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b-man 02-12-2016 11:19 PM

Tri-Power Intakes - Identification
 
Post your pictures of various year Pontiac factory Tri-Power intakes, to help aid in identifying them for those who are looking to put together a Tri-Power setup. Also post pictures of the correct thermostat housing for each intake if you can.

Hopefully we can end up covering all of them from 1957 through 1966.

1959, casting # 532422

The bare intake weighs 39.45 pounds.

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Correct cast iron thermostat housing for 1959, with built-in engine lifting loop. As you might imagine it's quite heavy, weighing in at 2.85 pounds.

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Here you can see how the lifting loop configuration of the thermostat housing was copied in .150" to .175" thick stamped steel for later engines, attaching to one of the studs that mount the timing cover.

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b-man 02-12-2016 11:25 PM

1964, casting # 9775088

The bare intake weighs 46.25 pounds. I'm betting this one's the heaviest of the factory Tri-Power intakes.

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Correct cast iron thermostat housing for 1964. It weighs in at 2.00 pounds.

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Comparison of 1964 Tri-Power thermostat housings, OEM and repro. The upper one with the raised pad under the casting number is the original piece. The repro piece is actually about 1/4" shorter (in overall height when installed) than the original.

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b-man 02-12-2016 11:29 PM

1965, casting # 9778818

The bare intake weighs 34.80 pounds.

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Correct cast iron thermostat housing for 1965. It's a lightweight at 1.40 pounds.

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...0.jpg~original

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b-man 02-12-2016 11:31 PM

1966, casting # 9782898

The bare intake weighs 38 pounds.

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Correct cast iron thermostat housing for 1966. It's a lightweight at only 1.50 pounds.

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Jack Gifford 02-14-2016 03:06 AM

The only Pontiac aluminum Tri-Power
 
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'61 SD Tri-Power

Carmine 03-08-2019 08:25 AM

Hi everyone. I have a tripower intake with carbs that I have owned for about 30 years or so. My intent was to rebuild it so I took the carbs off and apart, putting them in separate coffee cans. Never went any further with it. I knew at one time what that part number/date code was, but I forget. I can always get it again, but I think it was a very early 60's manifold. If I'm correct, would this fit on a '57 engine?? If not, what years would if someone knows?? Thank you, Carmine.

Sirrotica 03-08-2019 09:28 AM

Pontiac first gen heads and intake are 55-60, 1961 will not fit the earlier heads. 61-64 are the second gen, and 65-79 are the third gen.

tom s 03-08-2019 11:15 AM

Brad,the 61SD heads are a one year bastard head.It uses the 55-60 water pattern but the intakes made for them use the X over water donut so require a 61 timing cover.Gets a little confusing with the heads and intakes when they come up for sale.61SD tripower and 4 bbl intakes wont fit pass car 61 heads.Tom

Sirrotica 03-08-2019 11:48 AM

The chances of him having a 61 SD intake is slim, but I was speaking about daily driver applications, showroom stuff, is all.

Carmine 03-08-2019 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirrotica (Post 6000211)
Pontiac first gen heads and intake are 55-60, 1961 will not fit the earlier heads. 61-64 are the second gen, and 65-79 are the third gen.

Great info. Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very much, Carmine.

1969GiPper 03-08-2019 04:51 PM

Is it possible for a 65 intake to only have one threaded hole in the coolant passageway for the coolant temp sender/sensor on the driver’s side and none on the passenger side (like a 66 manifold)?

Dick Boneske 03-09-2019 02:35 AM

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Added info on the '64 Tripower intake manifold. Early '64 manifolds and those manufactured after sometime in February, 1964 have the same part number, 9775088, but the later manifolds have ribs on top of the water passage and on the entire bottom area. I believe these were added to increase the strength of the casting to avoid cracking.

Note that the big cars used the heater hose outlet as shown on the first picture. GTO's used a 45 degree fitting to tilt the heater hose outlet.

The first three pictures are of a '64 manifold cast date A284 (January 28, 1964). The second two pictures are of a later manifold, casting date G154 (July 15, 1964).

Keith Seymore 03-09-2019 10:01 AM

Excellent thread; subscribed.

K

Greg Reid 03-12-2019 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1969GiPper (Post 6000389)
Is it possible for a 65 intake to only have one threaded hole in the coolant passageway for the coolant temp sender/sensor on the driver’s side and none on the passenger side (like a 66 manifold)?

Yes. In fact, I never noticed that the one Bart posted photos of above had two.
What's up with that guys?

Carmine 03-24-2019 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore (Post 6000568)
Excellent thread; subscribed.

K

Ditto. A very nice thread by b-man. Alot of info there. Thanks for sharing that, Carmine.

hobbygto65 04-24-2021 11:09 PM

I noticed that some 65 manifolds have a round boss that sticks up right behind the thermostat housing, and some don't. Is this a way of telling big car tripower from GTOs?

Dick Boneske 04-25-2021 10:41 AM

Each year Pontiac Tri-Power intakes are identical for big cars & GTO’s. The boss you speak of is on ‘all 65 & ‘66 Tri-Power intakes.

carbking 06-20-2023 04:19 PM

B-Man just saw this thread, not sure if I have any pictures of bare intakes, will check, but here is a listing of casting numbers:

https://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Mu...bmanifolds.htm

At one time or another, I have had at least one of all of the Pontiac production tripower intakes.

Jon.

hobbygto65 11-22-2024 04:23 PM

If your 62 has a newer motor it won't fit.

oldman66gto 05-10-2025 09:08 PM

Tri-Power Intake to fit a 428
 
A COUPLE QUESTIONS:

1) Will a tri-power intake fit a "428"? Was told it will. I believe there's an adaptor available for the water fitting? Correct?

2) If so, which part number(s) intakes will fit?

3) Will the 428 "Vally" pan work?

4) I have an "HEI" distributor, and understand it will not work, due to diameter of the cap. Supposedly there is an "HEI" distributor made that will work, since it has a smaller diameter cap. What/where can the distributor be found, bought, or acquired?

Thanks for the help, for am ol man trying to live out his dream!;)

Allan

433lemans 05-10-2025 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldman66gto (Post 6564212)
A COUPLE QUESTIONS:

1) Will a tri-power intake fit a "428"? Was told it will. I believe there's an adaptor available for the water fitting? Correct?

2) If so, which part number(s) intakes will fit?

3) Will the 428 "Vally" pan work?

4) I have an "HEI" distributor, and understand it will not work, due to diameter of the cap. Supposedly there is an "HEI" distributor made that will work, since it has a smaller diameter cap. What/where can the distributor be found, bought, or acquired?

Thanks for the help, for am ol man trying to live out his dream!;)

Allan

#1) 65 and 66 factory tripower intakes will fit, as long as you have 65 - up heads. The timing cover needs to have the tripower "dimple" to make room for the water neck.
#2) b-man's posts at the beginning gives the part numbers you need.
#3) 428 valley pan will work.
#4) Someone else will need to chime in to answer, but yes there are small cap HEI distributors.
Good luck!

oldman66gto 05-10-2025 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 433lemans (Post 6564214)
#1) 65 and 66 factory tripower intakes will fit, as long as you have 65 - up heads. The timing cover needs to have the tripower "dimple" to make room for the water neck.
#2) Don't have the part numbers in front of me but easy to look up.
#3) 428 valley pan will work.
#4) Someone else will need to chime in to answer, but yes there are small cap HEI distributors.
Good luck!

Thank you so much. Appreciate the help!
Allan

Dick Boneske 05-10-2025 11:18 PM

I have Tri-Power on both of our 428’s . The ‘65 and ‘66 intakes fit with no issues..

Ours both have ‘64 heads, so we used the 9775088 manifold, which fits on all ‘61 through ‘64 heads.

b-man 05-10-2025 11:29 PM

Valley pans that definitely work with Tri-Power intakes have the PCV at the rear, so a 1967 428 rear PVC valley pan is a go. When the location of the PCV valve was moved to the front beginning in 1968 the entire design of the pan changed.

Personally I’ve tried using a 1966 Tri-Power intake using a 1969 valley pan, it was a no go as the intake hit the pan near the front and couldn’t be bolted down to the heads. Others have said that combination will work but I honestly can’t see it being possible.

Valley pans:

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...d.php?t=799934

3X24SPD 05-11-2025 05:34 PM

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This a 71 455 with a front mounted PCV Valley Pan and a 65 TP Intake.
No problem or interference.

3X24SPD 05-12-2025 04:08 AM

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This is another 455 with a stock valley pan and front mounted PCV. With a 65 TP Intake that has no interference issues.

3X24SPD 05-12-2025 04:10 AM

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This is the same 1972 455/Factory valley pan- with a 66 TP Intake. No issues.

3X24SPD 05-12-2025 04:15 AM

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This is an aftermarket PY (US Made) first run 66 TP on the same 455.
This intake has the water cross over removed, so you can see the clearance.
It's about .090" (without the intake gaskets installed).
No interference.

oldman66gto 05-12-2025 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3X24SPD (Post 6564349)
This is the same 1972 455/Factory valley pan- with a 66 TP Intake. No issues.

Thanks so much for your responses.
Glad to know I can add the new "tri-power" setup to mine, with no real issues!
Now just patiently waiting!


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