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webfoot 02-07-2011 06:11 PM

opinions on "cowl screen"
 
I am going back and forth over whether to put in the 68 metal mesh cowl screen or the plastic 69+ unit. Which do y'all prefer? I like the the 68 unit as a throwback piece cuz it seems kinda funny to me, but the 69+ unit looks much better IMO and I also think cheaper to install as those lil clips are expensive.

Car is all factory stuff but upgraded where I deemed it necessary, such adding as PDB and PS so I put this in the same category.

68gtoMN 02-07-2011 06:25 PM

Choose as you like. I keep all of mine as they were delivered in the visual category.

6869GTO 02-07-2011 08:29 PM

I vote for the screen. Most 69's had it as well. I personally don't like the look of the plastic on the 68's , but it is your car . Easy enough to swap either way.

goatman-68 02-07-2011 10:20 PM

I guess I am in the minority, I went with the plastic. I like the look of the plastic over the chicken wire, I think it looks cleaner............

thepontiacman 02-07-2011 11:37 PM

depends on whether you want original look or the later plastic . It's your car.

My 69 is original and has the screen.

Greg Reid 02-08-2011 07:52 AM

I'm keeping the screen. Actually, it's the lack of 'plastic stuff' on the '68 that causes me to slightly prefer it over the later models..as more and more plastic started showing up in the interiors and so on. The '68 is the perfect combination of old and new.

Andretti 02-08-2011 12:02 PM

I think a screen in good condition better matches the 68-9's. If you're lucky you may find blood stains from a prior mechanic on it too. :O

David Jones 02-08-2011 12:48 PM

I went with plastic on mine. The screen is currently on duty hanging on the wall.

brians 02-08-2011 01:09 PM

I’m for the screen, even though it once almost killed me.

I jabbed my finger with a broken wire from a screen years ago. Went in far enough that I had to actually pull it out of my finger. Some paper towel and electrical tape and went back to work. (Think I left the blood on the screen.) Shoot ahead 3-4 days and my finger started to really swell, so I decided to finally go to the doctor. He notices a faint red line going from my finger up my arm to my shoulder. Tells me if that gets to my heart I am probably dead. He pumped about 4 shots in me and I was on pills for a month.

Moral of the story – use the screen, but if you have one my old ones - paint over the blood. (and wear gloves) :D

webfoot 02-08-2011 01:20 PM

Wow, that is scary!

Never took the "plastic free-ness" of the 68 into account before. Plus, I get to show off the fancy wiper motor protector I restored!

goatman-68 02-08-2011 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by brians (Post 4232862)
I’m for the screen, even though it once almost killed me.

I jabbed my finger with a broken wire from a screen years ago. Went in far enough that I had to actually pull it out of my finger. Some paper towel and electrical tape and went back to work. (Think I left the blood on the screen.) Shoot ahead 3-4 days and my finger started to really swell, so I decided to finally go to the doctor. He notices a faint red line going from my finger up my arm to my shoulder. Tells me if that gets to my heart I am probably dead. He pumped about 4 shots in me and I was on pills for a month.

Moral of the story – use the screen, but if you have one my old ones - paint over the blood. (and wear gloves) :D

I bet those screens were Cadmium plated, and Cadmium is very poisonous I believe. Blood poisoning could have been the problem.

brians 02-08-2011 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by goatman-68 (Post 4232896)
I bet those screens were Cadmium plated, and Cadmium is very poisonous I believe. Blood poisoning could have been the problem.

Hmmm – never gave that any thought. Just figured it was the dirt getting pushed in.

On second thought – use the plastic!

lnorczen 02-08-2011 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by David Jones (Post 4232839)
I went with plastic on mine. The screen is currently on duty hanging on the wall.

I'm with David Jones. I have the original screen hanging in my garage while my car has the plastic repro. on it. The screen just looks like a cheap afterthought but unfortunately it is the original equipment from the factory on my car.

gn4u2c 02-08-2011 03:40 PM

Mine is a early 69 (10-69) and it has the metal mesh as original.

Greg Reid 02-08-2011 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by brians (Post 4232862)
I’m for the screen, even though it once almost killed me.

I jabbed my finger with a broken wire from a screen years ago. Went in far enough that I had to actually pull it out of my finger. Some paper towel and electrical tape and went back to work. (Think I left the blood on the screen.) Shoot ahead 3-4 days and my finger started to really swell, so I decided to finally go to the doctor. He notices a faint red line going from my finger up my arm to my shoulder. Tells me if that gets to my heart I am probably dead. He pumped about 4 shots in me and I was on pills for a month.

Moral of the story – use the screen, but if you have one my old ones - paint over the blood. (and wear gloves) :D

Every successful project of this type that I've ever completed had at least some of my blood in it. I don't mean like changing spark plugs but more like, restoring a car... I don't try to do it but as soon as it happens...I kinda think..."Hey, this is going to turn out good"...LOL

GTO JOHN 02-09-2011 09:50 AM

If you want to keep the original look then go with the screen. Otherwise use whatever you like the best.

Personally, I like the plastic for looks but I still keep the screens on my "orginal" cars.

FWIW my black 69 GTO is an 06C Pontiac built car and had the plastic on it when I bought the car in 1994. I wonder if there was a late year switch to the plastic in '69?

Alex 02-09-2011 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Reid (Post 4233326)
Every successful project of this type that I've ever completed had at least some of my blood in it. I don't mean like changing spark plugs but more like, restoring a car... I don't try to do it but as soon as it happens...I kinda think..."Hey, this is going to turn out good"...LOL

I'm with Greg it's not a worth wile project unless there's BLOOD
Some pics of the original cowl screen
I used this original as a pattern and made about three of them out of some wire I bought at home depot.
Used one in the GTO and am getting ready to use the second in my Lemans project.

UPC-WU2 02-09-2011 03:58 PM

My 04B '69 Judge came with chicken wire.

Mark Simiele 02-10-2011 12:20 AM

I have never even seen a plastic screen on any 69 and as far as I know it wasnt even available until 1970 and up.

The chicken wire does look awful bad and quite primative. I got cut real good some years ago on it too but luckily no blood poisoning. I never liked it and its difficult to remove when cleaning under it as well.

If your going the correct/concours route then put the nasty screen in otherwise do the plastic.

Charlie Brengun 02-11-2011 03:45 AM

my '68 GTO isn't numbers matching so I'm not too concerned about originality. I didn't like the look of the chicken wire much so I put the plastic screens in. looks good IMO

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...O/IMG_4251.jpg

webfoot 02-11-2011 11:35 AM

Does the plastic one just snap in I take it?

Half-Inch Stud 02-11-2011 07:41 PM

pop the 3 plastic screens in. Hang the screen in the garage.

Mark Simiele 02-11-2011 10:28 PM

Looks nice! and no cut fingers either.

marauder 02-12-2011 09:16 PM

I'm far from stock so I went with the plastic inserts....


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