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Jandro

10-19-2004 09:00 PM

Jandro

10-19-2004 09:00 PM

jwcfbd

10-19-2004 09:27 PM

good looking car and that engine looks much better.

Formulafr

10-20-2004 03:39 AM

you did a good job http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...s/icon_eek.gif

cujo	10-20-2004 04:46 AM

I just love pictures of restoration projects, it sure is better than looking at baby pictures. Great job.

Jandro

10-20-2004 06:11 AM

Thanks! But these are baby pictures! lol http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...icon_smile.gif

matrix

10-20-2004 09:22 AM

Nice job! quite a transformation. But I hope the zip ties holding that very expensive radiator are very temporary. That rad is pretty heavy when full of fluid.

PunchT37

10-20-2004 09:30 AM

Sounds like fun. Good job.

firebirdmi

10-20-2004 10:13 AM

Nice job. However, I suggest changing that air cleaner . I went from something around that size to a 14" unit and it made a BIG difference in power and operating RPM.

gearbanger

10-20-2004 10:21 AM

Ditto

Jandro

10-20-2004 11:08 AM

Since those picturese I have put on 28" Kumhos Ecsta STX tires and purchased a Holley "freflo" air cleaner. It hopefully will flow more air. The zip tires are very permanent, the car hasn't seen the road much since those pictures. I hope to have a radiator bracket set up in a couple days, hopefully so I can run it at the tack this Friday.

Bulldog

10-20-2004 06:54 PM

JAndro, that is one nice looking ride brother, however I wished I had it that easy when I started mine. Take a look..http://community.webshots.com/user/murphs314
I know there are others out there much worse but man. The only thing I dont show in my pics is what the 400 looked like with the stretched timing chain and field mice having made nests throughout the entire car, to include a nest I found when I pulled the valley pan. http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...s/icon_eek.gif

SupergasDil

10-20-2004 07:22 PM

Jandro,
Nice pics, thanks for sharing. Me and my bud can relate to the flex fan photo.

Jandro

10-22-2004 09:59 PM

thanks you guys.

I went to lowes to find something to make a "bracket" out of, but the stuff I got was too soft/maliable. So what do most people do that have oversized radiators? Whats the best way to secure this thing?

Lil SCAPEGOAT

10-23-2004 12:49 AM

18--25 Seconds
My learning experience with temporary Radiator holddown was with 2 thin aluminum strips 3/4" wide @ original top bracket locations.
You won't think of Wind Force against a Large Flat surface,until about 50 mph,Squeese the gas Just a little!!,Hear the noise,recognize it,Turn OFF KEY,Smell new antifreeze,engine winds down,you get to the side of the road, open the hood,(elapsed time 18-25 secconds), to see the SAME Fanblade,just ate my Brand new $195.00 Radiator.....only 40 miles from home!
That feeling in my stomach... "Priceless"
Moral: carry needle nose pliers,& water in the antifreeze bottle.pinch the holes closed in the Radiator,(its already screwed up) watchfor refill sources all the way home.
How Much was That ALUM. Radiator????

Jandro

10-23-2004 10:41 AM

close to $200.

Could anyone show me a radiator support picture?

I would REALLY appreciate it.

EnergyFX

10-23-2004 08:16 PM

HAHA!!! You got bit by a flex fan!!! Now I don't feel like such a moron anymore from when I got bit by one 10 years ago.

quicksilver97ta

10-23-2004 09:38 PM

Great progress Jandro!

Jandro

10-23-2004 11:08 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by EnergyFX:
HAHA!!! You got bit by a flex fan!!! Now I don't feel like such a moron anymore from when I got bit by one 10 years ago. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey how fast is the car in you sig?

Jandro

10-23-2004 11:09 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by quicksilver97ta:
Great progress Jandro! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks, just learning one step at a time!

Rholmes

10-24-2004 01:53 AM

Jandro remove those plastic ties asap.As the radiator heats up it will melt them,regardless of car speed.What about the stock 69 firebird retainer plate.It should work with slight modification(ex. 90 degree 1/8 stock welded/bolted to lip of plate,brace top of radiator,mark holes on top core support and drill for 3 small self tapping screw).This just an idea from the pic.Others with similar f-bodies may have a better.By the way,SWEEEET http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...on_biggrin.giflooking car and engine. http://forums.performanceyears.com/g.../icon_wink.gifRoger.

Txbobcat

10-24-2004 05:50 AM

Cool car You do god work

kaysersuzuki

10-24-2004 05:50 AM

i can see the final score now/fan 1---radiator 0

Sporter

10-24-2004 05:56 AM

My son installed a dual electric fan in his '79 Z28 (455 powered) and after a few months I noticed he had tie strapped it to the aluminum radiator. They actually held up well, but I made him mount it right.

Here is a couple of shots of the Mark VIII electric fan. It fits the 1st generation Firebirds very well and flows between 4000-4500 cfm. Solved my cooling needs.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...0_100_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...80_99_full.jpg

455firebird1969

10-24-2004 07:19 AM

Jandro,

Your car is looking good, and it looks like you are having fun with that S/S fan. Wait until you start to drive that car, all that work will turn into pride when your friends see it. First thing I noticed was the tie wraps securing the radiator. Dont drive it like that, it should be OK for start-up and break-in maybe. What do you have it sitting on in that pic? On my 1969 Firebird the radiator is bolted to the core support, via flanges that are soldered to the each side of the radiator. You could weld flanges to the aluminum radiator and bolt it on the same way.

louisville97

10-24-2004 11:59 AM

How come I can't see the pics? I get a bandwidth theft notice.

Jandro

10-24-2004 12:10 PM

well after 800 hits here and several more on other sites, I'm sure the server couldn't take it anymore lol... I'll put it up again later.

Thanks everyone again... currently the car hasn't been driven really at all. I have it sitting waiting for the radiator support problem to be fixed whenever I get around to it and the weather in Macon clears up. When I get it taken care of I'll show you better pictures http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...icon_smile.gif.

Jandro

Jandro

10-24-2004 12:12 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Sporter:
My son installed a dual electric fan in his '79 Z28 (455 powered) and after a few months I noticed he had tie strapped it to the aluminum radiator. They actually held up well, but I made him mount it right.

Here is a couple of shots of the Mark VIII electric fan. It fits the 1st generation Firebirds very well and flows between 4000-4500 cfm. Solved my cooling needs.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...0_100_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...80_99_full.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd really like to try that fan set up!! as I have found out I REALLY need some fan shrouds. I don't really have the experience or the means to fabricate my own. Where do you find fans like that? Is your radiator a 31 x 19 like mine?

Jandro

EnergyFX

10-24-2004 01:27 PM

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jandro:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by EnergyFX:
HAHA!!! You got bit by a flex fan!!! Now I don't feel like such a moron anymore from when I got bit by one 10 years ago. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey how fast is the car in you sig? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not very http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...icon_frown.gif So far the best I have got is a 8.5 in the 1/8 with street tires (2.2 60'). Most recent 1/4 track trip I was plagued with fuel pump gremlins and never got a good run. I need to stop chasing power and get some slicks. All I keep doing is compounding my traction issues. I'm actualy slower than 8.5 now because I have to let off the throttle before bumping 2nd or it'll break traction and never lock back up... this is after riding the break off the line just to keep from spinning on the launch.

The pics in the sig are old... here is a more recent photo. She's been lowered and has new wheels and tires. Right... I have traction issues so I go and lower my car http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...n_rolleyes.gif But damn it looks better!

EnergyFX

10-24-2004 01:29 PM

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Formulafr

10-24-2004 02:09 PM

i love your mate paint

EnergyFX

10-24-2004 02:25 PM

Thanks... the car is going into the body shoop this week for "cancer" treatment. The current matte paint is a driveway rattle can job (Krylon Enamel). When I get it back it will still be matte black, but it will be a thick and smooth spray gun coat. I never thought I would keep the car that color... but after doing it in the driveway I fell in love with the look and have gotten way too many compliments about how mean the car looks.

Matte Black with professional Gloss Black stripes on the hood scoops and matching on the trunk with white pinstriping outlining the gloss stripes... I may even go so far as to get ghost checkers or flames in the stripes. That will be the final look for this car.

Sporter

10-24-2004 04:31 PM

Jandro - The radiator is 27" by 19" with 22.5" of fins. The fan shroud is 22" by 19" and fits like a glove. I bought mine at the link below for about $149. I used an adjustable thermostat and a Ford starter solenoid. It knocks about 100 rpm out of my idle when it kicks on but it pulls some serious air through the radiator.

Rock Auto Parts

EnergyFX - Love that Formula. If you come to Eglin I'll loan you some slicks. That car needs to be in the 7's.

goatnut4909

10-24-2004 05:20 PM

hey jandro looks real good night and day difference,One question for you how do the fans work i want to go with electric fans also

Jandro

10-24-2004 06:13 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by EnergyFX:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jandro:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by EnergyFX:
HAHA!!! You got bit by a flex fan!!! Now I don't feel like such a moron anymore from when I got bit by one 10 years ago. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey how fast is the car in you sig? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not very http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...icon_frown.gif So far the best I have got is a 8.5 in the 1/8 with street tires (2.2 60'). Most recent 1/4 track trip I was plagued with fuel pump gremlins and never got a good run. I need to stop chasing power and get some slicks. All I keep doing is compounding my traction issues. I'm actualy slower than 8.5 now because I have to let off the throttle before bumping 2nd or it'll break traction and never lock back up... this is after riding the break off the line just to keep from spinning on the launch.

The pics in the sig are old... here is a more recent photo. She's been lowered and has new wheels and tires. Right... I have traction issues so I go and lower my car http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...n_rolleyes.gif But damn it looks better! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is one good looking ride brother... but I have to say, with that signature "VTEC this" you and I may have to throw down hahahah! How bout it? If I win you change the signature? Hahaha! It's all in good fun!

I like that Matte paint too, kindof "rat" style.

Jandro

10-24-2004 06:15 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by michelin man:
hey jandro looks real good night and day difference,One question for you how do the fans work i want to go with electric fans also <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They flow 2500 cfm each, so it's a good flowing fan set up, BUT I'm probably going to sell the set up and just get one with a shroud. If i had the means to make the shroud, it CERTAINLY cool the radiator down a LOT more.

EnergyFX

10-25-2004 07:10 PM

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jandro:

That is one good looking ride brother... but I have to say, with that signature "VTEC this" you and I may have to throw down hahahah! How bout it? If I win you change the signature? Hahaha! It's all in good fun!

I like that Matte paint too, kindof "rat" style. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There's a couple here in the area that I can't touch... but they both have like $15-20k in their motors. The back window has white letters saying "VTEC THIS" as well... but the imports that can beat me are well beyond their days of VTEC, Type R, SSi,... whatever.

Remember... I am 8.5 in the 1/8 TRACTION LIMITED... if you want the deed to my sig then I promise you I will buy, steal, borrow, find, or make some drag slicks before we "throw down". The car has sub-frame connectors and line-locks alreay on it... so she's more than ready to respond to the stickey stuff. http://forums.performanceyears.com/g.../icon_wink.gif

What are you puffing your chest with anyways? Unlike alot of muscle car buffs, I admire many of the Imports that are done right... it all the rediculous sticker/coffee can econo boxes that drive me up the wall. My previous neighbor had a new Evo. That car was really nice... too bad he couldn't catch me on the track with it. http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...on_biggrin.gif

BTW here is one more shot of her along side a buddy's 70 GTO. Both are HO cars.

Jandro

10-29-2004 05:20 PM

heres a little clip of me revving it up http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...icon_smile.gif

right click, save as please

EnergyFX: the honda has a Prelude engine with a 75 shot. It is not your everyday "ricer" lol... it looks stock from the outside http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...icon_smile.gif

here is an example:

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg

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