through. They are impulse buyers. If someone offers buy it now on my ebay stuff, I will only do so if I have a duplicate and not in fact end the auction on the original item. Even then, I never hear from them again.

GonicGM

03-08-2008, 10:08 AM

Here is my list of blocked bidders, people selling junk, people copying your listings (theft of intellectual property, copyright), know-it-alls harassing you through email on your items they know more than you about but know nothing, impulse buyers, people who buy your items and return for no good reason or swap with their junk, return junk and keep your nice items, people stiffing you:

02transamturbo, 1982oneton, 1bigtop, 2way33, 4theboys2, 67blueponcho, 78taman, a1-towing, arffy, bfoster1991, big_blackford, bigorange4x4, bigunde, carrygobringcome, d_sondej, douglaszx11, dq1690, ed_yowell, groutman13, hoosierauctions, instantbiz, instantbiz4you, jakeewing, loud88z, lovettes, madwombatz, marek0493, markalarson, micahhickman, mopinow, mr340mopar, multiple68, nckid4u, nitrouscoupe, partsman4u, pmd39, purduetwinkie, rearsandgears, robertr7562, rtehs, ryansta, rydrdie, sellpros, sevadjian38, sgleach, stacyt99, tadeuszbobek, teighinger, toyspet, truckgirl63, wolfman698, ************@cs.com

SRR

03-09-2008, 12:07 PM

If your willing to end an auction early just tell the potential "buyer" that the listing will remain in place until payment is received. I have never been paid before an auction ended. ;) This weeds out the nuts. Be prepared for tons of stupid questions if you put your phone number in an ad especially for a car! I got to the point where I would ask: Did you even read the ad? I hate Ebay but if you actually want to sell something for a decent price I don't see a real alternative. Anything I buy over $100. gets paid for with a Postal Money order sent registered/certified mail that HAS to be signed for. I had one guy after paying for a set of Hooker super comps say he didn't receive my payment. Oh really? I have a card here in front of me with your signature on it and will be talking to the Post office about mail fraud. Oh wait! I have it here right in front of me. Imagine that... ;)

Jack Gifford

03-10-2008, 12:42 AM

Gregg V- thanks for answering my PM, and confirming that your "rearsandgears" heads-up does NOT refer to the Seneca Falls, NY business run by John Giovannini.

xgoater

06-08-2008, 11:06 PM

John,

Outstanding thread idea.:hail: For all who have posted their blocked bidders list, would you recommend that any of us just copy and paste your list into our own list? Some of those names listed have a reason given and some just have the name. I don't really care to take the time to review each of these. Has anyone ever gotten a question from a blocked bidder as to why they are blocked?

Here's my blocked bidder list:

6567mcc, 69bgblck, brb0110, cbrodz, cruiseinbob, enmcarz*n*partz, george631, hopsonst

It's a mixture of bad buyers, sellers, and a couple of real smart a$$es.

Thanks, Terry