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RAFormulas 01-17-2012 01:08 PM

JWs on ebay!
 
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Something is weird about these wheels... look at the 3rd to the last picture. Embossed stamping? None of mine look like this... anyone ever seen one like this before? Optical illusion?

Click here to see the auction

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1326819791

poncho4554spd 01-17-2012 02:04 PM

I spoke to that guy a while back. He also sells JW style wheels with no stampings at all that he has made. Last I talke to him, he was asking $800 for a set in red primer. A guy I know bought a set and claims they are identical to original JW's, but I have not seen in person.

TA455HO 01-17-2012 03:20 PM

To me that wheel looks OK. The embossing around the JW looks like things I've seen on other wheels. Look at the MI over 1 in this example.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...hmentid=215091

The thing I notice is that the JW, KN and KR stampings are always sans-serif. The picture fourth from last in the auction looks like a font that would be a serif type for the 15 and the JW. Compare it to the third from last and you can see they are significantly different than each other.

Transamric 01-17-2012 09:02 PM

They look Ok to me too. I've had a couple sets dated 7/15 & these look typical. But I'm not so sure the market can bear that auction price. No bids at this point.

Norwood 01-17-2012 09:59 PM

I would say that they are original JWs not repops. No sign of welding on the backside....Origionals are resistance welded a reshelled center would be mig welded.

keith k 01-17-2012 10:17 PM

Looked right to me, too. Everything but the price, anyway.

poncho4554spd 01-17-2012 10:17 PM

The guy seemed really nice and legit when I spoke to him quite a while ago. He said that he had that original set and repop sets. When selling the repops, he makes it clear that there are no stampings on his and he will not stamp them. The repops he has don't have the stampings inside the rims like the originals. I am sure those JW's are indeed originals.

Baron Von Zeppelin 01-17-2012 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RAFormulas (Post 4525105)
Optical illusion?

Its optical
I saw what you saw too.

Sometimes the 15 and JW look like they are raised - like a date code on a block.
Sometimes it looks like a normal stamp impression.

kinda freaky - i've looked and relooked many times and it still bounces back and forth

Formulabruce 01-17-2012 10:35 PM

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Welding up and blasting and stamping wheels is one thing, the price is something else!
They should be marketed as repops at least.

FunctionalShaker 01-17-2012 10:48 PM

I emailed him that his price was too high, even for originals.

RAJ7395 01-17-2012 11:12 PM

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I've got this one sitting on the shelf.

The Boss 01-18-2012 09:49 AM

Like I said on another thread about these - it's a very late date and likely won't work for 99.5% of the 70 TA's out there. I've got to believe these were originally delivered on an early 71.

Rarity + Desirability = $$$$

Anybody want to venture a guess how many of these got tossed in the first year or two? I think this is a case where demand outstrips supply.

Judge273 01-18-2012 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Boss (Post 4526097)
Like I said on another thread about these - it's a very late date and likely won't work for 99.5% of the 70 TA's out there. I've got to believe these were originally delivered on an early 71.

Rarity + Desirability = $$$$

Anybody want to venture a guess how many of these got tossed in the first year or two? I think this is a case where demand outstrips supply.

Perfect for a early 71 Judge like OBD's WT7 one that has JW's on build sheet....

RAFormulas 01-18-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin (Post 4525757)
Its optical
I saw what you saw too.

Sometimes the 15 and JW look like they are raised - like a date code on a block.
Sometimes it looks like a normal stamp impression.

kinda freaky - i've looked and relooked many times and it still bounces back and forth

Thanks Baron... apparently you and I are the only ones that are optically challenged. :oogle:

The Boss 01-18-2012 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Judge273 (Post 4526270)
Perfect for a early 71 Judge like OBD's WT7 one that has JW's on build sheet....

BINGO!

FunctionalShaker 01-18-2012 09:36 PM

I posted a pic of my 7/15 on our JW date thread. I agree that these would have been for 71 cars.

FunctionalShaker 02-22-2015 11:57 PM

Anyone here get the set of five 4/10 70 JWs that just sold? They're gonna need some work.

roundportponchos 02-24-2015 12:50 AM

original JW
 
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These are the dates on the five rims I have, don't think a real common date

RicksGTO 02-24-2015 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by roundportponchos (Post 5363209)
These are the dates on the five rims I have, don't think a real common date

I stumbled on to two 5-11 dated JW's mixed in with a couple of KR's when I bought a set for my Formula a few years ago.

FunctionalShaker 03-01-2015 09:37 AM

Couple of KNs listed on ebay.

1970 Pontiac Trans Am Rally Wheels 15 inch
Rare with Trim Ring!

FunctionalShaker 03-27-2017 09:34 AM

2 7/28/70 KN rims on Ebay. 2 Pontiac15 X 7 KN Rally II Wheels, Trans Am, GTO 70's

eaglesan13 03-27-2017 02:31 PM

These?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Pontiac15-...ZY0VhN&vxp=mtr

FunctionalShaker 03-27-2017 03:43 PM

Yes, those.

FunctionalShaker 10-24-2019 11:09 PM

Did someone on the forum purchase the 1/27 JW that just sold on Ebay?

FASTASSBIRD 10-25-2019 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FunctionalShaker (Post 6075345)
Did someone on the forum purchase the 1/27 JW that just sold on Ebay?



What about the full set of 3/9’s that sold last week?


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1971455HO 10-25-2019 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Boss (Post 4526097)
Like I said on another thread about these - it's a very late date and likely won't work for 99.5% of the 70 TA's out there. I've got to believe these were originally delivered on an early 71.

Rarity + Desirability = $$$$

Anybody want to venture a guess how many of these got tossed in the first year or two? I think this is a case where demand outstrips supply.

My 71 has a build date of 09A. The prevailing wisdom here was I needed KN's to be correct. They're dated 7/21/70. Anybody have a data base on, or know the earliest build dates for '71 birds w/15" Rally II wheels coming off the line in Norwood?

FunctionalShaker 10-25-2019 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by FASTASSBIRD (Post 6075363)
What about the full set of 3/9’s that sold last week?


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And the pair of 4/6s in September.

I'm surprised the 1/27 went has high as it did considering the scallop damage to the lug holes -- that will need to be repaired.

FASTASSBIRD 10-25-2019 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FunctionalShaker (Post 6075392)
And the pair of 4/6s in September.



I'm surprised the 1/27 went has high as it did considering the scallop damage to the lug holes -- that will need to be repaired.



I was surprised the 3/9’s lasted as long as they did. I couldn’t get a good enough view of the lug holes to tell but at least one looked like it was toast. That kept me out of it.


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FASTASSBIRD 10-25-2019 03:18 PM

JWs on ebay!
 
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Originally Posted by 1971455HO (Post 6075367)
My 71 has a build date of 09A. The prevailing wisdom here was I needed KN's to be correct. They're dated 7/21/70. Anybody have a data base on, or know the earliest build dates for '71 birds w/15" Rally II wheels coming off the line in Norwood?



Idk, but I’ve seen oct of 70 dated JW’s. Pretty damn. Late to be still stamping JW wheels since it’s well into the 71 model year

muscle_collector 10-25-2019 08:51 PM

what did they bring?

A Schab 10-25-2019 11:58 PM

$2800.00 for the set of 4 that I saw.

FASTASSBIRD 10-26-2019 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by A Schab (Post 6075661)
$2800.00 for the set of 4 that I saw.



Yes but you didn’t add the tax eBay now charges nor the fact that someone is gonna eat the shipping as it was stated at 60 bucks. All in all I’d say with tax and shipping around 3200 bucks


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A Schab 10-26-2019 12:48 AM

That’s 3 times what I paid for my 70 T/A. I finally found a spare 1/26 JW for it this spring. The guy selling it told me he knew what it was worth and would not budge on the price. I gave him his $85.00 and left with a smile on my face.It had never been bolted on a car.

eaglesan13 10-26-2019 02:55 PM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1970-P...p2047675.l2557

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1970-J...p2047675.l2557

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Originally Posted by muscle_collector (Post 6075615)
what did they bring?


FASTASSBIRD 10-28-2019 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by A Schab (Post 6075669)
That’s 3 times what I paid for my 70 T/A. I finally found a spare 1/26 JW for it this spring. The guy selling it told me he knew what it was worth and would not budge on the price. I gave him his $85.00 and left with a smile on my face.It had never been bolted on a car.



Sounds like my 69 Trans Am alternator I found at a swapmeet. I see it from across the way and say no way. Walk up it’s laying all by itself in the center of his spot ironically. I picked up and the old man says “it works, I pulled it off my 40 ford just last week for a chrome one”. Ok, how much? 20 bucks he says, I didn’t have the heart to offer him 15. I payed and walked straight to my truck and put it behind the seat under a towel.


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FunctionalShaker 11-24-2019 08:12 PM

On Ebay right now: Original 1970 Pontiac Trans Am 15x7 JW Rally II Wheel 70 Firebird Formula 5/25 if anyone needs it.

wovenweb 11-24-2019 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FunctionalShaker (Post 6084543)
On Ebay right now: Original 1970 Pontiac Trans Am 15x7 JW Rally II Wheel 70 Firebird Formula 5/25 if anyone needs it.


Link? Already gone?

77 Canamman 11-24-2019 10:17 PM

I couldn't find it either

Baron Von Zeppelin 11-24-2019 10:51 PM

In the later part of the 1980's , they (JW) were retailing for around $100 each in good used condition.

I thought that was just way too damn much.
who knew
- not me

RamAir Manual code Carb cores were about abuckfifty.
- i missed that bus too

wovenweb 11-25-2019 07:25 AM

There was one that sold yesterday for a Buy It Now of $375. Single rim needing to be redone.

FunctionalShaker 11-25-2019 11:32 AM

That's the one. Went quick.

wovenweb 02-01-2020 04:58 PM

There was a set of 4 on eBay with the auction ending this morning. However, the auction got pulled. Bidding had only gotten to $1,100 as of last night when the auction ended early.

blue71ta 02-01-2020 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wovenweb (Post 6106154)
There was a set of 4 on eBay with the auction ending this morning. However, the auction got pulled. Bidding had only gotten to $1,100 as of last night when the auction ended early.

same wheels are listed on this site by a forum member

FASTASSBIRD 02-01-2020 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by wovenweb (Post 6106154)
There was a set of 4 on eBay with the auction ending this morning. However, the auction got pulled. Bidding had only gotten to $1,100 as of last night when the auction ended early.



There was a pair of 1/28’s that magically disappeared at 1k. These sellers get antsy when they don’t hit a high number right away. Some of us wait til the end to bid. Bummer for them


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wovenweb 02-03-2020 03:57 PM

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F114090633988

wovenweb 02-03-2020 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wovenweb (Post 6106829)

Does this link work for others? I’m doing all this on my phone where it works fine for me.

68tpls400 02-03-2020 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wovenweb (Post 6106830)
Does this link work for others? I’m doing all this on my phone where it works fine for me.

Works for me on my desktop.

Transamric 02-03-2020 11:15 PM

Slightly "borrowing" the thread here. Curious if there are any dates that are rarer or more valuable in JW's than any others.

RicksGTO 02-03-2020 11:48 PM

seems like the later dates in April and May that are more correct for the RAIV cars go for the highest prices

Norwood 02-04-2020 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wovenweb (Post 6106829)

The value of theses wheels is tied directly to the stamping. If the stamping is not readable the worth should drastically go down


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