BARRETT JACKSON 2014
 

1972 Formula 455 just sold for 29 500

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...ln=138&aid=525

Color change and wheels hurt it in my opinion

Nice looking car.......who can argue with a "loaded HO"?

Anaconda Gold (original color) would have made it look BETTER...

I do recall seeing it in HPP,but thinking it's been through Ebay recently?....or maybe in the "shark tank"?

I was at the BJ kick off cruise at the Pavilions this past Saturday and bought my tickets for this coming Friday. I'll be there to check out some stuff and say hi to a few customers. 1400 cars this year, should be a good showing. Always a good time.

here's the recent post on the Formula 455HO:
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=743182

I wouldn't expect high sales this early in the week, especially a Tuesday. Must not of been considered cream of the crop to go so early on the block so that should tell you something. Still though, a final sale price of $32k seems like pretty decent money for a car of this caliber. Seller should be happy.

I will say who ever bought it will have room to work with whats there.

AG isn't a bad color if one so chooses. Sheetmetal looks good. Interior is nice and has some neat options. Y99 (14 Inch honeys listed with rallys shown) if really intact also a great option for a Formula. Engine bay and all can be fixed...

Hope its still there on Friday so I can see it in person!

A win win?

Usually the cars that sell will sit there for the week. We'll see ;)

More money than I would pay for a car this incorrect, but it just goes to show a car doesn't have to be correct to sell for decent money. Just a matter of getting it seen in the right market.

I guess we see things different. Not a bad body (correct fenders) and nice color, nice original type (deluxe) interior, and under hood mostly there. Need a 2270 carb and some other pieces to make correct.

What do you see that is the most work and not worth that money?

Granted it is shown in auction pictures which only shows the good stuff. Body could be bad and underside rotted, and more I guess...

Actually I'm more open to cars like this, more so than I guess I'm coming accross. It's not that I see it as a bad car, I just wouldn't pay that much for a formula with a non original color and missing certain parts and pieces. If I were to do a color change I would have at least picked a factory color for that year.

Not much more money and you could have yourself a pretty darn nice TA.

Don't get me wrong, Sunset Orange is a beautiful color that looks great on anything, but painting a classic muscle car that color sort of sets the tone for the rest of the car to have custom touches. I'll admit at least it's not black or red. I wouldn't miss it if I didn't have to paint another car that color. I've grown to like the obscure stuff I guess.

Hard to judge these cars overall until you see them in person. Like you said, they look great on TV and in pictures, but when you walk around and see them in person you start to realize why some cross the block with low numbers and why others command a premium.
This car would have actually done better if it were scheduled for prime time this weekend, but obviously there is something about the car that made them feel it was better suited for the Tuesday spotlight? Whether it was the color change, or something else we can't see on camera? It will be interesting to look at Friday.

72 Formula HO
 

I think that is about top dollar for a car that needs to be stripped bare to correct the color change. How much would that cost in todays body/paint shop dollars? It is a nice looking car, but a lot of it needs to be correctly restored which will cost more than a non #'s matching car is worth. (in My opinion) That said, I would stiil love to have it!

Some production numbers by Lloyd:

1972 Formula 455-HO total = 276

1972 Trans Am with M22 = 458
1972 Trans Am with M40 = 828
1972 Trans Am total = 1,286

Total 1972 455-HO TAs and Formulas= 1,562

Not sure on split but it could be close to TA M22/M40?

A rare 72 Formula 455 HO w/ Y99, gauges, and factory spoiler loaded with options is as desirable as a rare 72TA? Someone thought so...

I looked that car over pretty hard. It had an SR block, late model Chevrolet q jet and an HEI distributor. I thought what it got was good for the seller. Buyer may not feel the same way though.

Tuesday is one of the best days IMO. We did very well with a 55 resto mod Bel Air last night.

I like the color of it. Its sharp.

The color DOES look good on that car....BUT....it's potentially one of.... say....150 or so 1972 W66 LS5's (with automatic trans)....

What would a "non-original" paint color do to the value of your 71 T/A?..........I'd say,it would reduce the value of the car an amount equal to the cost of repainting,in the correct....or at least a factory available color...

Different story if this were a base bird, Esprit or started life as a Formula 350.......JMO

Jack Ferris...could use a little help if your still there. please see my post from the lobby. thanks!!!


http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=745518

Formulajones...

could use a little help if this car is still there on friday. please see my post from the lobby. thanks!!

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=745518

Sure can.

Sent you a PM.

got it. Thanks!

Thats the beauty of my T/A..... it isnt one. It was a gold on tan Esprit.:eek:

Do I think it hurt the value of the car in question having a color change? To a few people it does, but I think that most people who are buying cars at these auctions are buying them because they like them for what they are. Most are buying cars to drive and enjoy. The car not wearing its original color is not a issue for me. In fact, I think it looks better.

I will look for the car Thursday.

Since I'm not sure about this i'll make it a question. In 73, the Y99 Suspension
upgrade also got you 15 inch wheels. This 72 states Y99 and 14 inch wheels.
So my question is, were 15 inch wheels part of Y99 in 72?

Yes in 72 y99 is 15 wheels steelies standard or options includes rally I or honeys listed on phs.

Are there any other early second gen birds in this years Scottsdale BJ and RM?

I was wondering the same thing on the 1st and second Gen Birds. From what the Judge members are posting it seems that Pontiac is on the rebound.

Nice 69 TA with nice restoration blue guts auto. Should do well...

Pictures please :) ... and vin numbers if you can get them.

Enjoy the event

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...ps57c86c31.jpg


http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...ps0e09969f.jpg

Couldn't get a lot more packed around cars..

Mike is that the one that crossed the block selling for $135.000 ?

It was the only real TA there.

pictures and VIN #'s are posted on the run lists.

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...1045.1&aid=525

Here my engine bay shot...http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...psbcc247a4.jpg
Here my interior shot. Fwiw
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...psa5b6e0e8.jpg

Must have broke their website?

:D

(can't connect)

:confused:

Works for me?

Detailed Information
Lot Number: 1045.1
Auction: SCOTTSDALE 2014
Status: SOLD
Sale Type: NO RESERVE
Price: *$148,500.00
Year: 1969
Make: PONTIAC
Model: TRANS AM
Style: 2 DOOR HARDTOP
VIN: 223379L119239
Exterior Color: WHITE
Interior Color: BLUE
Cylinders: 8
Engine Size: 400
Transmission: 4-SPEED AUTOMATIC

yes, i'm having the same troubles....:smash:

Not at BJ that I saw, other than the 72 Formula mentioned earlier, I didn't see any other 70-73 birds, formy's or TA's that caught my eye, especially from 70-71-72. I did see quite a few 67-69 birds this year though. Also saw more orange 69 judges than usual, so many I thought I was lost and walking in circles :D

Not to take this too far off subject, just a gripe really that I heard alot of people talking about this weekend.....

What's with all the various channels throughout the week broadcasting BJ??? I've counted 4 different channels at different times, some switching in the middle of the day, even on the fox business channel? Today it's on some other channel, and then at prime time tonight, probably the biggest night for BJ, it's broadcast on National Geographic? Talk about odd. I know Speed is gone but why couldn't they find one channel and stick with it?

I gave up earlier this week and quit watching it, too much trouble. I have a feeling their viewing audiance count is going to be down this year. Hopefully BJ takes notice and corrects it for next year.

I to heard of all the channel changes but I watched it on Speed since Tuesday and did not have to look for it on other channels

Interesting that you still have Speed. That channel died down here late last year and is no longer available on DirecTV.

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It is considered extremely rude in the U.S.A.to not comment on a new thread, especially if you are from Canada

WHAT !!!

WHAT!!
 

yes, you know exactly what I am talking about.....and sometimes I hate everyone because I am an a AMERICAN!!

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I have Bell Satellite tv almost the same as DirectTv and it is still on . Maybe it's a Canada thing or something. The funny thing is after I posted that post about 20 minutes later the Barrett-Jackson broadcast when off at around 10:30 right in the middle of them talking and the Supercross was on . The SPEED sign is still in the top right side of the screen.

Okay!!! whatever turns your crank

ps. no clue what you are talking about

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Keep Pat, NJSTEVE, all the greats and yet I cannot comment on this thread,,,,CANADA is for SUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!peace to the middleeast G

NEVER INSULT US!!!!!!!!!!
 

you know what I am talking about!...!!!!!!!

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If you post a thread, and cannot visit a thread that is posting at the same time as your own thread...especially in America it is considered rude 72 TA MAN whatever

I do visit every thread several times a day on this 70-73 forum and after that I visit the ones from that day from the whole PY forum but it doesn't mean that I have to post something in yours.

NEVER INSULT US!!!!!!!!!!
Look who is insulting who.