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scottz 03-17-2010 10:32 AM

1979 10th Anniversary Trans Am 4 speed Survivor $25,000
 
It's a 4-speed TATA with 28,716 miles.

Runs great. Distributor was recurved by Rocky Rotella, current carb (electric choke, not currently hooked up) was a Cliff Ruggles job and the original carb (not on car but included) was redone by Cliff as well. I've done all the fluids (trans, radiator, diff, and oil obviously), plugs, wires. I replaced the dead original power antenna with a unit rebuilt by TAC member Olds403. Radio and 8-track work but AM band doesn't seem to be able to tune to a station. Comes with original mirrored t-tops and leather t-top bags. Also includes compact spare, jack and inflator bottle. Just put in a new battery last fall as the old one died due to the car sitting for quite a while between drives.

The shaker is cut open. The original exhaust was replaced with a true-dual setup with Flowmaster mufflers with dual high-flow catalytic converters to pass emissions. I added the cats, the rest of the setup was in place when I got the car. I replaced the fan clutch with a new unit as the car was originally running hot. Turned out to be that the radiator was pretty gunked up but I flushed it. With the clean radiator and new fan clutch the car no longer runs hot.

AC blows cold but the air only trickles out the top vents. The defroster works so I know it's not a vacuum issue. Since only the AC vents don't work too well, my guess is that the AC duct work might be leaking somewhere in the dash.

The only other issue I know of is that the parking brake cable needs to be adjusted as it won't hold the car on an incline.

The paint has some issues that are highlighted in the pics below. The pics are from last summer but the car looks the same. If somebody is interested that can't come and see the car in person, I can take some new pics and/or video, but it'll look the same as it does in these pics :)

NADA says avg retail is $32,670. I'm asking $25,000.

Pics can be seen here.

If you're interested in coming to see the car or have any questions about it, PM me or shoot me an email at [email protected]

Scott

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...olots/tata.jpg

scottz 03-22-2010 01:30 PM

Just looking for some feedback. Are the 10th cars no longer desirable or is it just mine?

PMDJIM 03-22-2010 02:02 PM

It may be your asking pice.

Jim Robertson 03-23-2010 12:29 AM

I am in the same boat with you Scott. 10th An 44,000 miles all original and no one even looking...most are selling theirs to move on to something else or to pay some bills. The economy sucks; all musclecars have taken a hit. It appears now that many 10th cars were stored and thus the survival rate among the 7500 units is very high. Many are still around so if anyone is in the market they can wait for the ultra low mileage deal...leaving you, I and other 10th owners with nice cars that do not even get a second glance. Enjoy it or possibly fire sale it for about $15K. Neat car best of luck.
Jim

Aaron's65Tripower 04-15-2010 05:08 PM

Like Jim said my guess is it's the economy, and the muscle car market has taken a big hit. I've got a TATA as well with around 14,000 miles, though I'm not sure I'd ever sell it, I had it since I was 16 too many great memories attached to it! Good luck with your sale, it's a great looking car, just enjoy it in the mean time.

Aaron's65Tripower 04-15-2010 05:28 PM

Reading this prompted me to check ebay.. There were several TATA's there, one With 5000 miles on it was at $25,000, and another with 50,000+ mile was at $18,500.


Maybe you should list it there? Again good luck

Afsocwes 04-16-2010 01:10 AM

Car pricing
 
You should list it on eBay with say a 25K reserve. And see what the market is willing to pay. If the top bidder comes close. You can always contact them after the auction is over.

It will cost you for listing. But if it doesnt sell. You wont have to give eBay a cut.

scottz 04-27-2010 12:35 PM

Thanks for the ideas guys. I may just try the Ebay thing.

BTW, still available in case anyone is interested. ;)

scottz 05-18-2010 11:31 AM

I've decided to drop the asking price to $22,000. Please contact me if interested.

Scott

p.s. If anybody has any ideas on how to edit the thread title to reflect the new price please let me know. I can't seem to figure it out.

Aaron's65Tripower 06-02-2010 06:17 PM

Any luck yet?

scottz 05-13-2011 09:04 AM

Bringing back an old thread. Just wondering if there's any interest a year later...

Aaron's65Tripower 05-19-2011 06:51 AM

Did you try ebay? Good luck with your sale.

Larry Navarro 05-19-2011 08:07 AM

I think more folks have leaned toward the other 4 speed cars, especially the Y84 special edition t/a-6.6.
If there's an original, low mileage survivor, one could bet that it will sell faster and for a bit more money than a TATA.
Folks like those "smokey" cars, plus the fact that they are very limited in production.

bonneville Joe 05-19-2011 10:23 AM

Just for comparisons. The mileage is a bit higher and I think this guy might be asking just a bit much too. Probably a $12k car if it's super nice.

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/2387538804.html

scottz 05-19-2011 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron's65Tripower (Post 4322168)
Did you try ebay? Good luck with your sale.

Nope.Trying to avoid Ebay. Even though that's how I bought it, I'd rather deal with a sale to a member of a smaller community. Having never sold a used car before, I'm reluctant for my first to be via Ebay.

maybe I'm just paranoid...

Father&Son73T/A 05-21-2011 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottz (Post 4322464)
Nope.Trying to avoid Ebay. Even though that's how I bought it, I'd rather deal with a sale to a member of a smaller community. Having never sold a used car before, I'm reluctant for my first to be via Ebay.

maybe I'm just paranoid...

No,you're not,you must be vigilant when selling on Epay.
You have a nice car,desirable,but market is low,not you or your cars fault.If you can hold out till the economy picks up:rolleyes:...maybe the "messiah" in the white house can fix everything:D

scottz 07-07-2011 08:17 AM

New price: $20,000 firm. Contact me for any add'l details.

Thanks...Scott

rennellTA 11-01-2011 06:26 PM

1979 TATA...4-speed
 
Scott,

Not sure if you still have the car. I own an original survivor, 8,500 mile TATA, 4-speed. I am 3rd owner. Frankly, the market has impacted the collector car values. That said, some 79 TATAs sold this year (2011) for $50k, $31k, $85k (6.7 mile 4-speed). Another sold out of MD in the $30k range.

Also, recent Mecum-Dallas auction, Jim Mattison (PHS) sold his 79 TA, 4-speed for $30k.

I have mine up for sale, asking $35k OBO. Bottom line, the TATA, 4-speed is a $30k value, period.

Tom

455Grandville 11-01-2011 07:13 PM

Niiiiiiiiiiice and it's a 400 too -

rennellTA 11-01-2011 07:39 PM

1979 TATA-4-speed market values
 
I do not claim to be an expert. However, based on my research, the '79' TATAs with
L78, W72, WS6 codes, low mileage, original, documented are selling in the low $30k range. Clearly, the uncertain economy has impacted most everything in our lives, including the collector car market. That said, recent Mecum auction results continue to support the collector car enthusiast market is still alive and well, and asking/selling prices have throttled back to a level that allows many to participate. We all know, PMD is gone, Firebird is gone. IMO.....Original, low mileage TAs will continue to maintain reasonable value levels, and improve along with an improved economy and consumer confidence. Yes, a waiting game. God knows, I am not the most patient guy...!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 455Grandville (Post 4455355)
Niiiiiiiiiiice and it's a 400 too -


Father&Son73T/A 11-01-2011 07:58 PM

Buddy of mine sold about 4 months ago a W72 TATA with 1900 miles,absolutely mint, for 38.5k

rennellTA 11-01-2011 10:41 PM

another point of reference, regarding values for 1979 TATA, L78, W72, WS6, low mileage original survivors....! Sure, many can argue the '79' Y84, W72, WS6 TAs has lower production #s (i.e. approx. 1,200). Well, 1,817 '79' TATA, W72 is still considered low production. No way of confirming (and I asked Jim Mattison) exact #s of high quality, original surviors still exist.

Either way, both are very low production car's, hence their desirability with Pontiac enthusiasts.

Mine is for SALE....$34k OBO. She is a no less than $30k car, all day long. Of course, the old adage, "only worth what someone is willing to pay."

Tom

rennellTA 11-02-2011 08:59 AM

4 months ago, the value of unmolested, low mileage, survivor, W72, WS6 TAs were different than value's today. IMO, the value's (due to the whims of the economy) have pulled back a bit. That said, $28-35k (dependent on model, equipment, condition, documentation, mileage) is the current norm. Of course, we are in off-season mode, so that adds to the slow movement of these car's. Again, IMO.

By the way, I cannot stress enough, the value associated with unmolested, original, low mileage survivors, with proper documentation. I place a slightly higher value to these car's, than frame-on or frame-off restored car's. As the old saying goes, "only original once".....!

Father&Son73T/A 11-02-2011 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rennellTA (Post 4455824)
4 months ago, the value of unmolested, low mileage, survivor, W72, WS6 TAs were different than value's today. IMO, the value's (due to the whims of the economy) have pulled back a bit. That said, $28-35k (dependent on model, equipment, condition, documentation, mileage) is the current norm. Of course, we are in off-season mode, so that adds to the slow movement of these car's. Again, IMO.

By the way, I cannot stress enough, the value associated with unmolested, original, low mileage survivors, with proper documentation. I place a slightly higher value to these car's, than frame-on or frame-off restored car's. As the old saying goes, "only original once".....!

...........I completely agree withyour statement on unmolested low mile survivor TA's,especially the 77-79 W72's,..........now the 70-73 bad boys are a whole nother ball of wax,or should I say,.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$;)

scottz 11-03-2011 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rennellTA (Post 4455595)
Of course, the old adage, "only worth what someone is willing to pay."

That's exactly where I come down on this. If nobody wants it then it can't be worth anywhere near the prices that people are thinking that is should be worth.

I've still got the car and don't need to dump it at a rock-bottom price so it just sits parked in the garage most of the time. It'll be going up on jackstands for the winter soon. At least I'll be forced to get out and drive it once more to fill up the tank with fresh gas & fuel stabilizer.

Scott

rennellTA 11-03-2011 12:23 PM

Scott,

IMO...molested, altered, modified TATAs will most likely be looked at differently than original, survivor, unmolested TATAs. Hence, the price points will differ.

Tom

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottz (Post 4456757)
That's exactly where I come down on this. If nobody wants it then it can't be worth anywhere near the prices that people are thinking that is should be worth.

I've still got the car and don't need to dump it at a rock-bottom price so it just sits parked in the garage most of the time. It'll be going up on jackstands for the winter soon. At least I'll be forced to get out and drive it once more to fill up the tank with fresh gas & fuel stabilizer.

Scott


scottz 11-12-2011 11:44 AM

Somebody was asking for interior pics so I uploaded some to my Flickr account.

Father&Son73T/A 11-12-2011 11:56 AM

Tom[/QUOTE]

Just an opinion,but I have been told not store these cars on jack stands,not good for the subframe...yes the issue of tire rot and flat spots..........leave on ground with carpet remnents under tires,I have a piece the size of the car on my garage concrete floor,never had a problem and did it for years,JMHO.

scottz 11-12-2011 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Father&Son73T/A (Post 4464672)

Just an opinion,but I have been told not store these cars on jack stands,not good for the subframe...yes the issue of tire rot and flat spots..........leave on ground with carpet remnents under tires,I have a piece the size of the car on my garage concrete floor,never had a problem and did it for years,JMHO.


Thanks for the tip. Certainly makes putting it away for the winter and getting ready for spring much easier :)

Wayne79T/A 11-26-2011 12:25 AM

Larry, Still smokin rubber with your old 455 HO.,,,,, Lookin for a auto a/c car,,,,might trade the 79T/A 4sp. Later Wayne

GTOLou 12-08-2011 10:47 PM

I kinda think these are a little funny as collector cars. I've got one - a 400/4speed TATA. Not as nice as yours.


They didn't make many of these - but they were expensive and a significant percentage of the ones that were made were protected and put away. Hence, they are low production, but really not super rare. I think this hurts the price. Just, MHO.

scottz 02-28-2012 02:45 PM

In case anyone might be looking, the car is still available.

Don 79 TA 02-29-2012 08:11 AM

I think the economy has something to do with it as well as price
sometimes i often ask myself are these cars really worth their price???? especially when you don't know the person or about the car, it's a gamble, at least in my eyes

let's face it... these new cars now as just simply awesome when you think about it
i LOVE the older cars, but man if you don't have connections now-a-days for things like paint, engines, trans, etc... it's expensive
add into that the possiblity if you lost your job

me... when i see these cars i'm in love with them, but for the $$ when it comes down to it, things like a C6 vette start hitting that price range

however, keep in mind... there are ALOT of people out there with $$
also season's play a part too
remember its still winter, the spring time bug hasn't hit

looks like a nice car though
kindda hard to not want to molest it which we know devalues the car

scottz 02-29-2012 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don 79 TA (Post 4565708)
me... when i see these cars i'm in love with them, but for the $$ when it comes down to it, things like a C6 vette start hitting that price range

If you see a C6 Vette for $20k please let me know :)

lumarkhood 02-29-2012 01:59 PM

Scott,

Haven't you had this car at the Nats a time or two?

Thought I remembered some people I know saying they had seen the car in person, and it's "as described."

Good luck with the sale.

Mark

scottz 02-29-2012 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumarkhood (Post 4565990)
Scott,

Haven't you had this car at the Nats a time or two?

Thought I remembered some people I know saying they had seen the car in person, and it's "as described."

Good luck with the sale.

Mark

Nope, wasn't me. I haven't had the pleasure of attending.

Father&Son73T/A 02-29-2012 05:39 PM

Your gonna sell your W72 TATA for a Bic lighter?

Don 79 TA 03-02-2012 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottz (Post 4565807)
If you see a C6 Vette for $20k please let me know :)

keep your eye
they are now in the upper 20s, know some that paid low 20's as well
as soon as the C7's come out, the 6's will start their tanking process even more, especially LS2 ones

i like my wife's 05 alot, which has tempted me to getting one, but i need one with gears, not an auto

not to mention, they are SUPER easy to work on and such an abundant aftermarket too

i still love my 79
but getting great quality parts is getting harder and harder to find
all these OEM restoration parts are junk (in my opinion especially compared to original oem)

i came so close to buying a museum 79 10th car last year, but glad we get her vette instead

scottz 04-08-2012 09:42 AM

TATA is still available if anyone's interested.


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