ebay 69 RAIV car opinion
 

I have a friend who wants to bid but wanted the expert opinion on it. Thanks,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ponti...6ca818&vxp=mtr

I'd like to see the PHS on it?
And more engine pics?

The ad blurbs toward the bottom mentions a WS Tripower engine in it?
:confused:

Like they copied a lot of stuff from the internet?

Car looks sharp, but for that price, probably want to really check into it?

:)

Im certainly no expert, but my "flipper buddy" had the only Red on Red, matching number 69 Ram Air 1V GTO {not Judge} conv a few years ago. He paid 30k around 2000 I believe from Auburn, sold it for around 40k. It got up to around 165k a few years ago, and resold at Barrett Jackson Scottsdale in Jan for around 125k. I also know Jake Scott wanted around 200K for his Gold certified 69 Non Maching number Judge red Conv a year or so ago {i believe Ram Air III} AT 225k the Red North Dakota car seems to be high. Just my opinion. Thanks again

That car (Matador Red Judge) was owned by a forum member here back in the mid to late 80's. Somewhere I have a video of it and a few other cars that he had for sale at the time. The red 69 was in the rough but eventually restored to an extremely high level. The eventual owner that had the car restored was very particular. He had a few very high level restored Pontiacs. Unfortunately, he passed away and these are likely being sold by his family. They also have a 65 Tripower convert for sale.

Didn't he restore Brewster's old 73 SD TA 4 speed to its amazing level too?

Yep. That is the same guy.

so its a legit RA IV car?

No question its a great car with a great restortion, but is it 225k ebay material?

Neil had restored both this 69 Judge and the 4-speed SD that Brewster just sold. He was very particular and both cars were beautiful! The restoration on this 69 was completed about 10 years ago.

This car is Neil Coffell's car. His widow Elaine is selling the car and must be using the dealer in Nebraska to market it. I do not have the PHS however it is a real car and formerly a GTOAA concours award winner. Neil used to drive it into the Muscle Car Classic with white cotton gloves on. A true trailer queen and top level car. If anyone is interested, this is a real deal RAIV Judge in an unusual color.

thanks

The widow needs to get one of you guys to write the ad for her.
It would probably garner a lot more traffic.

(or tell the salesman what to write)

:)

Does it still have the original WW in it?

Also, the rear gears are 3.90?

:confused:

3 of Neil's cars are being offered on Ebay. The 3rd one being the blue SD T/A. It does say Make an offer on all the cars. The family has tried to downsize the collection for some time now and I'm sure its hard to know exactly the best way to sell these special rare cars without paying a boat load of commission. Restoration on Neil's collection is second to none.

You can see the high levels of quality and detail all over it.
Even the mufflers were NOS units

It may very well be the only 69 Ram Air IV Judge in Matador Red
Have seen several Ram III Matador Red Judges - but this is the only Ram IV i have ever seen myself in that faktry color .


The text in the listing does need some good editing.


Same car same quality - in Carousel Red - would probably be 200 'ish +/-

Mike Dahl had done the SD and Jim Mott just freshened up the judge right before Neils untimely passing.
The car is awesome and I believe still sports its correct ww block.
Neil was a perfectionist with his cars and that 65 Irish Mist is another Trailer Queen.
Hope they find a good home.

Neil was an avid buyer of NOS parts. He probably loaded the car up with them. He was extremely particular. I saw him with the car at one of the conventions years back. It is extremely nice.
It MAY be the only Matador Red RAIV Judge WITH a black vinyl top but I do know of another non-vinyl Matador RAIV 4 speed Judge in MI.
I personally am not a fan of vinyl tops on Judges. JMO

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very sad the passing of the former owner.. Reminds us all, life is so short.
The one in mich is a very nice car, SR block, as I recall..

The car is really nice but I don't see the Ram Air IV decales on the hood. it may be the lighting on the hood but I don't/can't see the decals the go on the hood.They should be either black or evevn whiter do

awsome car, i remember seeing it at the nationals, owner was extremely particular on everything top of the line car!

There Black on this car and located correctly.

That car looks awesome! Looks like he has the white gloves on too....

I had an occasion to point judge Neil's red Judge once about ten years ago
and I would have to say that I've never seen a nicer 69 Judge than that car.......it's
about as perfect and correct as a 69 Judge can be. Whoever winds up with that car is
indeed very fortunate.

Neil's car is a great example, no question about it. But since it is for sale, would it be so crazy to talk about what it may be worth?

Low production, Award winning, Numbers matching, Top notch restoration with no corner cut.

It is worth every penny for a 1969 RA IV 4 speed Judge in a Non CR car. IMHO

Thanks for stepping to the plate

I have to say my opinion is based on what I have heard and seen (TOP example of a numbing matching/correct to the NOS mufflers 1969 RA IV 4 speed Judge)about the restoration, and have seen his work on a Brewster 73 TA SD 4 speed car that was recently sold.

HTH...

Very nice car. Great if you owned a museum. Not so much if you wanted one to drive.

looks right
 

not a fan of this colour or vinyl top but this car looks right for some reason:)

69 RAIV Judge
 

The car is worth whatever someone will pay. I do know there are 4 other '69 RAIV 4spd Judges located in or around the Minneapolis metro area that you could not purchase for less than $150k for any one of them. Neil's car is a better quality restoration than any of the other four, so you can judge for yourself. I am not sure if the Cofell car is numbers matching or not. As others have chimed in, this Matador Judge is an exeptional car and probably the best example in the country today. Definetly an investment grade vehicle. When was the last time a car is this caliber actually sold? $225k/bo is not a pie in the sky number for this car either. I've seen it in person and it should be worth close to that if it were to go over the block somewhere. Just my opinion, but if anyone has the jing to spare for a concourse show car, this is the car you want. Anyone who is serious should contact Elaine directly.

First photo is from the 2005 Land of Lakes Muscle Car Classic where the Judge was in the Winners Circle. Neil is seen in the Hawaiian shirt surveying his detailing work prior to judging.

Second and Third photos are from the 2006 Muscle Car Classic where the Judge was the Winners Circle Champion from the prior year and had received the Award of Excellence.

Final Photo is of Neil driving through to receive the Paul Zazarine Award after the 2006 event. Paul himself was there to hand out the award that day.

As you can see from the photos I took, the Judge is a stunning example of Pontiac's Holy Grail- the Ram Air IV Judge.

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wow...

How rough was the car when Neil restored it? Did people up there know about the car back in the 70'S early 80's?

Still available at 225k. This car will probably bring the money at a certain Jan auction in Arizona.

JUDGE
 

Let it be known to all this is a real 1969 RAM AIR IV 4sp JUDGE.
I sold Neil this JUDGE and took it to him. I have the PHS and pictures of the car when I bought it.The car is what it is now, STUNNING! LET IT (HIM) REST IN PEACE.:usa2:

Great looking car with excellent verification.

I really like the car.

Paul Glasgo's black Judge, even though not real, was a fantastic job, that was dialed in to run mid-12's on redlines, for 20 cents on the dollar in comparison. Looking back, that was deal.

back up. Starting bid at $150k now.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-...item3a8275097c

Ebay pics are from 2004. Has anyone seen what it looks like today. Nine years can make a huge difference. I'm reminded of that every time I look in the mirror.

sorry to hijack this thread but I got a good laugh out of that one.

Not knocking the car. It is beautiful. I just wished I looked that good.

Neil always kept meticulous care of his vehicles and probably kept it in a climate controlled garage. I would bet the car looks the same today as nine years ago. Anyone serious should contact the seller directly.