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Brad B. Hillebrand 08-29-2003 09:22 PM

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I just finished the engine and am looking for some criticism on it...Does it look O.K? What looks bad and what would you change...trying to get it as nce as possible...

Thanks!!!

Brad

Brad B. Hillebrand 08-29-2003 09:22 PM

I just finished the engine and am looking for some criticism on it...Does it look O.K? What looks bad and what would you change...trying to get it as nce as possible...

Thanks!!!

Brad

Brad B. Hillebrand 08-29-2003 09:23 PM

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and another....

Brad B. Hillebrand 08-29-2003 09:24 PM

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Another one

Brad B. Hillebrand 08-29-2003 09:25 PM

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Front side....

Brad B. Hillebrand 08-29-2003 09:26 PM

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And my STEALTH MSD firewall mounted box...most people miss it!!!!

goatseeker 08-29-2003 09:58 PM

Boy, hard to criticize something as clean as that!
Looks nice, but how does she run!? http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...on_biggrin.gif

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b-man 08-29-2003 10:09 PM

What's not to like? http://forums.performanceyears.com/g.../icon_cool.gif

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Rugratman 08-30-2003 10:31 AM

Damn, Brad no wonder it's taking so long to finish.
Looks awesome.
Are you going for the stock look ?
You have a stroker in her right ?

Beware of those mud puddles http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...on_biggrin.gif

Brad B. Hillebrand 08-30-2003 10:37 AM

Thanks!!! Yea, it's a stoker!!! I was going stock look but some things I had to change....the intake, carb, radiator and exhaust is not original..It's running as it should now and I'm still working on the dash.....


Brad

Rugratman 08-30-2003 01:16 PM

What kind of radiator did you use ?

did you build your stroker ?

Bill H 08-30-2003 03:03 PM

Engine looks great http://forums.performanceyears.com/g.../icon_cool.gif, I just have one question. Why do you have two oil fill caps, one on each valve cover? You need to fire that puppy up and burn off some paint,it's too clean http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...on_biggrin.gif http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...on_biggrin.gif

Brad B. Hillebrand 08-30-2003 06:22 PM

The 2 breathers sort of balanced the engine I thought and it puts out 613hp, so some extra breathing room only helps....I don't like the way the spacers look to much but I had to clear the rollers, still looks more "stock" than the aftermarkets I thought....

Brad

Brad B. Hillebrand 08-30-2003 06:25 PM

Radiator is a Rodney Red - Highly recommend!! Yes, I built the engine myself but didn't do the heads or balancing and machine work...left that to the guys with the good tools!!

Brad

ucmaddoc 08-30-2003 06:37 PM

Hey Bill,

Take the air cleaner off and give us a shot of the carb and from the rear if possible. It looks great!

ontheblocks 08-30-2003 06:41 PM

That's a sweet looking engine! If it was mine, I would look at finding/fabricating a different throttle cable bracket, it was the only thing that stuck out, on an otherwise outstanding job!

Do you have any sound recordings?? Would love to hear it run! http://forums.performanceyears.com/g.../icon_cool.gif

If it has ti*s or tires, it's gonna cost ya!

6t7goat 09-01-2003 06:08 AM

Awsome!!! I'd be proud of That motor. Do those valve cover spacers seal well? It would suck to have oil leaking on that fine lookin engine.

Brad B. Hillebrand 09-01-2003 07:29 AM

So far the seals work well, no leaks!! The gaskets are Felpro "rubber cork" and they come out too far but I didn't want to cut them, later I might use tube sealant to hide it better....

Thanks for all the input, I'll need to work on the bracket..

Brad

myoldgoat 09-01-2003 07:37 AM

Looks great....Can you paint the spacers so same color as the block to hide em and trim the gasket may make it harder to tell. If your not going for completely stock look how about a one wire alternator so you can get rid of the voltage regualtor and some under hood wireing. Really looks nice wish mine looked that good.

vidguy 09-01-2003 05:57 PM

.......awesome...... no criticisms here...!!!

James Fasso
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'67 GTO Conv
"I told my parents I wanted to be a comedian
-But they just laughed at me"

Rugratman 09-02-2003 08:45 AM

Is the radiator cap the correct type, Is there a pressure release for it ? Looks like a screw on cap.
Is the alternator bracket supposed to be painted ? Mine is blue, is that correct ?
Do you have the fan guard for the top of the radiator ?

I like the fact that you hide the MSD, I am not a big fan of that bright ass thing in the engine compartment.

engineer 09-02-2003 11:32 AM

bolt too long on alternator top bracket, where is PCV and battery negative cable on the block? Two breathers will be a problem with PCV system.

staibi 09-02-2003 12:32 PM

Have you considered a K&N air filter?

Brad B. Hillebrand 09-02-2003 02:40 PM

The cap is 15lbs RC95 that RR sends with his radiators, the original 15lb cap didn't work for me. The Alt. bracket is supposed to be 60 degree black, I had mine silver cad plated instead...does it look bogus?

Brad

Brad B. Hillebrand 09-02-2003 02:42 PM

What fan guard Rugratman?

Brad

Brad B. Hillebrand 09-02-2003 02:44 PM

The Alt bolt is the original, or so I thought..I'll check that out. The negative battery cable is bolted to the front of the driver side head. No PVC system.....
I like the K&N but trying to stay are original as possible.....

Thanks!!

Brad

Rugratman 09-03-2003 06:20 AM

The gaurd goes on top of the radiator and extends over the fan. It has a hole in one side where the cap comes through. It also covers the the top Radiator bracket. I think it gives a much better finish in the engine/ core support area. In Py's catalog its on page 4-36 RPE. Maybe you just have not put it on yet.
It will need 4 cage nuts 3/8's ,I believe to mount it to the core support.
I guess my alternator bracket is wrong too. I like the blue, you do not see it. I kinda blends in.
One ore question. I put a new hood latch assembly on her and are they supposed to be gold cad or painted black ?

Brad B. Hillebrand 09-03-2003 07:46 AM

Oh, O.K, I think that's the guard if you do not use a shroud....

The hood latch assembly has a few colors. The coil, top and bottom ring are supposed to be silver cad, the bolt thru the coil is black, 60 degree. The hook latch is gold cad and the mount to the hood is gold cad......

Brad

Rugratman 09-03-2003 10:49 AM

Actually I have mine on with the shroud on also.
It looks much nicer than that top radiator brace.
How the hell am I supposed to paint the bolt black ? You know, I got the new latch assembly put on and the safety catch actually sits back too far, about an inch towards the motor than what it should be. I think when my paint man took the hood off and laid it down, it bent the bolt inside the spring. The hood would not latch. I think I am going to put the old catch back on. I think I am going to paint them all black to go with the rest of the underside of my hood.

What color is your car ? Looks like a bright red to me. I just painted mine torch red.

Brad B. Hillebrand 09-03-2003 11:01 AM

Yes, Torch Red, 95'. Cool color....
The bolt unscrews from the coil, mine was a little tough to get turned at first but a little lube and it breaks free...

Brad

Brad B. Hillebrand 09-03-2003 11:02 AM

Can you send a picture of your shroud setup?

Brad

Rugratman 09-04-2003 06:34 AM

I'm sorry, but I do not have a digital camera yet, I'm gonna get one here in the next few weeks.
Joe, was looking for a photo for the drivers panel for the remote mirror and window crank measurements too.

I might have an old photo of the car before it was restored with it on there, I will look through my old files. I will then have to figure out how to post it. Maybe I can email it to you.

RPM 09-04-2003 08:13 AM

Nice looking engine and I like the stealth MSD box. I painted the tanks and sides of my Rodney Red to give the compartment more of a stock look. I didn't paint the radiator core so painting the tanks won't (and didn't) affect cooling. Besides that and what others mentioned it looks stealthy. Is that a 400 or 455? How is it built to get 600+ hp with iron heads?

67 GTO, 428, Q-Jet, TH400, 3.42, 12.50/107.5, whisper quiet
67 GTO, 400, Q-Jet, M20, 3.23, 14.02/98.7, loud & obnoxious

Brad B. Hillebrand 09-04-2003 08:38 AM

I'm sorry, that's 513 not 613...ops....613 would be nice thats for sure...it's a stroker with KRE heads. I was thinking of painting my tanks as well...any issues with it so far?

Brad

RPM 09-04-2003 09:56 AM

Issues with painting the radiator? No, paint still on mine. You have the updated tanks which are nicer. I also use and standard type radiator cap (again trying to look more stock than modded). 513 is still a good number http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...on_biggrin.gif . Solid roller cam I suppose and heads flow 250+?

67 GTO, 428, Q-Jet, TH400, 3.42, 12.50/107.5, whisper quiet
67 GTO, 400, Q-Jet, M20, 3.23, 14.02/98.7, loud & obnoxious

Brad B. Hillebrand 09-04-2003 11:18 AM

272 on the heads. With hyd roller cam, lifters and rockers. I tried the stock cap but it didn't fit right...that was also the time when I was having overheating issues...maybe I'll try it again as I don't care too much for the black cap either....


Brad

Blackfoot 09-04-2003 10:38 PM

Nice looking engine Bill. I read comments about your throttle cable assembly. Here's a pic of mine. Lokar cable and throttle bracket. About $40. Nice clean set up. I bought mine from Paul Spotts. If you'd like some more pics and details on the installation your welcome to email me at home. Took about 45 minutes to install. Mark

I've got a babys brain and an old mans heart,..............

Blackfoot 09-04-2003 10:39 PM

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Duh?!? Here's the picture.

I've got a babys brain and an old mans heart,..............

Brad B. Hillebrand 09-05-2003 10:21 AM

That looks great, is that a performer RPM, looks like it?

Thanks

Brad

retrojoe 09-05-2003 11:00 PM

Brad, I hate to rain on your parade, but I think your engine stinks! It should be in my car that's why! http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...on_biggrin.gif I like your attention to detail! Very nice! http://forums.performanceyears.com/g.../icon_cool.gif

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Blackfoot 09-06-2003 01:33 AM

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Thanks Bill and sorry it took me so long to get back to you. No thats not a performer RPM. Its an old Holley Street Dominator thats been bead blasted. If your going to run one of those after market fan shrouds, Make sure that the C nuts that they they send you with the shroud have threads in them. One of mine did't have threads tapped in it but the bolt went through. My first run down the road the bolt dropped out and the fan sucked the shroud into the fan blade destroying both. Fortunately it didn't touch the Rodney. Here's another pic. Keep 'em fast and shiny!

I've got a babys brain and an old mans heart,..............

Blackfoot 09-06-2003 01:38 AM

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Sorry about that. I guess I better get to bed and get some sleep. Here's the pic I wanted to post. Go with the dual breather caps. It looks okay to me. http://forums.performanceyears.com/g.../icon_wink.gif

I've got a babys brain and an old mans heart,..............

Bill H 09-07-2003 12:41 PM

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Brad, if you don't like the way your radiator cap looks get a billet one from Jerry at RR. I ordered one the same time I ordered my RR, it's pretty http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...on_biggrin.gif

ontheblocks 09-07-2003 06:11 PM

Blackfoot,

Do you have a part number on that Lokar braket?? I'd like to get one, my 2BBL modified isn't what I want on my manifold, only one bolt holding it right now!

If it has ti*s or tires, it's gonna cost ya!

Blackfoot 09-10-2003 10:11 PM

Sorry Larry H. so long to get back to you. Email Paul Spotts about the bracket. I bought mine from him and I'm sure he probably has the numbers memorized and probably can even sell you one. Paul turned me onto the idea and it does work well.

I've got a babys brain and an old mans heart,..............

Brad B. Hillebrand 09-12-2003 07:45 AM

I've been working with Paul to get the part number....man he's busy. He sent me this information and wanted to see the picture so I sent him the link here...Blackfoot, looks like Paul might use your photo...cool

TCB01 cable bracket stainless $26 in stock
TC01 throttle cable - universal - $39 in stock

do you have the link from the PY board so we can steal the photo?

Paul

Brad B. Hillebrand 09-12-2003 07:50 AM

Bill, that looks real nice....thanks..

Brad


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