1967 Tempest Wagon w/factory OHC 6 4BBL
 

Made a trip to Fredericksburg, VA yesterday to pick up a new toy. It is a 67 Tempest Wagon with a factory installed OHC 6 4BBL engine. Although it was not called a "Sprint" option, this engine was offered in 67 and was installed in only 62 Tempest Custom wagons. 1 of 47 with the 2 speed automatic trans. The plan is to fix up some minor things as I enjoy/drive the car.

That's a beautiful car! I love these wagons. I had one lined up to buy but I thought it'd be a better idea to finish my goat first plus my girlfriend didn't approve lol but if I would've brought it home she would've gotten over it.

I had no idea they ever put a 4bbl on an OHC 6. I thought they were all 2bbl. Very cool car! Post some pics of the whole car will you? Been a while since I've seen one. Love the wheels too

I had no idea they ever put a 4bbl on an OHC 6
 

Did you just really post that?
WTF have you been :D I've been on here for years talking, selling and promoting OHC 6 and Sprint 6 Pontiacs for years.

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SB,
I had no idea it was for sale.
Very cool wagon, I recall back when he picked it up.
Very cool OHC HO engine option.
For those not aware as stated this is NOT a SPRINT but an optional engine package.

Does it come with any PHS info; to share?

Do you mind me asking how much you paid.

Inquiring minds want to know ;)

Very Cool indeed!

Really cool wagon. :thumbup: Nice acquisition SB. Looks to be in great shape too.

I did. Just to get your goat Jeff. :D

Seriously, I just never paid attention.

Very cool car missed one here still kicking myself a/c option hood light nice I had a 67 Tempest custom in high school 3 on the tree ohc guy I got it from put a 4 bbl manifold and carb with header on it I would give the ol 327's a run for the money.

Well Jeff, It was not advertised. I arranged the sale from Nathe to Tyrone and was present when Nathe bought it in Dayton. I asked Tyrone if he ever wanted to sell it, to call me. Well I got the call about 3 weeks ago.
Thanks all for the compliments on the wagon. It is in fairly nice, original paint, driver condition. I like the patina! The car needs the master cylinder, an oil change, cleaned and it is ready to drive. Future plan is to fix up some of the interior panels, valve seals and possibly a paint job/minor body work. I have a bunch of documentation including the original window sticker and invoice. I paid $8000.

Ahhhh, Paul's like me at times..... too poor to pay attention. You are not alone in this Paul. But with me these days it's more of an advanced case of CRS due to old age. ;)

Just so you know... NONE of them came with a 2bbl. :cool2:
The base version had a 1 bbl and the high output models had a Qjet.

Théy made 1 bbl's:D

SB,
Very cool, I hope you will/can share some of that info;
This is IMO a truly unique OHC 6 Pontiac.


Paul,
Here is some useless info; to broaden your newly acquired OHC knowledge ;)
The '66 SPRINT OHC 6 was the first to use the new Quadrajet 4BC carb,
GTO's didn't get them until '67 :p

Cool wagon. Nice find.

Paul, the 1 bbl was hell when you tried to pass a car on a 2 lane highway back then. LOL

Not useless information at all. Honestly info I did not know. Cool stuff.

Maybe I should read more in the cammer tech section.

I can't even imagine. Never driven any car with a single barrel carb.

I've ridden in a few back in the late 50s and early 60s. It was scarry sitting there when my granddad decide to pass a car. Grandma would holler.. "George, watchout for the car!", and cringe.

What a cool find! I love the wagons too, and I love mine, albeit mine wasn't a 6 cyl originally, so I had no qualms about swapping in a 428.

Enjoy your new wagon... I know you'll love it! :D

If I had a collection, Id have a 66 wagon. They just scream cool. Nice car.

I'd love to find a 66 wagon like it but modify it. As in using the rear and grafting it to a non original 66 GTO so you'd have a 2dr HT wagon.

Best of both worlds except for the 66's louvered tail lights. Only for a wagon could I live without em. ;)

Great car, I love wagons. I've had an itch for a wagon for about 10 years now. Now for the GTO tail lights in the wagon, I saw a wagon about 20 years ago at a show here in MI. somewhere near Grand Rapids if I remember correct, there was a guy with awagon that he had grafted in the 67 style tail lamp into the back door & filled in the original tail lamps so it looked like the GTO rear but it was just inset a little. It looked good but because it was a little farther in because he had to have them all in the rear door it looked a little out of place , but you got use to it. I don't know where the car is now. Haven't seen it for about 15 or so years now.

That would be like the El Camino with the 66 GTO front clip on it. He grafted the 66 tail lights in the tailgate and that really looked strange, and out of place.

Yes I think if there was a way to split them & have them go all the way to each side it would have looked better & more balanced.

Thanks again for the compliments! I put the car in storage the other day before the recent snowfall and temp. drop. I can not wait to get the master cylinder changed and drive it! Of course I am waiting for good weather.

Nice to see another wagon here. Rare engine option as well. Nice car.:)

Goatwgn, if that's yours, you have to get it up to the PY show this year. If not... steal it and get it to the show. ;) LOL I wanna see you parked next to me in the Mod group.

I love the GTO option wagons! This one won't get that treatment, but like what you guys have done. I am somewhat tempted to add Sprint options though! (in dash or hood tach, Stripes, etc.)

''car wasn't advertised..." Started screaming why didn't I find that until I saw your statement. I'm not far from F'burg and would have jumped all over it... I keep looking for an old wagon. Nice find, have fun with it

So Cool
 

As much as I hate the use of the word/description "RARE";
I will say out of the 470+ known OHC 6 Pontiac's I have on file only 5 are wagons, this being one of them.
That would make calling this wagon RARE acceptable ;)

The tach I could see as a nice add-on, but IMO NO STRIPES.
It's not a sprint and that's what makes it unique.

Is the interior original? she sure is clean.
What rear is in her?
Do you have the build sheet/PHS?

Great Pontiac, deserves to be persevered.

That's awesome! Do you have more pics?

Jeff on the tailgate, is the Pontiac emblem all one piece with the bottom piece? I can't get close enough in the pic to tell.

The picture with the brown car - must be grandpas car, if not the guy who inherited grandpas car. It's too nice

Jeff,

I have the original window sticker and bill of sale! No PHS. Would there be any advantage to getting it if I have the other info? The car has an original interior and needs a bit of attention. One of the previous owners cut the door panels for speakers and the rear panels are sun baked pretty bad. I have some original door panels and will eventually repair and redye them to all match. The driver's side of the bench has a couple repairs in the vinyl that will also need fixed. It looks good in the pictures though! I am not going to do the Sprint option. Just the thought entered my mind. This is the reason I was asking the difference between 66 and 67 in dash tachs.....

Nice car Sprintbird! As far as a tach goes, Jeff would know better than me, but I believe that the '66 & 67s are painted a slightly different color. You would also need one that was for a 6 cylinder not a 8. A '67 sprint car might be the only place to find one. Jerry.

Paul,
Looking at the '66 Fisher book it does show it as a one piece emblem.
Shown as for Tempest Custom Wagon W/o wood grain.
Since SB's is a '67 I think it safe to say this applies to both years.

I think you are correct on the gauge faces being slightly different in shade/color,
Pete Serio would be the go to guy for exact details.

Adding a tach would be a real event as it's not just a tach if you use the Factory Rally Cluster. However there is one aftermarket unit designed to be installed where the clock sits but is has the 55K red-line [V8]
FWIW I ran a V8 tach for years until I secured a correct 65K OHC tach.

Don't know if PHS would offer further details.
Can you scan the window sticker, would love to see the engine code info.
Thanks

I know a guy that has one he'd probably sell.

Paul,
I knew I had something in my files...
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Originally Posted by Jeff Hamlin View Post
Adding a tach would be a real event as it's not just a tach if you use the Factory Rally Cluster. However there is one aftermarket unit designed to be installed where the clock sits but is has the 55K red-line [V8]
FWIW I ran a V8 tach for years until I secured a correct 65K OHC tach.

I know a guy that has one he'd probably sell.


I am listening....

Jeff, I believe the rear is the stock 3.23 open diff. I have not had a chance to find the code, and the window sticker does not show anything regarding rear axle ratio.

Its mine.LOL. And Thanks for the compliment.:) Has been for 32 years.:) Was my stepdads before that. Every year I want to go to that show and it seems like sonmething always comes up. Will try and make it again this year. I used to go to the one at VA Motorsport park near Petersburg but they stopped doing that one.:( Just a couple of days ago (New years day in fact) I took everything apart to get the engine ready to come out so I can change my camshaft to something a little more streetable in my 455. Going to do some underhood detailing while I have it out. Changing out torque convertor as well. Getting my new cam broke in on a test stand. Should have it all back together at the end of Jan/ beginning of Feb.

The "PONTIAC" emblem on the '66 and "67 wagons are all one piece and not seperate letters like the 2 and 4 doors

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Attachment 348427 This blue one is a race car that was at VA. Motorsport Park in 2010 that has been featured in HPP and you can find in a couple of runs cleaning house on You Tube.

the last OHC 4bbl motor i had came from a 67 wagon supposidly...i argued with the guy no way...he said it was factory, and i said it was put in..but..i guess i was wrong..never heard of one..3 speed stick too...

I just uploaded some more. I had a lot more, but my computer crashed about a month ago and I lost some. I had some on my phone I just put up there.

I thought I remembered that wagon...

Attachment 348433 This isnt the outside of the car of course, but here is one I found of the gear vendors being installed before the exhaust went back in.

Thanks Jeff.:) I like that picture better than the one I took. Which car there was yours? Was it the Blue Tempest Sprint? That is a really nice car.

The other problem besides the redline being different between the V8 & 6 cylinder tachs is the reading is going to be off. the V8 tachs count 4 sparks as a revolution & the 6 cylinder tachs count 3 sparks as a revolution. Using an 8 cylinder tack on a 6 will give you a low RPM reading. Some aftermarket tachs have settings so you can use them on 4, 6 or 8 cylinder engines.

I sent him a PM to look in here. He's in Colorado for the holidays.