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bad69bird 10-14-2012 08:25 PM

Lil Jack's 7 second timeslip...
 
Congrats bro...still alot left on the table...

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n...k794pass-1.jpg

PONTIAC DUDE 10-14-2012 08:29 PM

Could you get your helmet off or was it stuck from the swelling.

Awesome dog.

mike leech 10-14-2012 08:34 PM

Robin who?

bankbook 10-14-2012 08:52 PM

Now it's official. lol

60man 10-14-2012 08:52 PM

No wheelie bars ??? I want to know how you get a big Red Brick to MPH that fast !!:D
Congrats Jack & crew......

TOP 452 10-14-2012 08:59 PM

Congrats Jack.

judgera4 10-14-2012 09:14 PM

Congrats Jack !

LiL Jack 10-14-2012 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike leech (Post 4755163)
Robin who?

ONOYOUDIDNT!

LiL Jack 10-14-2012 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 60man (Post 4755193)
No wheelie bars ??? I want to know how you get a big Red Brick to MPH that fast !!:D
Congrats Jack & crew......

No wheeliebars!

Gaby Labiosa power!

mysticmissle 10-14-2012 09:25 PM

Awesome congrats to you and your crew

BruceWilkie 10-14-2012 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiL Jack (Post 4755234)
ONOYOUDIDNT!

OHYESHEDID... now you got to beat that 174 mph number for your next goal! :D

LiL Jack 10-14-2012 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceWilkie (Post 4755247)
OHYESHEDID... now you got to beat that 174 mph number for your next goal! :D

No timeslip, no video....didnt happen!

Is he still alive?

And make sure you tell Robin to take that fastest street car in the universe off his signature!

Brent Flynn 10-14-2012 09:53 PM

thats awesome! And they said it couldnt be done... now everybody else gets to play catch up :)

R 70 Judge 10-14-2012 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceWilkie (Post 4755247)
OHYESHEDID... now you got to beat that 174 mph number for your next goal! :D

Why? Low ET wins the race, not MPH. :rolleyes:


Congrats Lil Jack! :cool2:

grandville455 10-14-2012 10:02 PM

Way to go Jack!! Congrats

David Holmberg 10-14-2012 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiL Jack (Post 4755236)
No wheeliebars!

Gaby Labiosa power!

That's exactly what I was thinking. :D

Brian Baker 10-15-2012 06:58 AM

Nice job, Lil' Jerk...I mean Jack.;)

PN 10-15-2012 08:15 AM

65 GTO's ttf!! Good job Jack!!

GTO Dan 10-15-2012 08:27 AM

NICE. Great job.

Now on to the 6's, no time to be complacent, get to work. :D

Seriously, enjoy this awesome accomplishment.

Jeff Kinsler 10-15-2012 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiL Jack (Post 4755236)
No wheeliebars!

Gaby Labiosa power!

and EHTTFMF!!

Jeff Kinsler 10-15-2012 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R 70 Judge (Post 4755268)
Why? Low ET wins the race, not MPH. :rolleyes:


Congrats Lil Jack! :cool2:

that is one true statement.

60man 10-15-2012 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R 70 Judge (Post 4755268)
Why? Low ET wins the race, not MPH. :rolleyes:


Congrats Lil Jack! :cool2:

I certainly agree who gets there first wins..Some times a hole shot determines the win.......not low ET. Those of us with "heavy" rides need the top end charge (MPH) for a good ET..to make up for so so 660' numbers of heavy car..:rolleyes::) My 60 can hit 135 MPH but no 9 second ET slip..

In Jack's case it's a "just because"...:D

ponjohn 10-15-2012 09:47 AM

MPH is crazy.

Nice job!!

6568gto 10-15-2012 09:50 AM

congrats

john marcella 10-15-2012 06:29 PM

Congrats Jack.
I was starting to get a little worried, cuz you took so dam long.LOL Good job.

Ron H 10-15-2012 08:07 PM

Awesome guys. It must feel good after some of the "opportunities" of the last year. Congrats.

twooldgoats 10-15-2012 09:15 PM

Congratulations!!!

Jim

65nss4spdGTO 10-15-2012 10:38 PM

Congratulations Jack on hitting the 7 second mark. 7 second Pontiacs are few and far between in comparison to the "other" brands. I'm curious as to the number of hits you made on the car this year to reach your goal?

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

BruceWilkie 10-16-2012 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R 70 Judge (Post 4755268)
Why? Low ET wins the race, not MPH. :rolleyes:


Congrats Lil Jack! :cool2:

Why??? If the other guy hooks up his 174 mph car he has the potential to beat Jacks ET thats why.

Besides he needs a new goal doesnt he??? I dont think Jack plans to just kick back do you???

Badbird69 10-16-2012 01:35 AM

Congrats Jack,

Welcome to the street legal 7 second Pontiac club. Took you long enough, lol.

Dick

Jack Gifford 10-16-2012 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 65nss4spdGTO (Post 4756153)
... 7 second Pontiacs are few and far between in comparison to the "other" brands...

In comparison to other obsolete brands? Just askin'...

65nss4spdGTO 10-16-2012 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Gifford (Post 4756267)
In comparison to other obsolete brands? Just askin'...

My reference is comparing all other brands.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

LiL Jack 10-16-2012 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceWilkie (Post 4756228)
Why??? If the other guy hooks up his 174 mph car he has the potential to beat Jacks ET thats why.

Besides he needs a new goal doesnt he??? I dont think Jack plans to just kick back do you???

Yea don't forget he is about 160#s lighter too. :)

LiL Jack 10-16-2012 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 65nss4spdGTO (Post 4756153)
Congratulations Jack on hitting the 7 second mark. 7 second Pontiacs are few and far between in comparison to the "other" brands. I'm curious as to the number of hits you made on the car this year to reach your goal?

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

I started looking over some of my logs and about 5 passes were last years, so about 32 passes this year. One motor pass, then I had two or three nitrous passes when I had electrical problems. Rewired the car. Went out and started spraying one system. Then started working on two, then turned the plate on before the fogger and that seemed to make a big d.ifference in how the car left. It was NOT that way at Norwalk. The things we learned after Norwalk I am confident we could have gone a high 8.0 or low teen back then.

Ran 4 passes at Yellow Bullet Nationals in 8.50 index, so I dont really consider that tryn to get in the 7s.

So honestly a little over 20 passes to learn what the motor likes and the chassis likes to tune it in the 7s.

I never nipped a plug all year, never changed the head gaskets. I ran a compression test three times and they were all around 175 lbs, except before this last time out 4 and 6 were 150 and 155 lbs respectively.

I don't consider myself some great nitrous tuner, but I can read a plug and adjust and try different things from there. But I am sure that what Gaby did to the chambers and the motor made the tuning window much larger. Which just makes me look good :)

Thanks also to my pit biotch Woody, a friend since high school and to Brian, Jeff and Mike for all the help at the track. ECMTTFMF!

LiL Jack 10-16-2012 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 65nss4spdGTO (Post 4756361)
My reference is comparing all other brands.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

I put a post on YB in the nitrous section to kinda get there opinion and they all seemed to be impressed with the "small" cubic inches and weight that I did it at.

Jeff Kinsler 10-16-2012 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiL Jack (Post 4756381)
I started looking over some of my logs and about 5 passes were last years, so about 32 passes this year. One motor pass, then I had two or three nitrous passes when I had electrical problems. Rewired the car. Went out and started spraying one system. Then started working on two, then turned the plate on before the fogger and that seemed to make a big d.ifference in how the car left. It was NOT that way at Norwalk. The things we learned after Norwalk I am confident we could have gone a high 8.0 or low teen back then.

Ran 4 passes at Yellow Bullet Nationals in 8.50 index, so I dont really consider that tryn to get in the 7s.

So honestly a little over 20 passes to learn what the motor likes and the chassis likes to tune it in the 7s.

I never nipped a plug all year, never changed the head gaskets. I ran a compression test three times and they were all around 175 lbs, except before this last time out 4 and 6 were 150 and 155 lbs respectively.

I don't consider myself some great nitrous tuner, but I can read a plug and adjust and try different things from there. But I am sure that what Gaby did to the chambers and the motor made the tuning window much larger. Which just makes me look good :)

Thanks also to my pit biotch Woody, a friend since high school and to Brian, Jeff and Mike for all the help at the track. ECMTTFMF!

good job jack and Gaby..

65nss4spdGTO 10-16-2012 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiL Jack (Post 4756381)
So honestly a little over 20 passes to learn what the motor likes and the chassis likes to tune it in the 7s.

I never nipped a plug all year, never changed the head gaskets. I ran a compression test three times and they were all around 175 lbs, except before this last time out 4 and 6 were 150 and 155 lbs respectively.

I don't consider myself some great nitrous tuner, but I can read a plug and adjust and try different things from there. But I am sure that what Gaby did to the chambers and the motor made the tuning window much larger. Which just makes me look good :)

We are in the process of adding the "Special Deck" insert into the E-heads like we have done with the Tigers. To date, this has proven to increase head gasket life, I was curious if you felt this would help?

Thanks.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

LiL Jack 10-16-2012 10:51 AM

I saw pics of it in another thread and it looked nice. I would guess that it would help being a harder material.

Jeff Kinsler 10-16-2012 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiL Jack (Post 4756465)
I saw pics of it in another thread and it looked nice. I would guess that it would help being a harder material.

YOUR AGREEING WITH CALVIN!!!

HAVE YOU BEEN DRINKING TODAY!!!!

LMAO!
EHTTFMF!

BruceWilkie 10-16-2012 11:05 AM

Jack I'm NOT trying to discredit your accomplishment... you worked hard to get there. Job well done!

Just asking you dont discredit what Robin has accomplished... he runs under a different set of rules and at much higher altitude. I'm certain at equal weight/ci under same rules/tracks Robin runs it would be quite a match. Even if he is supposedly 160lbs lighter(and that could only be certain if you both drive over the same scale) and going 174 in thinner air I still think he's making more power.

I'm simply suggesting you set a new goal now that you've met your sub 8 goal. GO 174 WITH the ET that mph could get you! THAT's a reasonable goal AND adds to what is already impressive... Then Robin would have to further step up!

65nss4spdGTO 10-16-2012 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler (Post 4756467)
YOUR AGREEING WITH CALVIN!!!

HAVE YOU BEEN DRINKING TODAY!!!!

LMAO!
EHTTFMF!

LOL!

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

65nss4spdGTO 10-16-2012 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiL Jack (Post 4756465)
I saw pics of it in another thread and it looked nice. I would guess that it would help being a harder material.

My concern with the power you are now making will continue to create sealing issues. Big bore Pontiac engines 4.350"+ leaves little material between the chambers. The heat generated with the center exhaust ports will continue to soften the head. The casting quality is better on the E-head versus the Tiger, but if you are starting to see it now, chances are it will only continue to get worse.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

LiL Jack 10-16-2012 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceWilkie (Post 4756478)
Jack I'm NOT trying to discredit your accomplishment... you worked hard to get there. Job well done!

Just asking you dont discredit what Robin has accomplished... he runs under a different set of rules and at much higher altitude. I'm certain at equal weight/ci under same rules/tracks Robin runs it would be quite a match. Even if he is supposedly 160lbs lighter(and that could only be certain if you both drive over the same scale) and going 174 in thinner air I still think he's making more power.

I'm simply suggesting you set a new goal now that you've met your sub 8 goal. GO 174 WITH the ET that mph could get you! THAT's a reasonable goal AND adds to what is already impressive... Then Robin would have to further step up!

I think I am going to try and go 4.90s next.

BruceWilkie 10-16-2012 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiL Jack (Post 4756499)
I think I am going to try and go 4.90s next.

Hook 174 capability in 1/4 and you should beat 4.90 in the 1/8th and 7.90 in the quarter Jack. Good goal.

RUDOLFSSON 10-16-2012 02:35 PM

Thumbs up!!

andrewT 10-16-2012 07:02 PM

congrats Jack.

I've always loved you and your dad's goats!!


FASTER FASTER!!

Brian Baker 10-16-2012 08:16 PM

Time to learn how to leakdown the cylinders too, Jack. Compression test per cylinder is not enough at your power level.

Scott Roberts 10-16-2012 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Baker (Post 4756868)
Time to learn how to leakdown the cylinders too, Jack. Compression test per cylinder is not enough at your power level.

X2...

LiL Jack 10-16-2012 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Baker (Post 4756868)
Time to learn how to leakdown the cylinders too, Jack. Compression test per cylinder is not enough at your power level.

There was just a thread on YB about this, and Monte Smith said just the opposite.

Its in the Induction Solution section, its a good read and its on the first page.

Scott Roberts 10-16-2012 09:25 PM

A compression test will certainly tell you if the cylinder is not making good compression, but a leak down will tell you the same thing as well as help to locate the problem . It will let you know if an intake or exhaust valve is leaking , if its rings , or a head sealing issue. A compression test will not tell you those things...


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