Look what followed me home yesterday!
 

I know its not a judge but this is a very cool Driveway find in my opinion. A good friend of mine told me about this car weeks ago and I didnt go look at it because I figured it was fake. Finally went and looked at it with low expectations and was really surprised at what I saw. Bought it hoping it was real and went soley on instinct and recieved a call yesterday from Jim Mattison and he confirmed what I was hoping I bought. A real 1969 Ram Air III GTO convertible!!! To boot its my favorite color of Crystal Turquoise with a white top and a Black interior. The option list is very cool. Ram Air III, Close Ratio 4spd 433 Special order axle HD rear,rally gauges with Hood tachometer,Custom sport wood wheel,Console with Factory 8 Track player And Steel wheels painted body color with Dog dish hubcaps.. Its a very nice car with very little rust from sitting for years. The interior is beautiful and the car has only 56,000 original miles.I have to try to get it running next week. Everything is there including the elusive 273 carb!! I am really pumped about doing this car up. Heres some pics from its tomb.......

You BASTARD! ;)

Get it running and drive it the way it is! I love it!

wow!...looks to be in decent shape, congrats!

Good one BOSS....Locating original steel wheels are on the menu!!!

Wow, what a find! I love all 69's, but that is a great one.

The best part of the story is I drove 150 miles to get it but it was sold new at Ted Rapp Pontiac in Riverton NJ which is only 10 miles from my house so its really a local car to me! The story I got was a woman from Jersey owned it new and used it to tow a sail boat. Dont know if thats true but there are holes in the rear bumper from where a tow hitch used to reside. You would think a car like this would have some gdrag history but if it does it must be in a stock class because the car still retains its original manifolds and exhaust system with only chambered pipes added where the mufflers would be. Still has original headpipes andTailpipes. Looks like a copo chevelle from the underside.

Very nice find! So, really it was as close to getting a Judge vert w/o stripes. Those grills look black, and spoiler fit fine....

of course the grills are black seeing that it is a 69 ram air car. out of curiosity, how can you tell that it came with the 4:33 instead of 3:90 based on the phs????
one of my favorite colors. congrats on the score. ps- is it a numbers matching car?

Glad to see you got one Don-another east coast trip would have killed me. Very nice looking ride.

Awesome find. Congrats!

too cool

I'm liking that even more! Parchment interior would have been KILLER!

Awesome find. Love the rusty old floor jack that was dragged from under the car and probably sitting there just as long!

Man very cool. Love the colors. I wish something like that would follow me home.

Wow
 

How to imagine how the car could sit outside? for all those years and look so good... Wow, that's a great one.

Mattison said it could be either one. I thought he knew by paperwork but he said no. I got under the car today and found the original XM stamp. What a great car!!!! I still cant belive someone ordered it this way.

The guy told me that the spoiler was put on it in the 80's.... I wonder if its an original one. The fit is perfect......

Ted Rapp is the same dealership my car was bought from in 1968. That a beautiful car I can't understand how somebody could leet something that nice sit in a driveway to rot away. Good find!!!!!!!

I know you had some awesome GTO's and plenty of experience so this one's gonna be a stunning car. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!

69 Ram air, vert, 4 speed, 4.33 gears, Crystal Turquoise loaded with the right options, its on my top ten list of Pontiac's I like to own.

Nice job Don!

Nice find Don !

Nice car. What does the near future hold for this car?

You owe your bud a few! Love to see pix of that original inside! Matching with close ratio gears too. Paint original??

Such a cool car. Love the way it was ordered... and that it's still all there.

The added spoiler looks "just right" on it, too.

X2! Nice score.

Thats a nice find!

Wanna trade? 69 #s JUDGE RAIII all there +/- $

Need anything? I have boxes of parts off a 69 I parted.

Jeff

Dang! What a find. Some guys have all the luck.

Congrats Don - Gorgeous car! Amazing that it had not already been snatched up by someone since it was sitting out in the open. Glad you found it and were able to make the deal. Bonus that it was what you suspected too. It would be cool to confirm the story you heard that a lady bought it and towed her sale boat with it. I can hear the salesman now suggestng those 4.33 gears for better towing - and thinking racing in the back of his mind! I bet with a good heavy sailboat hitched to it - you could pull the front wheels off the ground with those gears!

BJ

Sweet looking car! :)

Congrats Don! Your car is 1 of 175 Ram Air III manual transmission convertibles made in 1969. Super colors too.

Wow,very cool GTO. How long was it sitting outside?

John,

Your list keeps growing. 4 speed king...71 GTO details?

It was garaged until 4 years ago when the guy got divorced and lost his space. he had tarps tied all around it. Going to pull the engine next week and put in my 350 from the 72 i parted out. Cant get 200.00 dollars for it and it runs like a top. This way i will get to see how this car drives while i rebuild the Ram III. I want to see how that 350 responds to the 433's.

Don, that is a real nice score! No marks on that convertible shim on the door at all! I bet that 350 runs nice with the 4:33's, even better if you throw a set of 12's or 48's on it. A new carpet kit & some simple green on the interior & that's going to be a super fun ride!

By far the nicest69 GTO project car I've seen in awhile.
The gas bills won't be fun but a great street/strip machine.

I thought this figure was 249. Oh I see...175 RA III manual trans, convertible non-judges.

69 GTO
 

Great find.... glad you got it...

Don I had one of the 175 about 20 years ago, Matador red, red, white top, 3.55 car was a nice car that I found in RI a friend of mine has it but it rarely sees the road. Thanks for the 71 parts for my friend he has installed the glass and is hard at work on the rest of it. Mark

Mark The funny thing is that I had one just like this in 1982 that I bought out of the paper and it also had a close ratio trans and big gears and was sold new in jersey too. Back then I didnt know you could go to pontiac and document them. It was optioned just like this one with the 8track on the console and everything. Burgundy with a white top and parchment interior.Some Ass@%#e sliced my roof and vandelized my interior so I Sold it in a snowstorm to 2 guys for 2700 dollars. Never seen that car again. wonder if it survived all these years later.
Im glad your friend could use all the parts. Tell him to keep chugging along on it. It was nice meeting you and thanks for your service! Stay safe.

Hey guy's, this may be a dumb question. Is the 175 number based on the open scoops & ram air pan or just having a ram air 3 motor. Thanks, John.

What are the 2 bands around the front of the console?

All the 69-70 GTO or Judge Ram3 engined cars (and Ram4) came with functional/operational scoops and pans.

175 is number of non-judge convertibles, with Ram3 and Manual transmission.

I've come across two low option 69 GTO Ram3 Verts with 3spd manual trans, years (decades) ago.
But never seen a 4.33 gear Ram3 Vert in person.

Really great car Ram4King.
Thanks for sharing it with us.

I worked at that dealership years ago, shame it's empty now. Very nice find.....DK

Don, cool find...around '81 I bought a Vodoo green white/white/III/M20/3.55 from the original owner. He told me he walked into the dealer wanting a GTO 'Vert to tow his....sailboat. :D
They sold him the car stating it had the "towing package"

Like BVZ, I've never run across a 4.33 4sp vert III car. Looking forward to the "cleaned up" pics.

Mike

Thanks for the answer Baron Von Zeppelin. Just was wandering because I parted a 48 headed 400 , 4 spd , matador red convert w/ hood tach, matching numbers car. It was slid into a telephone pole sideways behind the drivers door.I used the parts for a judge I had all apart.About the only thing I got left of all that stuff is a 941 distributor.

Sorry if I'm mucking up your thread Ram 4 King, killer car you picked up . John

Reinforcement mounting bracket for the 8-Track that is sitting n the passenger floor board.

BJ

Actually...
 

the 4.33s would have added a $2.11 "spec. order" option on top of the "HD rear" option.

Not arguing that ... but "thought" that was just with 4.33 - M40 auto cars - for the speedo calibrater/reduction gizmo.

Anyone have PHS examples handy ?

Here's a 4.33 69 iv judge that was raced out of Yakima without a radio.

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Moved it around today and put the correct wheels on it. They just need to be painted Crystal next. I think they look tuff now in black. I wish you could get poverty caps on a Judge. the car looks sinister that way.

Thanks for that Richard :thumbsup:

Know its been covered in past, i get cloudy on some of these unique things.
But 3.90 would be spec ord on Ram3 - as would 4.33
So what would be PHS difference between them on Ram3 cars ?

Would a 4.33 still have a $2.11 over and above 3.90 spec ord on Ram3 ?

Sucks not having access to all my data's.
i know i have some 3.90 Ram3 car PHS's archived.

Thinking more about it, not only have never seen a Ram3 4.33 Vert, never seen a Hardtop Ram3 4.33 either.