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Old Goat 67 06-23-2011 12:04 PM

Would you Buy Water Pump and Plates if made to original Specs
 
Trying something here folks,

In an effort to get numbers to present to Cardone & Ames relevant to them producing a water pump and back-plates to match that conform to OEM specs;

See this thread;
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=659536

Please choose an option above,

Charles

rad400 06-23-2011 01:53 PM

I wish this would happen soon.

Engine-Ear 06-23-2011 02:03 PM

I voted. C'mon, Cardone!!!

arbys 06-23-2011 03:45 PM

It appears to me that it is important to protect a big investment in time and money

GT182 06-23-2011 03:48 PM

Voted. Bet you can't figure out what my vote was. ;) LOL

russosborne 06-23-2011 04:37 PM

I voted both, but since I own a 70 it might not matter. Although I wish they would produce all the stuff to oem specs.
Russ

Old Goat 67 06-23-2011 05:19 PM

Russ,

It is my understanding that they are looking at doing both.

Charles

Tripower455 06-24-2011 09:27 AM

I will definitely buy both.

PLAY400 06-24-2011 10:14 AM

Of course everyone would buy 1. The original water pumps worked!!!

Old Goat 67 06-24-2011 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PLAY400 (Post 4349908)
Of course everyone would buy 1. The original water pumps worked!!!

That's what we are trying to tell them!

Thanks for voting.

GT182 06-24-2011 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Goat 67 (Post 4349909)
That's what we are trying to tell them!

And that's a job unto itself. ;)

russosborne 06-24-2011 04:41 PM

Yeah, I would be willing to buy one just to show them there is a market, even though I don't use that one.
Russ

arbys 06-24-2011 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Goat 67 (Post 4349125)
Trying something here folks,

In an effort to get numbers to present to Cardone & Ames relevant to them producing a water pump and back-plates to match that conform to OEM specs;

See this thread;
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=659536

Please choose an option above,

Charles

Charles,

Would that be a new impeller or a new housing casting and impeller. From what I gathered earlier the issue was with the impeller being cut down. A whole new casting for the waterpump housing seems like a very large project.

Old Goat 67 06-24-2011 05:27 PM

No,

Cardone is re-manufacturing pumps.

Charles

72LuxuryLeMansLa. 06-24-2011 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Goat 67 (Post 4350238)
No,

Cardone is re-manufacturing pumps.

Charles

Did you ask them how many they would need to sell in order to make it worth their investment?

Karl

:usa2:

Old Goat 67 06-25-2011 03:33 AM

Karl,
What they want to do is to put out pumps with a proper impeller which would have a superseded number. But, there needs to be plates that fit it also.

Charles

Greg Reid 06-28-2011 05:33 AM

So, what's the bottom line on which pump we're talking about. Is it the 8 bolt pump only or are they looking at the 11 bolt also?

Old Goat 67 06-28-2011 05:47 AM

They are looking at doing both Greg.

GT182 06-28-2011 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Goat 67 (Post 4352656)
They are looking at doing both Greg.

And that's what I was told at the meeting back in March that Paul and I had with Cardone.

68bird400HO 06-28-2011 11:40 PM

Will cardone reman your original water pump so you can keep your part number and date codes, etc? If not, does anyone have a source for the correct ceramic washer, seals, and bearings to do your own?

Engine-Ear 06-29-2011 10:51 AM

This is a very good question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 68bird400HO (Post 4353485)
Will cardone reman your original water pump so you can keep your part number and date codes, etc? If not, does anyone have a source for the correct ceramic washer, seals, and bearings to do your own?

If Cardone will not, I suggest picking up a copy of Hemming's Motor News and researching in Services Offered.

Region Warrior 06-29-2011 04:22 PM

Didnt see it posted.
Are the housing's iron or aluminum?

GT182 06-29-2011 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Region Warrior (Post 4354039)
Didnt see it posted.
Are the housing's iron or aluminum?

Housings for the pumps Cardone will be putting out are iron. They'll more than likely be rebuilt pumps.... originals and non original copies of the originals. Impellers will be cast iron too. I saw their cast aluminum impellers and they were nothing I'd want on my engine. Sorry, but they were not as good as the cast iron impellers we've been using.

68bird400HO 06-29-2011 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engine-Ear (Post 4353731)
If Cardone will not, I suggest picking up a copy of Hemming's Motor News and researching in Services Offered.

Its not that hard to do. I actually know of one source for the bearing but was wondering if there are others. The pieces I haven't looked for yet are the seal and ceramic washer. I had a friend press an older rebuilt pump apart and found it had some inferior pieces in it. We rebuilt it with an NOS GM kit (not many of those around anymore). I wonder what Cardone uses for these parts (or any of those guys in Hemmings for that matter) and/or if original style seals and washers are available anywhere. IMO, a quality rebuilt pump is not only about the cast impeller.

When we did mine, we followed the instructions in the kit. When done, the divider plate (original) had the perfect clearance from the impeller without requiring any work.


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