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marxjunk 01-17-2014 03:17 PM

HEADS UP KEISLER TRANSMISSION files for bankruptcy
 
Pay attention if ya ordered one...posted on the chevelle site...I have no idea how they found it

http://business-bankruptcies.com/cas...ngineering-inc

David Jones 01-17-2014 03:22 PM

They've been robbing Peter to pay Paul a long time.
I hate it for the employees but not for the namesake.........

Overkillphil 01-17-2014 03:27 PM

No surprise. But it could also be a good opportunity for Autogear or McCleod since they never came through with their 5 speed trans.:rolleyes:

GTO Dan 01-17-2014 03:29 PM

If this is true (and it appears to be), they are liquidating and not reorganizing. Sad to see, especially for anyone owned money or product.

arbys 01-17-2014 06:07 PM

I'm not that familiar with their transmissions but what are people with those transmissions to do about replacement parts? Sad all the way around.

7072 01-17-2014 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arbys (Post 5110304)
I'm not that familiar with their transmissions but what are people with those transmissions to do about replacement parts? Sad all the way around.

We are SCREWED!!

David Jones 01-17-2014 06:13 PM

A TKO is a TKO. :)

Transporter 01-17-2014 06:18 PM

I don't know anything about the parties or the BK, but I have looked at the product and was thinking of getting one.

I wouldn't be surprised if some larger company didn't step in and buy the assets for pennies on the dollar and start building them under a re-marketed name.

All of the design and development work is done, a company would have far less of an investment rebooting this program than starting from scratch.

The product with it's number of gears, spacing, tq capacity and direct fit profile probably has a broad niche.

JMHO,
Stan

geeteeohguy 01-17-2014 06:25 PM

I posted several months ago when David Jones was going through h3ll trying to get his trans....my main concern was that such a shaky company would go bankrupt, leaving trans owners out in the cold regarding warranty, parts, and service. That alone was reason enough not to risk a purchase. And, it has come to pass. A great idea and product, but under-funded and produced by 'car guys' and not businessmen. A sad situation, indeed.

7072 01-17-2014 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeteeohguy (Post 5110324)
I posted several months ago when David Jones was going through h3ll trying to get his trans....my main concern was that such a shaky company would go bankrupt, leaving trans owners out in the cold regarding warranty, parts, and service. That alone was reason enough not to risk a purchase. And, it has come to pass. A great idea and product, but under-funded and produced by 'car guys' and not businessmen. A sad situation, indeed.

I got mine, but it was a fight, and had plenty of problems. I guess I was one of the lucky ones.

David Jones 01-17-2014 06:45 PM

I believe Transporter is right. There will be parts and service somewhere. It may take a while to firm up. I can't believe Keisler's in house products were completely proprietary. They modified my TKO but that was limited to shaving on the case to ease install. The offset shifter I believe was in house too?

MikeNoun 01-17-2014 06:53 PM

They'll most likely bounce back.

Crane Cams went bankrupt in 2009, Barry Grant went bankrupt in 2009, Holley went bankrupt in 2008, and MSD Ignitions in 2013.

They all came back.

David Jones 01-17-2014 07:15 PM

If so, how many innocent folk get screwed in the process? I wonder how many orders they took knowing they'd never fill them?

Transporter 01-17-2014 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Jones (Post 5110363)
If so, how many innocent folk get screwed in the process? I wonder how many orders they took knowing they'd never fill them?



That, is a good question?



I am not defending them, (have no idea who "them" is) but to be honest, going BK might not of been their choice, it may have come down to a bank closing the door even thought the company may have been climbing out of the hole.

They may have had every intention of filling every order, but got overruled by whom ever they owed money to, it happens.

Half-Inch Stud 01-17-2014 10:01 PM

Curious for data: Did a Keisler Stick Transmission make it down the 1/4 mile going 10's or quicker?

marxjunk 01-17-2014 10:31 PM

up to $10 mill in the hole...

i would imagine there will be lawsuits etc after the fact, because today, you can order a trans, and they will take your money..

im sure their intellectual property is for sale..or will be, i cant see the courts letting them keep that..

from day one, ive heard nothing but bad stuff..then it got a little better..poor business practices for sure...

400 4spd. 01-17-2014 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Jones (Post 5110363)
If so, how many innocent folk get screwed in the process? I wonder how many orders they took knowing they'd never fill them?

I've seen the list. It's as long as my leg.

400 4spd. 01-17-2014 11:20 PM

Well, almost.


Creditors

Abundant Manufacturing, Inc.
ADAM CAVALIER
ADAMS GARAGE
ADVANCE AUTO PARTS
AL DECKARD
AL GRECO
AL RITTER
ALAIN GAGNE 2
ALBERT JONES
ALBERT MELCHIOR

show 586 more creditors…

Alcoa Tenn FCU
Alcoa Tenn Federal Credit Union
ALL TRANSMISSION PARTS
ALLOWAY CORP
ALLSTATE CONTAINERS, INC
AMERICAN CLASSICS
AMERICAN OVERDRIVES
AMERICAN SPEED CENTER
AMERICAN SPEEDSHOP
AMOS PRESS, INC.
ANDERS PERSSON
ANDREW JEWELL
ANDY HIXSON
ANTHONY GRACE
ANTHONY GUILLEBEAU
ANTHONY MARCHIO
ANTHONY SILVA
ARG STAFFING
ART MCADAMS
ART PAAPE
AUTO DOCTOR OF WARMINSTER
Auto Trader Publishing
B & E PERFORMANCE
BARRIE CARSON
BART IMMINGS
BART PINSON
BB& T
BERTELKAMP AUTOMATION, INC.
BEST OF SHOW AUTOMOTIVE
BIG 3 PERFORMANCE
Bill Baer
BILL BOYNETT
BILL CASEY
BILL KUSHNICK
BILL LEVKNECHT
BILLET BADGES INC
BLACK BOX NETWORK SERVICES
Blake & Pendleton
Blount County Clerk
Blount County Trustee
BLUE SKY CLASSIC CARS
BOB BEAUREGARD
BOB DEPALMA
BOB HAZEL
BOB MARTELLA
BOB PETROKAS
Bob Schulli
BOB STAGG
BOB'S HOT ROD SHOP
BOERNE STAGE BODY SHOP
BOISE MUFFLER SHOP
Boxing Cat Automotive
BRAD ERICKSON
BRAD HANSON
BRAD RANDALL
BRADLEY WAITKUS
BRADY HESS
BRAND MOFFATT
BRANDON IURATO
BRAU HOLDINGS LLC
BRET WHITE
BRETT WARNER
BRIAN BELL
BRIAN HOPE
BRIAN JULIEN
BRIAN KERNS
BRIAN LANGFORD
BRIAN SCHMID
BRIAN WILLIAMS 4
Bristol Motor Speedway
BRYAN DODDS
BRYAN ERICSON
BRYAN RAINES
BRYCE GOODMAN
BUZZY BONDURANT
CABIN CREEK SPECIALTIES
CALEB MEEKHOF
CALVIN NABORS AUTOMOTIVE
CAM AUTO CREATIONS
CARL AGURCIA
CARL FISHER
CARL WELLS
CARL YORK
CARLO BETTINELLI
CAROLINA CUSTOM RIDES
CASEY LING
CASSIDY'S ROD & CUSTOM
CCR 9 PRODUCTIONS, LLC
CENTURY SPRING, CORP.
CERTIFIED TRANSMISSION
CHAD MONTHAN
CHARLES FATSEAS
CHARLES MEADOWS
Charley Trotter
CHARLIE KLERNER
CHET VARNER
CHRIS CERVELLI
CHRIS CORRIDON
CHRIS FOLEY
CHRIS RODGERS
CHRIS SAVIO
CHRIS STUMPF
CHUCK JENNE
CHUCK ZITO
City of Maryville Electric
CLARK BOWDRY
CLASSIC & PERFORMANCE CARS LTD
CLIF HENRY
CLYDE STEWART
COLIN SCHISCHKA
COLT JOHNSON
COLTON HOFFMAN
CONRAD RICKS
CONSOLIDATED TRANSMISSIONS
CONTEMPORARY CLASSICS
Copper Conferencing
Cor-Tenn Company
CORVETTE CENTER OF HI
CORVETTE CENTRAL INDUSTRIES
CORVETTE CONVERSION CENTRE
CORVETTE MALBURG
CORVETTE MIKE 2
CORVETTE RESTORATIONS
CORVETTE SCHWEIZER & US CARS
COVERALL OF EASTERN TENNESSEE
CRAIG CLARKE
CUSTOM CARS UNLIMITED
CUSTOM CLASSICS, SA
D&P CLASSIC CHEVY
DAISY AUTO CARE
DALE HODSON
DALE LATIMER
DAN COVERT
DAN EUSTACE
DAN WAGNER
DANIEL SWAIN
DANNY STEININGER
DARIN MYERS
DARK HORSE CUSTOMS
DARREN HANCOCK
DAVE AGUIAR
DAVE BISHOP
DAVE BOREY
DAVE BOURQUEIN
DAVE GARBER
DAVE GOTTA
DAVE HARMER
DAVE HILL
DAVE HOCANSON
DAVE MCWILLIAMS
Dave Odehnal
DAVID ALDRIDGE
DAVID AUSMAN
DAVID BERRY 2
DAVID BRYANT
DAVID GONZALES 3
DAVID GROSS
DAVID INGRAM
DAVID MCCULLOUGH
DAVID SANDAGER
DAVID YOUNGBERG
DEAN DAVIS
DEAN HEIDEMAN
DEAN HUSTLER
Delta Research Corp.
Deltacom
Department of the Treasury
DEREK MELHORN
DEUCES WILD HOTRODS AND CUSTOMS INC
DEVLIN ROD AND CUSTOMS
Diamond Systems, LLC
DON HUTTON
DON'S EAST COAST RESTORATIONS
DONALD DICKINSON
DONALD POWELL
Donna B. Walker, CPA
DONS EAST COAST RESTORATIONS
DOOLEY AND SONS
DOUG SORRELL
DOUG TUMBLESON
DOYLE BAYER
DUNTOV MOTOR COMPANY
DUSTIN JONES
EDDIE HIXSON
EDWARD KIM
EMPLOYERS PREFERRED INSURANCE COMPANY
ENGINE FACTORY
ERIC COOKE
ERIK MARTINSEN
ERISA SERVICES
EXPRESS PACKAGING
FALCO
FAST FREDDIE'S
FERGUSON DRIVE SHAFT
FIRMAN AMBERG
First Tennessee
FLOYD FURR
FRANCISCO SAA
FRANK CERRATO
FRANK DANKERT
FRANK MAROTTA
FRANK VERNOLA
FRED FOSTER
FRED ZWIGER
FREDRIK BENGZON
FRITZ KESSLER
FROG SPECIALTIES
GABE LORETI
GALEN VASCONCELLOS
GARY FIFER
Gary Stewart 2
GATEWAY CLASSIC MUSTANG
GENE DEL BELLO
GENE KEETON
GENERAL LEE TRADING
GEORGE MONTANARO
GEORGE RAMUSACK
GERARD MOURIES
GERRY MARUMOTO
GILLES GUZZO
GLENN PUTEK
GRAEME WILSON
GRAHAM MCDONALD
GRANT RIMBACK 1
GREENVILLE MOTOR SPORTS
Greg Brittingham
GREG JOHNSON 4
GREG MACE
GREG NICKERSON
GREGORY BERGAMASCHI
GROUND UP
GULDSTRAND CORVETTE
HAMLIN AUTO
HAROLD HIEBERT
Harris Publications, Inc.
HENRY VEENSTRA
HH AUTO PARTS OF ELYRIA
HIROYUKI ARAI
HIS PLACE
HOFFMAN AUTOMOTIVE 2
HOLLEY SMITH
HOLSTON GASES
HOWIE JEFFRIES
HP Performance, LLC
IMAGE MATTERS
IMT YORK
INNOVATIVE CUSTOM ENGINEERING
Internal Revenue Service
JAMES GUERRIERO
JAMES MOODY III
JAMES NEWTON
James R. Keisler III (Trey)
JAMES THOMPSON 3
JAMIE WILLIAMS
JANO MIKAJ
JASON CARLSON
JASON EDWARDS2
JASON NOSKO
JASON PARSONS
JC RODRIGUEZ
JEAN LATIMER
JEFF CAIN
JEFF DAUBERT
JEFF LINDEN
JEFF NEUFELD
JEFF POLLARD 2
JEFF PURCELL
JERE CLARKE
Jeremy Parker
JET-FAB INC.
JIANGLING MOTORS IMP. & EXP. CO., JMIE
JIM BROWN 3
JIM CAIN
JIM CONDON
JIM FORD
JIM GLASS
JIM JARRETT
JIM MAYS
JIM THOMPSON1
JK MOTORSPORTS
JODY HALL
JOE ALEXANDER
JOE COTTNER
JOE MIKEL
JOE MOSIER 2
JOE STOPSKI
JOEY TOCCI
JOHN BOURGEOIS
JOHN GRINDER
JOHN LANDRY
JOHN MCCARTHY 2
JOHN PARTHEMORE
JOHN RUSH 2
JOHN STANNERS
JOHN STRATTON
JOHN TOMASSETTI
JOHN YDE
JOSEPH MEDLIN
KEITH DIXON
KEITH ROMAN
KEITH'S ROD & CUSTOM
KEN ALDEN
KEN COOK 3
KEN HUTTEMA
KEN PRATT
KEN REIMER
KEN SAUCIER
Ken Schliessman
KENNETH SNOW
KENNETH TERRY 2
KEVIN CELLEY
KEVIN EAKLE
KEVIN FLEET
KEVIN FRYER
KEVIN LEWIS2
KEVIN NELSON
KEVINS AUTO RESTORATION AND REPAIR
King-Thompson, Inc.
Knox Chapman Utility District
KNOXVILLE RUBBER & GASKET
KOEHLKE COMPONENTS, INC.
KURT ANDERSON 2
LANCE CUNNINGHAM FORD
LARRY B. FURR
LARRY JONES2
LASER PRECISE, INC
Lawrence Cyburt
LE CLAIRE MANUFACTURING CO.
LEE COMSTOCK
Legend Gear & Transmission AR
LEWIS GARRETT
LIGHTNIN RODS
LKQ Automotive Core Services
LKQ- ALCOA #142
LOGAN WALKER
LOUIE HUNTER
LOVETT MACHINE PRODUCTS, INC.
LSC PERFORMANCE
Luedeka, Neely & Graham P.C.
LUKE LAPRAD
LYNN OLSEN
M DETAIL/BC CLASSIC AND PERFORMANCE
MAC MCMILLAN
MAGNA CLASSICS
MARK GEIGER
Mark Jendrek, P.C.
MARK W. SHERMAN
MARK WILKINSON
MARTIN HOERATH
MARYLAND MUSCLECAR
MATT HAUCK
MATT HENSLEY
MATTHEW PAYTON
MCACN, LLC.
MEL VOGELZANG
METRO MOLDED PARTS, INC
MICHAEL DeSOCIO
MICHAEL DIEHL
MICHAEL RIHA
MICHAEL RIVES
MICHAEL SPINO
MICHAEL TIMANUS
MIDLAND INDUSTRIES
MIKE FERRARRO
MIKE GEBHART
MIKE LANDALS
MIKE MACKEY
MIKE MAIBACH
MIKE MCBAIN
MIKE MILLER 3
MIKE MONDLOCH
MIKE NELSON2
MIKE PATRICK
MIKE PATTON
MIKE QUINLAN
MIKE SCOTT 2
MIKE YERKAN
MINGE'S UNIVERSAL SERVICE
MISTER TRANSMISSION
Misumi USA, Inc.
Mopar Collector's Guide
MOPAR SHOP GERMANY
Motion Industries
MOTOR STATE (PARTS)
MOTOR STATE DISTRIBUTING(Trans)
MSC
Muncie Casting Corp
MUSCLECAR ADDICTION
MUSCLECAR FACTORY
MYRON LUCE
NEAL HARE
NICHOLAS COOPER
NORMAN ABBOTT
NuCycle Toner & Ink
OFFICE DEPOT
PAT O'LINN
PATRICK GODIN
PATRICK WOODCOCK
PAUL CHAIT
PAUL GUILLAUME
PAUL ROWLING
PAUL SAUNDERS FORMERLY STERLING CUSTOMS
PAUL TOWER
PAUL WARNER
PAUL WASEMILLER
PAUL YOUNG 2
PEDER MANSSON
PERFORMANCE SOLUTIONS INC.
Peter Brooks(vendor)
PETER ISAACSON
PETTERI ULJAS
PHIL OBRIEN
PHIL SOUCY
PHILLIP HEBERT
Pitney Bowes Global Financial Svc, LLC
Pitney Bowes Postage Machine
PITNEY BOWES PURCHASE POWER
PORT MURRAY AUTO CRC RESTORATION
POSIES INC
POWERTRAIN CONTROL SOLUTIONS, LLC
PRECISION ENTERPRISES, INC.
Precision Millwrights & Consultants, Inc
PRECISION ROD & CUSTOMs
PRECISION ROD & CUSTOM
Prestolite Wire Corp
PRI
PROFORMS
PROMOTION PERFORMANCE PRODUCTS
PROTECH USA
Quality Tool & Gear, Inc.
R NEWTON
RABCO PRODUCTS CORP.
Radical Restorations
RAM CLUTCHES
RANDY WELCH
RAY BARTON RACING ENGINES
Ray Cavignac
RAY JARMUSZ
RAYMOND VIRGILE
RED DEER SPEED AND CUSTOM
REINER SCHMIDT
RESTORATION STATION
RESTORATIONS BY JULIUS
RICH IRELAND
RICH ROSETTI
RICHARD ARREDONDO
RICHARD ASH
RICHARD BORDELON
RICHARD ESQUEDA
RICHARD HILL
RICHARD MORLEY
RICHARD SOUTHWICK
RICHARD SPENCER
RICHARD STEVENSON
RICK CHOATE
RICK DAPELO
RICK KERSCHNER
RICK MANTHEI
RICK MARTIN
RICK PLATH
RIGHT STUFF INC.
ROBERT DIPPEL
ROBERT DUTRA
ROBERT ESTABROOK
ROBERT FRITZ
ROBERT GARCIA
ROBERT HITCH
ROBERT SHAPIRO 2
ROBERT WEBER
ROBERTO GUTIERREZ
ROD HOMEN
ROGER DENGEL
RON MALINE
RON SMITH
RON SNYDER
RONALD HANSEN
RONALD K MCVAY
RORY HOSTETER
ROSS DIEHL
ROYAL BRASS, INC
RUSSELL AUTO INC.
RUSSELL JONES
RYAN PRICE
RYAN THORSON
SAIA Motor Freight Line, Inc.
SAL GARCIA
SAM BURNETT
SAM RAMIREZ
SCHMIT PROTOTYPES
SCHOOL OF AUTOMOTIVE MACHINISTS
SCHULDT AUTO BODY
SCOTT HARGROVE
SCOTT MCCLURE
Scott Russell (emp)
SEAN CALVERT
SEIVERLING SERVICE INC.
Selective Insurance Company of America
SEMA SHOW
SHANE BOYLE
SHAUN CARTER 2
SHAUN VEST
SHEAN KELLEY
SHERMAN & ASSOCIATES,INC.
SMITHFIELD MANUFACTURING, INC.
SMITHS PAINT AND BODY SHOP
SOUTH GEORGIA CORVETTE
Southern Impact Research Center
SPECIALITY METALS
SPECTRA
SPEED SHOP BOEHI AG
SPOILED ROTTEN AUTO
STAN SMITH
STEVE DENAPLE
STEVE PUTZSTUCK
STEVE SALE
STEVEN ARMELIN
STEVEN RADOS
STINGRAY AUTO TECH
STINGRAYS VINTAGE CORVETTE PARTS
STONE MOUNTAIN AUTOMOTIVE
TAKANOBU WATANABE
TED HAYES
TED HRNCIREK
Tennessee Department of Revenue
Tennessee Department of Revenue Sales T
TEPPO INKINEN
TERRY HOLDER
TERRY LECLERE
Thomas Frysinger
THOMAS HART
THOMAS MCGAHAN
THOMAS PORTNER
TIM CARON
TIM DONOVAN
TIM FLINN
TIM GARDNER
TIM TYNER
TMJ AUTO
TN CLASSIC AUTO
TODD DISHON
TODD MORIYA
TOM AEVERMANN
TOM LANYON 2
TOM OKEEFE
TOMMY BENSBURG
TONY FUSCO
TONY HOLMAN 2
TR TRADING INC
TradeMark Designs, Inc.
TROY HULL
TROY MEEK
TROY'S TOY SHOP
TYLER FRANCO
TYSON EARNEST
U-line
United States Treasury
UNLIMITED LINEHAUL LLC
V. Alexander & Co., Inc.
VALTEK PRECISION INC
VAN HOLST AUTO LTD.
VAUDIE LADD
Verizon Wireless
VICTOR BEAUDRY
VICTOR WILLIAMS
VINCENT GIBSON
VINCENT TUFARIELLO
VIRGINIA LASER CORPORATION
VOLUNTEER VETTE PRODUCTS, INC.
WADE PETERS
WAGNER PRECISION ROTARY INSTRUMENTS, LLC
WALLY DREZDOFF
WALTER KILLIAN
WALTER OHR
Washing Equipment of Tennessee
WAYNE LAMERE
Wesley Chang
WILBUR JONES
Wildwood Properties
Wildwood Properties, LLC
WILHITE AUTO SERVICE
WILLIAM HICKMAN
WILLIAM ROUSH
Wright Tool, Inc.
XV MOTORSPORTS
ZACHARY CRIVELLI
ZF Services North America, LLC

marxjunk 01-17-2014 11:34 PM

holey moley.....look at all the normal peoples names...what a shame

400 4spd. 01-17-2014 11:37 PM

I bet that guy Internal Revenue Service gets his first!

niceta 01-18-2014 01:06 AM

Well I guess I can kiss my drive shaft goodbye!
What was Kauffman business relationship to keisler?

70pontiaction 01-18-2014 01:24 AM

If you paid with a credit card there's still hope
 
Call NOW and dispute the charges. You may get your money back.

GOAT WHORE 01-18-2014 01:24 AM

Crazy, that list! Wow! I recall a few guys here saying they were going to get on that list after plenty of people warning against it. :eek:

David Holmberg 01-18-2014 02:32 AM

If they were in fact taking orders they knew would never be filled, they are pure scum!

I suspect at least one name on that list won't care about a bankruptcy and will take matters into their own hands.

Txbobcat 01-18-2014 08:25 AM

If they owe that many they will not be coming back.

David Jones 01-18-2014 08:44 AM

Those folks floated Shafi's lifestyle. Sucks. Truly sucks.

David Jones 01-18-2014 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niceta (Post 5110598)
Well I guess I can kiss my drive shaft goodbye!
What was Kauffman business relationship to keisler?

The driveshaft they sent me now resides in the corner of the garage. I could have made a better one using a fence post.

zephyrracer 01-18-2014 09:51 AM

From what I gathered up is Keisler was a dealer and not a manufacture of the product although they did modify some parts for the trans, for the most part they purchased everything and did assembly at their location. Look at these two web sites for more info and everything still for sale and nothing to do with Keisler as a company.

http://www.legendgt.com


www.sprakerracing.com


Gregg

Transporter 01-18-2014 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 400 4spd. (Post 5110544)
Well, almost.


Creditors

Abundant Manufacturing, Inc.
ADAM CAVALIER
ADAMS GARAGE
ADVANCE AUTO PARTS
AL DECKARD
AL GRECO
AL RITTER
ALAIN GAGNE 2
ALBERT JONES
ALBERT MELCHIOR

show 586 more creditors…

Alcoa Tenn FCU
Alcoa Tenn Federal Credit Union
ALL TRANSMISSION PARTS
ALLOWAY CORP
ALLSTATE CONTAINERS, INC
AMERICAN CLASSICS
AMERICAN OVERDRIVES
AMERICAN SPEED CENTER
AMERICAN SPEEDSHOP
AMOS PRESS, INC.
ANDERS PERSSON
ANDREW JEWELL
ANDY HIXSON
ANTHONY GRACE
ANTHONY GUILLEBEAU
ANTHONY MARCHIO
ANTHONY SILVA
ARG STAFFING
ART MCADAMS
ART PAAPE
AUTO DOCTOR OF WARMINSTER
Auto Trader Publishing
B & E PERFORMANCE
BARRIE CARSON
BART IMMINGS
BART PINSON
BB& T
BERTELKAMP AUTOMATION, INC.
BEST OF SHOW AUTOMOTIVE
BIG 3 PERFORMANCE
Bill Baer
BILL BOYNETT
BILL CASEY
BILL KUSHNICK
BILL LEVKNECHT
BILLET BADGES INC
BLACK BOX NETWORK SERVICES
Blake & Pendleton
Blount County Clerk
Blount County Trustee
BLUE SKY CLASSIC CARS
BOB BEAUREGARD
BOB DEPALMA
BOB HAZEL
BOB MARTELLA
BOB PETROKAS
Bob Schulli
BOB STAGG
BOB'S HOT ROD SHOP
BOERNE STAGE BODY SHOP
BOISE MUFFLER SHOP
Boxing Cat Automotive
BRAD ERICKSON
BRAD HANSON
BRAD RANDALL
BRADLEY WAITKUS
BRADY HESS
BRAND MOFFATT
BRANDON IURATO
BRAU HOLDINGS LLC
BRET WHITE
BRETT WARNER
BRIAN BELL
BRIAN HOPE
BRIAN JULIEN
BRIAN KERNS
BRIAN LANGFORD
BRIAN SCHMID
BRIAN WILLIAMS 4
Bristol Motor Speedway
BRYAN DODDS
BRYAN ERICSON
BRYAN RAINES
BRYCE GOODMAN
BUZZY BONDURANT
CABIN CREEK SPECIALTIES
CALEB MEEKHOF
CALVIN NABORS AUTOMOTIVE
CAM AUTO CREATIONS
CARL AGURCIA
CARL FISHER
CARL WELLS
CARL YORK
CARLO BETTINELLI
CAROLINA CUSTOM RIDES
CASEY LING
CASSIDY'S ROD & CUSTOM
CCR 9 PRODUCTIONS, LLC
CENTURY SPRING, CORP.
CERTIFIED TRANSMISSION
CHAD MONTHAN
CHARLES FATSEAS
CHARLES MEADOWS
Charley Trotter
CHARLIE KLERNER
CHET VARNER
CHRIS CERVELLI
CHRIS CORRIDON
CHRIS FOLEY
CHRIS RODGERS
CHRIS SAVIO
CHRIS STUMPF
CHUCK JENNE
CHUCK ZITO
City of Maryville Electric
CLARK BOWDRY
CLASSIC & PERFORMANCE CARS LTD
CLIF HENRY
CLYDE STEWART
COLIN SCHISCHKA
COLT JOHNSON
COLTON HOFFMAN
CONRAD RICKS
CONSOLIDATED TRANSMISSIONS
CONTEMPORARY CLASSICS
Copper Conferencing
Cor-Tenn Company
CORVETTE CENTER OF HI
CORVETTE CENTRAL INDUSTRIES
CORVETTE CONVERSION CENTRE
CORVETTE MALBURG
CORVETTE MIKE 2
CORVETTE RESTORATIONS
CORVETTE SCHWEIZER & US CARS
COVERALL OF EASTERN TENNESSEE
CRAIG CLARKE
CUSTOM CARS UNLIMITED
CUSTOM CLASSICS, SA
D&P CLASSIC CHEVY
DAISY AUTO CARE
DALE HODSON
DALE LATIMER
DAN COVERT
DAN EUSTACE
DAN WAGNER
DANIEL SWAIN
DANNY STEININGER
DARIN MYERS
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You didn't say which "leg" either you are height challenged or I am jealous.

niceta 01-18-2014 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70pontiaction (Post 5110609)
Call NOW and dispute the charges. You may get your money back.

I tried calling yesterday and all i got was answering machine. I will keep trying. I am just glad I received my Trans, bell-housing and clutch.

Be interesting to know how much is owed to legend. Hopefully they don't get sucked down the drain with Shafi or should I say Shafti.

70pontiaction 01-18-2014 11:55 AM

Call your credit card company to dispute the charges
 
Don't waste time with the seller. They're done.

The credit card issuer is the one you need to file a dispute with.

Good luck!

JLHarper 01-18-2014 12:30 PM

^

Yeah you're right. The list is out, papers already filed.

That phone isn't going to be answered unless a creditor security guard happens to pick it up.

pugslyx234 01-18-2014 01:04 PM

I think if they knew and still took $ then thats willful Fraud punishable by law and maybe the bankruptcy could be stopped by the judge.

Dens71TA 01-18-2014 01:43 PM

There are some long waiting customers with partial down payments have stated on other online forums that Keisler called them last week asking for authorization to run the remainder of their order payment on their credit cards. At that point its hard to deny that the owner and at least some management at Keisler was full aware that they were about to file for bankruptcy.

On 1/15, a day before Keisler filed for bankruptcy, they posted a picture on their Facebook page "Check out our products at PRC" like business was usual. I posted a comment yesterday asking what will happen to their products now that they filed Chapter 7 and they deleted the comment along with disabling comments on everything they have posted. There is a pretty nasty review from a "David Gross" stating that Keisler has all his money for a year but have never shipped any product. Unfortunately he is on the list of creditors.

Bob Dillon 01-18-2014 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugslyx234 (Post 5110845)
I think if they knew and still took $ then thats willful Fraud punishable by law and maybe the bankruptcy could be stopped by the judge.

The chances of that are about zilch unless the creditor files a motion for exemption from automatic stay in the BK court. And even if the creditor does so, granting such a motion almost never prevails for unsecured creditors.

As above, if you can't get your credit card company involved, there's about a 99.9% chance you're screwed, blued and tattooed. :(

JLHarper 01-18-2014 02:45 PM

No personal knowledge of their products.....so what is/was their flagship product?

Their own Tremec overdrives, a Tremec distributor or did they custom mfg complete systems off Tremec tranny platform?

What were they (actually) manufacturing?

Half-Inch Stud 01-18-2014 05:08 PM

seems probable that 90% of those listed above are...YELLOW BULLET MEMBERS.
huh.

David Jones 01-18-2014 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLHarper (Post 5110926)
No personal knowledge of their products.....so what is/was their flagship product?

Their own Tremec overdrives, a Tremec distributor or did they custom mfg complete systems off Tremec tranny platform?

What were they (actually) manufacturing?

I thought they were a Tremec dist when I bought my TKO. After getting the run around on my delivery date I discovered that Tremec wouldn't sell them anymore and that my TKO came through somebody else before Keisler modded it and delivered it to me. They tried doing some remanufactured transmissions they named RS500 and RS600, I forget what they were based on. Then they started with this SS700 when they got everybody all pissed off with their lack of delivery on the RS units. I think they've simply been taking deposits/payment on units and throwing that money towards satisfying people that had paid earlier.
It seems the pyramid hath collapsed.......

Dens71TA 01-18-2014 11:25 PM

Quote from a Legend Gear employee on a Buick forum:

Quote:

"The Legend Gear (if that's what he's(Keisler) calling the perfect fit) transmission was never his...he was our distributor...we paid the 2 million plus for the tooling and paid for design assistance...as car guys (we're ALL car guys at Legend) we wanted to address all issues including noise, torque rating, appearance, everything...we heard that we were getting a delivery black eye because of false information but that was never the case...if you call Jeff Spraker at Spraker Racing (704-799-1300) you will discover that your lead time is only 6-10 weeks...

I'm the sales manager, 67 GS owner, and I just bought one this week...we are truly sorry for those guys who left deposits but rest assured we didn't see any of that money...

We're still manufacturing OUR 5 speed transmission and will be on the creditor list with those who left deposits...and soon we'll be having good news for our customers by the way of very high profile customer endorsements...

Bruce Kepley, Legend Gear and Transmission, Statesville, NC"

Chris65LeMans 01-19-2014 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70pontiaction (Post 5110795)
Don't waste time with the seller. They're done.

The credit card issuer is the one you need to file a dispute with.

A few years ago, I put a deposit down for some custom furniture just before the place went belly up. My credit card co. got my money back - no problems at all. (I may have had to wait a month for them to get it.)

David Jones 01-19-2014 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris65LeMans (Post 5111464)
A few years ago, I put a deposit down for some custom furniture just before the place went belly up. My credit card co. got my money back - no problems at all. (I may have had to wait a month for them to get it.)

There has to be some money......

JLHarper 01-19-2014 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Jones (Post 5111337)
I thought they were a Tremec dist when I bought my TKO. After getting the run around on my delivery date I discovered that Tremec wouldn't sell them anymore and that my TKO came through somebody else before Keisler modded it and delivered it to me. They tried doing some remanufactured transmissions they named RS500 and RS600, I forget what they were based on. Then they started with this SS700 when they got everybody all pissed off with their lack of delivery on the RS units. I think they've simply been taking deposits/payment on units and throwing that money towards satisfying people that had paid earlier.
It seems the pyramid hath collapsed.......

I remember your thread now where you were having the problems.

I see reference in some threads to a (owner) lady and her lifestyle.....what's the back story on her?

pugslyx234 01-19-2014 03:55 PM

This is why you run your card as credit and not debit, debit your screwed, credit can dispute.

400 4spd. 01-19-2014 09:44 PM

This was posted on a similar thread over on Moparts.

An Important Message from Shafi Keisler, Founder of Keisler Engineering.

Dear Customers, Friends and Associates of KEISLER Engineering;

On January 16 2014, I halted operations of Keisler Engineering Inc by filing it into Chapter 7 Bankruptcy. The motivation to place KE into Ch7 was a very recent decision, spurred by a run of order cancellations and refunds by concerned customers. Many of these concerned customers had spoken to our competitors that have been pouring on the negativity and rumors of KE shutting down since 2008. These are primarily two (2) competitors - one located in Cookeville TN and the other in Sacramento CA.

The order cancellations created a cash flow problem for KE, and placed new customer orders at risk. I took the initiative to refund all new order deposits going back to Thursday January 9 2014 once I realized the company was at risk of closure.

KE had a bright start to 2013, filling nearly 400 SS700 orders, along with RS, TREMEC and A41. Sales numbers overall were strong for the first half of 2013. KE's second half of 2013 was marred by supply and pricing problems at Legend Gear & Transmission and its gear manufacturing partner Abundant Manufacturing Inc in Statesville NC. AMI's own business problems stifled production of the components needed to build the LGT700 base unit. This was worsened by KE's inability to pay its 2011/2012 past due to AMI of nearly $300K, along with Legend's own inability to pay its 2013 past due to KE of nearly $100K. Then Legend implemented a tremendous price increase to KE of $900 per unit in the 3rd quarter, and changed their selling terms to require a $1000 down payment 12 weeks in advance of shipping the non-customized LGT700 base unit. And every shipment of LGT700 units or components KE received had quality problems requiring weeks of delays while LGT had to replace parts. And no Legend assembled LGT700 ever met quality standard, which required KE to disassemble and rework, causing a major slide in delivery. Every one of these factors impacted KE's financial strength and the ability to fill these sold SS700 orders. I was seeking to replace Legend/Abundant Mfg with a better supplier for 2014.

The Rallye Sport program was well on its way to becoming a brand new transmission, and completely independent of Legend. At the time of KE's closure a majority of the orders were in-process to be completed.

The TREMEC program including the TKO and T56 was the foundation of the Keisler 5-speed so widely known since I developed these kits and the market as a whole starting in the late 90s. By 2005, KE was generating close to $1 Million dollars in NET profit, which is why the competitors referenced above were so keen to do whatever it takes to grab business away from KE. By 2008, my former sales manager GF and supposed friend RH who I gifted an entire business to him to begin his new career, unknowingly began selling the CA competitor's product under my name and customers called us complaining. I confronted them and learned they were not my trusted friends. In fact they used everything I taught them in sales, marketing to get their piece of the market pie at my expense. The new status quo with them and the CA competitor was to insult KE, and this became their method of operation ever since. The greed factor with GF/RH escalated to a new level in 2010 when they hired one of our longtime salesman to slander us publically in the forums and ultimately take more than 1.4 Million in sales from us, according to his deposition in Knox Chancery Court where he was deposed during the 2012 trial Keisler Engineering vs. Gene Charsha. During this trial, which the transcripts were written, GF took the stand and attempted to convince the judge that their business was substantially different than KE and that they were not a competitor. The judge did not agree with GF and ruled in our favor. But KE was saddled with over $30K in legal costs to fight this battle. Additionally a number of vendor relationships were further compromised as GF solicited some of KE's vendors to make the same product for his business, including propriety bellhousings and driveshafts components to name a few. Returning from the 2011 PRI trade show in Orlando FL, I had to go to one of my vendor's foundry and physically remove the Keisler owned Mopar big block bellhousing tooling that GF had them run parts for him. I recorded the conversation with this unscrupulous vendor and was just shocked to see how low some people will go. Indeed, KE's pockets were ripe to be picked by our competitors.

In 2010, KE was blindsided by TREMEC Corp (a Mexico corporation with offices in Detroit area) when they suddenly terminated our Elite Distributorship Jan 17 2010 with no warning and no cure period. We less than six (6) weeks to purchase product to fill remaining orders only, could not purchase any additional inventory, and the termination was non-negotiable. In fact, this was illegal practice in Tennessee law, but in Michigan law where my Distributorship Agreement was in place, it was acceptable practice. This action was taken by Lee Davis, the Director of US Sales operations at the time. In a recorded phone call between Lee Davis and my business manager Bruce Skolfield, Davis disclosed that he was fulfilling his intentions to terminate KE - his largest distributor in the Aftermarket and one that sold more than Ford Motorsports - because of his dislike of me and that my former sales people-turned-competitors would eventually fill the loss of KE to the market. The Mexican top management in Mexico City did not really care about the Aftermarket branch because the volume was small compared to the OEM volume and they let Lee Davis and his people do whatever they wanted with the Aftermarket as long as the OEM was taken care of. Years earlier, Lee Davis, over dinner at SEMA Las Vegas in 2005 November in the presence of four others including the current Manager for Tremec Aftermarket Sales, said very clearly that he was "going to knocks the legs out from under Keisler Engineering if KE did not do business his way." This was a total shock, and for the ensuing hour I was lambasted over multiple issues ranging from Davis not liking the Keisler 5-speed name being better known than Tremec name in the classic car aftermarket. Other unfounded grievances were the Tremec logo I used on every web page representing his product should have been bigger, or higher up on the page, that he didn't like the dark background color of the my web-site. It was at that dinner that I decided to pursue the diversification of KE and to not have all of my eggs in one basket. In the May of 2006, I purchased General Motor's MUNCIE Transmission manufacturing line at a cost of 3.89 Million Dollars ($3,890,000.00) under a new company - American Gear & Transmission - and moved these assets to Tennessee to start-up a new company This move to start a new American transmission company in the wake of GM Muncie's closure sealed KE's fate of Davis' threats. When the termination of KE's Elite Distributorship when down March 1 2010, within a few days the manager of Tremec Aftermarket Sales issued a letter to all 150+ distributors of Tremec mandating them not to sell to KE at any price - even full retail - or their distributorship would be TERMINATED. A second letter was sent out to the same effect and I have both of these letters. I sought legal advise about this, and learned what Tremec Aftermarket Sales was doing appeared to be "Boycotting" which is a Federal Trade law violation carrying very stiff penalties and triple damages to the offended party. But I would have to file suit in Federal Court in Michigan and the case would be expensive and lengthy because of the way Federal lawsuits are processed. At that point in time, I decided to focus on survival of KE and not pursue the lawsuit at that time. Within a couple months, I led formation of Legend Gear & Transmission with the owners of Abundant Mfg. and brought them the transmission design and marketing which is now known as the LGT700 and the Legend Gear & Transmission company. KE found a work-around for the Tremec's boycotting, and product continued to flow from several several distributors that were wise to Federal trade laws. Even though Tremec implemented a "secret shopper" scheme in 2010/2011 in efforts to stop this American Entrepreur's small business, I continued to press on. I kept all of this under my hat, all the while my competitors were bragging to our customers that Tremec did this. I have tried to take "the high road" through the years and always do what is right for the customer, the employees vendors ahead of my personal needs. Accordingly, in the months before closure of KE, I had not drawn a salary or income from the company. My wife and I downsized in a major way, putting the home and farm we built for sale and moving to a small rental home.

The process of building KE from a garage operations in 1991 to a company that has sold more than $65 Million Dollars of product to over 16,000 customers has not been an easy one, but it has been a rewarding one. It is my hope and expectation that buyers for the remaining assets of KE will purchase these and put the assets back to work in new companies. In fact, I sold the Keisler PerfectFit kit & manufacturing assets for Tremec TKO & T56 to Liberty Gears - a Tremec Elite Distributor in Taylor Michigan. Liberty Gears - a family run business - has been around since the 1960s and has tremendous capabilities that complement what KE was doing for the market. By adding the highly engineered Keisler TKO and T56 kits to Liberty's existing capabilities for internal upgrades, the resulting product line further places Liberty in a class of their own. I plan to support Liberty Gears in their pursuits to offer the very best Tremec TKO & T56 kits to the market. In my efforts going forward, I intend to work with the Trustee of Keisler Engineering for the benefit of every creditor of Keisler Engineering - both its customers and vendors - that had open balances. This process will take time and patience on everyone's behalf. I ask for your support and patience while the Trustee and I work thru the Chapter 7 process. I understand the frustration that those of you with standing orders or supplier accounts with KE will have, and I am sorry that you must endure this. But please work with us and brighter days will be ahead.

Sincerely,

Shafi Keisler, Founder, President & CEO thru Jan 15 2014
Keisler Engineering, Inc.

marxjunk 01-19-2014 10:11 PM

a lot of tap dancing there....for customers, i hope they are taken care of...

Ben M. 01-19-2014 11:51 PM

If you are blaming order cancellations on your inability to fulfill the current orders that you still have, that's a house of cards that deserves to collapse (I believe we call that a pyramid scheme). You're essentially saying that taking people's money to fulfill other people's orders is required to do business, but that only works when you continue to have more orders coming in (aka suckers who have the potential to be left in the cold).

David Jones 01-20-2014 08:44 AM

Mostly, he's full of ****. He ACTED like he was a Tremec Elite dist. He acted like he was a lot of stuff. It caught him. Blame it on order cancellations. Well, duh.

Trulyvintage 01-20-2014 09:38 AM

Kinda Ironic ....
 
Read the " Latest News " from their website .....

@ http://www.keislerauto.com/recent-news/

I guess #4 did not work out so well ..... :oogle:



Jim

400 4spd. 01-20-2014 11:49 AM

Maybe it was #6's fault.

Alvin 01-20-2014 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben M. (Post 5112325)
If you are blaming order cancellations on your inability to fulfill the current orders that you still have, that's a house of cards that deserves to collapse (I believe we call that a pyramid scheme). You're essentially saying that taking people's money to fulfill other people's orders is required to do business, but that only works when you continue to have more orders coming in (aka suckers who have the potential to be left in the cold).

Yup. PONZI.

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