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pontiacs4ever1971 05-03-2013 10:30 PM

options on manual disc breaks help
 
Im wanting to put manual disc breaks on the front of my 62' Tempest. The car should run high 10's so I need to stop this beast. Any suggestions on what I should go with? Thanks for your help guys!

xlrate 05-04-2013 09:24 AM

checkout:

http://scarebird.com/index.php?route...&product_id=76


Todd

beemergary 05-04-2013 09:51 AM

Run Wilwoods on my 63 and 61 that go down the strip. 63 run NSS/D 11.50 class. Do have to make your own brackets but there a bolt on.

Radman 05-04-2013 04:30 PM

The Scarebird kit gives you the brackets to adapt the calipers to the Tempest suspension,and all of the part numbers that you need. One thing, you may need to have the machine shop square off the front of the hub along with turning it down to fit inside the disk brake rotor.
Also my tires ended up 1/4 inch farther outboard. The distance of the rotor at the hub.

63Longtop 05-05-2013 10:24 AM

Brakes
 
Wilwood, bolt on deal and their are light! I have a couple of sets of brackets.

mechanickeith 05-05-2013 01:41 PM

I dont belive the Scarebird conversion lets you use the stock wheels. Anyone know if the Willwood kit does?

Radman 05-05-2013 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mechanickeith (Post 4918540)
I dont belive the Scarebird conversion lets you use the stock wheels. Anyone know if the Willwood kit does?

You are correct, the stock wheels will not clear the calapers. You have to get aftermarket rims.

mechanickeith 05-05-2013 06:45 PM

Don,,Does that include the willwood setup?

Scarebird 05-05-2013 07:21 PM

We picked up a suspension unit from a 62 Tempest and rim - may be able to build a setup that will fit the OEM rim. Should know more in the next week or so.

If not the 83-94 Ranger rim should clear.

Radman 05-05-2013 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mechanickeith (Post 4918716)
Don,,Does that include the willwood setup?

Don't know, I used the Scarebird set-up.

JohnFromVentura 05-05-2013 08:48 PM

The extra 1/4" offset is a little annoying. The stock wheel backspacing was 4 1/2" and American Torque Thrusts have 3 5/8" BS max. Overall the Skybird setup worked out well! I sent my hubs to Skybird for OD and stud length mods. John
Quote:

Originally Posted by Radman (Post 4918025)
The Scarebird kit gives you the brackets to adapt the calipers to the Tempest suspension,and all of the part numbers that you need. One thing, you may need to have the machine shop square off the front of the hub along with turning it down to fit inside the disk brake rotor.
Also my tires ended up 1/4 inch farther outboard. The distance of the rotor at the hub.


pontiacs4ever1971 05-05-2013 10:47 PM

Yeah I wanna use stock wheels on the car. So the willwood the way to go?

mechanickeith 05-06-2013 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by pontiacs4ever1971 (Post 4918936)
So the willwood the way to go?

Dont know yet. I want to run stock wheels. If I put anything else on my car, they will be stolen the first night!!

Budsurfn 05-06-2013 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarebird (Post 4918746)
We picked up a suspension unit from a 62 Tempest and rim - may be able to build a setup that will fit the OEM rim. Should know more in the next week or so.

If not the 83-94 Ranger rim should clear.

yes they do work but they aint exactly pretty, I ended up using that because i had to, I then got a custom steel wheel to fit from early wheel company

also you might have to file or machine part of the caliper like i did in order for it to clear the bracket i believe

pontiacs4ever1971 05-06-2013 08:05 PM

I'm wanting to put 15" stock steel wheels on

beemergary 05-06-2013 09:04 PM

I am thinking the stock wheels won't just bolt on, but don't know why with the Wilwoods.

fasteddy 05-07-2013 10:20 AM

High 10s with stock wheels? That may be real tough. Or do you mean just on the front?

pontiacs4ever1971 05-07-2013 05:23 PM

I will have 2 sets. I have drag slicks on it now but for road driving I want the stock steel wheels.

rod cole 05-07-2013 11:27 PM

You can run steel wheels just not the high back space factory wheel. Which in my opinion looks kind of dorky on a performance car. The old dodge Dakota had high back space wheels and looked plain ugly. The scarebird brakes are easily sourced parts work well on my 10.65 62 tempest and have been as fast as 9.90 at 135. The wildwood brakes are drag brakes which do not have cooling fins in them. Will probably work well enough but the whole idea is to get rid of heat. Something a solid disc does not do as well as a vented rotor does. If you run the full hubcap you would never know what wheel was on there. I run the weld rod lights with a 205/70 15 on a 4 inch rim and everything clears exceptionaly well. Rod

Scarebird 05-08-2013 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rod cole (Post 4920458)
You can run steel wheels just not the high back space factory wheel. Which in my opinion looks kind of dorky on a performance car. The old dodge Dakota had high back space wheels and looked plain ugly. The scarebird brakes are easily sourced parts work well on my 10.65 62 tempest and have been as fast as 9.90 at 135. The wildwood brakes are drag brakes which do not have cooling fins in them. Will probably work well enough but the whole idea is to get rid of heat. Something a solid disc does not do as well as a vented rotor does. If you run the full hubcap you would never know what wheel was on there. I run the weld rod lights with a 205/70 15 on a 4 inch rim and everything clears exceptionaly well. Rod

:eek: Never ceases to amaze me what customers do.

ahnuld 05-08-2013 01:06 AM

i have early 60's plymouth rims on mine, fit fine with the scarebird brakes.

pontiacs4ever1971 05-08-2013 05:05 AM

So can I run a stock 15" steel oem wheel?

Scarebird 05-08-2013 11:59 AM

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no, they are 14" centers with narrow 15" hoops.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1368028654

see how deep the groove is in the hoop? and how domed the center is? neither are good for fitment...


68Prix 05-08-2013 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahnuld (Post 4920491)
i have early 60's plymouth rims on mine, fit fine with the scarebird brakes.

Are you running 61-63 Tempest caps or are those something different? Thanks Pat

ahnuld 05-08-2013 04:12 PM

i have 10 1/4 in diameter, what i think are bonneville caps on mine. Dan


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