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Wareagle 11-29-2009 04:07 PM

4 Police Officers lost -shot -Washington State
 
So sad -watching it live -whats wrong with people .

guccieng 11-29-2009 04:31 PM

i haven't seen the news yet, but that sounds like some kind of 'gang intitiation' to me.

Scarebird 11-29-2009 04:37 PM

How many wannabees can walk up to four armed policeman and shoot all four dead? According to the PI, this was the work of a black man, 20-30's, 5-7 to 5 10. I would be quite surprised if he had no military training, ie. infantry minimum. This is within spitting distance of Fort Lewis.

62Lemans 11-29-2009 06:56 PM

Maybe they didnt shoot back for fear of being prosecuted by the 'politically correct'.

Over in Connecticut, right now, theres an officer Lawlor being prosecuted by Conn.
bureaucrats for shooting a black man who had a semi-auto pistol and was attempting
to ram an ATF agent with his car while the passenger was trying to pick a weapon up
from the floor of the car presumably to shoot officer Lawlor.

A.W.Dille 11-29-2009 07:07 PM

After witnessing firsthand the dangers of what police officers face and being shot at (no I am not with the police) I have more respect about what they do and what they go through and anyone that shoots any law enforcement officer either should be shot on sight with no questions asked or put at the head of the line for the death sentence and fried immediately.

70ram4 11-29-2009 08:22 PM

May God rest their souls and a prayer for their families, and may the person(s) that did this die face down in the gutter like the dogs they are.



http://news.aol.com/article/4-police...bush-at/678280

Formula8 11-30-2009 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 62Lemans (Post 3835545)
Maybe they didnt shoot back for fear of being prosecuted by the 'politically correct'.

Over in Connecticut, right now, theres an officer Lawlor being prosecuted by Conn.
bureaucrats for shooting a black man who had a semi-auto pistol and was attempting
to ram an ATF agent with his car while the passenger was trying to pick a weapon up
from the floor of the car presumably to shoot officer Lawlor.

OK, what does that have to do with the topic that started the post? Here is a link for others to decide for themselves: http://www.ct.gov/csao/cwp/view.asp?A=1802&Q=314666 I know little about the case but the facts to date are that no gun was ever found and the ATF officer testified that he did not see one. He testified that he did not feel his life was in danger at any time. It appears the driver was attempting to flee as both the AFT officer and Lawlor were on the driver and passenger sides respectively.

Anyway, right now, I don't see the point of guessing what happened in the Washington case. It is tragic when anyone loses their life to violence and as the facts emerge wouldn't it be more appropriate to weigh in then?

bdk1976 11-30-2009 02:30 AM

This hits close to home, as I grew up in Lakewood and went to college in Parkland.

Here is the sh!tstain they are looking for....should be rotting in a Arkansas prison, but Gov. Huckabee felt sorry for the waste of skin and set him free.

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/crime...times-reports/

62Lemans 11-30-2009 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Formula8 (Post 3835917)
OK, what does that have to do with the topic that started the post? Here is a link for others to decide for themselves: http://www.ct.gov/csao/cwp/view.asp?A=1802&Q=314666 I know little about the case but the facts to date are that no gun was ever found and the ATF officer testified that he did not see one. He testified that he did not feel his life was in danger at any time. It appears the driver was attempting to flee as both the AFT officer and Lawlor were on the driver and passenger sides respectively.

I was answering this entry but thanks for the info. That means the LELDF is trying to scam people out of donations for the Lawlor defense fund!!

My apologies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarebird (Post 3835440)
How many wannabees can walk up to four armed policeman and shoot all four dead? According to the PI, this was the work of a black man, 20-30's, 5-7 to 5 10. I would be quite surprised if he had no military training, ie. infantry minimum. This is within spitting distance of Fort Lewis.


Brian Baker 11-30-2009 11:02 AM

Suspect is Black. $50 says he's Muslim.

Mattman 11-30-2009 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Baker (Post 3836159)
Suspect is Black. $50 says he's Muslim.

Stunning that the first stat was correct. I heard on the radio that he was out on bail for just this past week for sexual assault of a child. What is are judicial system thinking!


P.S. All future post will be in the Club House.

71 T/A 11-30-2009 11:41 AM

Yet another reason why you have to be insane to be a cop these days.

JackF 11-30-2009 01:34 PM

Latest news is he is a 37 yo. black man out on bail with 8? felony counts. The officers didn't go down without a fight. One fired back from the table and another one made it outside and struggled with him and died there. God rest there souls. I like Huckabee but I would like to know the story behind commuting his 95 year sentence after 11 years. What ever the reason it was a terrible move. Could it have been pressure from the black community to release this poor black man who was being persecuted? I'm sure the dems will get to the bottom of it. In any case I think it is the end of his pos. run for prez. in 2012.

Jack.

455_PWR 11-30-2009 01:52 PM

Have to be insane to be a cop? Guess I'm insane then lol.... it may be dangerous but it's a rewarding career (not very 'monetarily' rewarding however...). Truth is a lot of officers get into their rutine and let their guard down. I don't blame the officers however, I mean who would ever expect to get shot getting coffee with their friends in a public place at the beginning of their shift?

Grant Miller 11-30-2009 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackF (Post 3836274)
I'm sure the dems will get to the bottom of it. In any case I think it is the end of his pos. run for prez. in 2012.

Jack.

I'm wondering what the logic is behind this? It seems out of context.

PMDJIM 11-30-2009 03:03 PM

I don't want to make light of the subject of anyone dying ( except for the scumbag shooter), and I certainly don't know anything about being a police officer. What are they doing sitting in a coffee shop if their shift started? Isn't that what a squad room is for/ to recieve assignments and plan for the day. Sounds like they had a routine and the scumbag knew it.

fastgto 11-30-2009 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Baker (Post 3836159)
Suspect is Black. $50 says he's Muslim.

Your probabley right Mr. B. I hope the cops catch him, turn OFF there video machines and then pull his eyes out.

fastgto 11-30-2009 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PMDJIM (Post 3836359)
I don't want to make light of the subject of anyone dying ( except for the scumbag shooter), and I certainly don't know anything about being a police officer. What are they doing sitting in a coffee shop if their shift started? Isn't that what a squad room is for/ to recieve assignments and plan for the day. Sounds like they had a routine and the scumbag knew it.

Having a coffee and a donut, who the fuk cares WHY they were there. Sometimes I go into our lunch room early, real early if I can. Again who the FUK cares. Four guys gunned down
and the question is, Why were they in the coffee shop. Don`t take it the wrong way sir,
but you should get some kind of award for asking that question. You asked the question,
now there is nothing you can say to ward off the peoples thinking of you. Most likey that place was or is there lunch room.

PMDJIM 11-30-2009 03:28 PM

Wow Fast, Tell me how you really feel. I was just curious. I don't know how big the city is where this happened. But if it's a small town that a good percentage of the force lost. Don't get me wrong, I hope when they do find the shooter they show him little mercy.

JLHarper 11-30-2009 03:51 PM

Nothing but mistakes regarding this guy:

He served 11 years on a 95 year sentence in AR at 17y.o.

Gets commuted sentence by Huckabee.

Back inside the slammer for parole violation 3+ years later.

Second degree rape of a child and posts a $150,000 bond.
Wonder where he got the $15,000 he had to chip in?
Assualt on LEO, as well.

Other charges in WA including making wife and young relatives strip naked.

Walking around telling others he was Jesus.

Sounds like fourth officer may have shot him, mortally from earlier reports today.

Jeff

Scarebird 11-30-2009 04:04 PM

I wonder if this was a Camlann-type incident? Guy goes to get a coffee (must have missed all those cop cars in front), barista spots illegal gun and freaks - deadly mayhem ensues.

Bjorn 11-30-2009 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLHarper (Post 3836411)
Nothing but mistakes regarding this guy:

He served 11 years on a 95 year sentence in AR at 17y.o.

Gets commuted sentence by Huckabee.

Back inside the slammer for parole violation 3+ years later.

Second degree rape of a child and posts a $150,000 bond.
Wonder where he got the $15,000 he had to chip in?
Assualt on LEO, as well.

Other charges in WA including making wife and young relatives strip naked.

Walking around telling others he was Jesus.

Sounds like fourth officer may have shot him, mortally from earlier reports today.

Jeff

I really hope thats correct....I had the hardest time believing that 4 officers ,with their training, could get shot and killed by one guy wih one gun! Someone or a couple had to be able to return fire....

70ram4 11-30-2009 04:59 PM

So when is Al Sharpton coming to protest for the officers and their families? Just wondering why his fat greasy $1,000 suit wearing ass isnt there now.

Brian Baker 11-30-2009 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70ram4 (Post 3836489)
So when is Al Sharpton coming to protest for the officers and their families? Just wondering why his fat greasy $1,000 suit wearing ass isnt there now.

You KNOW why he isn't there...there's no money to be made for him there. Now if all 4 cops were Black and the perp' were White, he'd be outside that coffee shop right now with his bullhorn, rallying his troops.

guccieng 11-30-2009 05:29 PM

why is anyone surprised that this guy got off 4 (or more) shots? the police officers were presumably right next to each other and attacked with no warning. two of them were probably not even facing their attacker. anyone with a 10 round mag and the element of surprise can easily do what he did, and without any previous professional training.

Bjorn 11-30-2009 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guccieng (Post 3836521)
why is anyone surprised that this guy got off 4 (or more) shots? the police officers were presumably right next to each other and attacked with no warning. two of them were probably not even facing their attacker. anyone with a 10 round mag and the element of surprise can easily do what he did, and without any previous professional training.

well, I am surprised...but the witnesses may clear it up for me...unless he walked right up to them , and was standing right behind or really close by , so he was able to pull his one gun on them at very close range...I dont think an untrained guy can shoot 4 armed , trained officers that easily...
one or two of them would have reacted, thrown themselves to the side/down while pulling weapon(s)....maybe one did?
I certainly hope so.

bdk1976 11-30-2009 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn (Post 3836527)
well, I am surprised...but the witnesses may clear it up for me...unless he walked right up to them , and was standing right behind or really close by , so he was able to pull his one gun on them at very close range...I dont think an untrained guy can shoot 4 armed , trained officers that easily...
one or two of them would have reacted, thrown themselves to the side/down while pulling weapon(s)....maybe one did?
I certainly hope so.

I might suggesting reading up on what actually happened before making any other speculative posts.

JLHarper 11-30-2009 07:13 PM

Its all been reported in the news.......

As of this AM in article I read.

Wareagle 12-01-2009 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 455_PWR (Post 3836297)
Have to be insane to be a cop? Guess I'm insane then lol.... it may be dangerous but it's a rewarding career (not very 'monetarily' rewarding however...). Truth is a lot of officers get into their rutine and let their guard down. I don't blame the officers however, I mean who would ever expect to get shot getting coffee with their friends in a public place at the beginning of their shift?

Yes -they were probably totally surprised -like what happened to the 4 RCMP officers that were gunned down in Alberta -beyond comprehension .

Mattman 12-01-2009 09:26 AM

Good,he is dead. Why the heck would people want to help and or hide this guy? Oh ya,I know why. Brothaly love.

Jeff Hamlin 12-01-2009 12:43 PM

Gunned down like the POS he was
 
Dead indeed:clap2:, IMO there should be no other option.
One less sc*mbag tying up the system... NEXT!

JackF 12-01-2009 12:58 PM

And
 
The police have 3? family members and or friends in custody with more on the way. they hope to have 7 or 8 people in custody when all is said and done for aiding and hiding this Scum Bag. As I am typing this the police announced they have 5 now in custody. It is reported that some of these people gave false tips to the police to lead them away from the from the now dead SOB.

Jack.

Grant Miller 12-01-2009 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Baker (Post 3836159)
Suspect is Black. $50 says he's Muslim.

What's the verdict on this? I'm thinking he wasn't Muslim because he was telling everyone he was Jesus, but I haven't heard for sure yet.

JackF 12-01-2009 04:57 PM

"They" wouldn't say even if he was, it wouldn't be "PC".

Jack.

65Mark 12-01-2009 10:05 PM

They are charging one of his cohorts with murder, he drove the pickup to take the guy there and to escape knowing what the bastard was going to do.

Formula8 12-01-2009 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackF (Post 3837554)
"They" wouldn't say even if he was, it wouldn't be "PC".

Jack.

yeah, probably a secret conspiracy to hide muslims involved in killings.....I must have missed that one.

JackF 12-01-2009 10:29 PM

Formula,

I don't know if he is or isn't. All I'm saying is if he is it won't be mentioned in the MSM as it isn't PC to insult muslims.

Jack.

Brian Baker 12-02-2009 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grant Miller (Post 3837515)
What's the verdict on this? I'm thinking he wasn't Muslim because he was telling everyone he was Jesus, but I haven't heard for sure yet.

Maybe I'm out $50 then?;) Sure would have fit the template for 99.9% of all angry Black men that have been incarcerated though, wouldn't it.

Grant Miller 12-02-2009 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Baker (Post 3838178)
Sure would have fit the template for 99.9% of all angry Black men that have been incarcerated though, wouldn't it.

I really doubt it. Where are you getting your statistics?

Formula8 12-03-2009 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackF (Post 3837887)
Formula,

I don't know if he is or isn't. All I'm saying is if he is it won't be mentioned in the MSM as it isn't PC to insult muslims.

Jack.

What planet do you live on? First off, the guy shot four officers in cold blood. I don't think you could insult the guy enough. Second, if he were a Muslim, it would be on every news source and make the rotation endlessly as a terrorist attack. I do not know where you are finding anyone hiding the fact when a Muslim is involved in a murder such as this that he was a Muslim. The irony is that now that we know evidently the SOB was not a Muslim, nobody cares what religion he is. If anything, the only time a murderer's religion becomes an issue is when he is a Muslim. I am not defending the issue, just pointing out the irony in your assertion.


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