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Neil E 05-31-2016 08:57 PM

What a Shame! 72 SSJ on Craigslist
 
72 Hurst SSJ 4 Speed on Craigslist might be too far gone to restore.

http://athensga.craigslist.org/cto/5611514801.html

marxjunk 05-31-2016 09:32 PM

looks like a stick conversion..i dont think any 72 stick GPs where built..

might be wrong..i'm not really up on GPs

hurryinhoosier62 05-31-2016 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by marxjunk (Post 5582857)
looks like a stick conversion..i dont think any 72 stick GPs where built..

might be wrong..i'm not really up on GPs

I've never seen one, but I've only seen 2 SSJs,

ssj71 05-31-2016 10:16 PM

No manual GPs in 72. Very few in 71 as the option was cancelled early in the run.
Poor SSJ...

UPC-WU2 05-31-2016 11:02 PM

Green with green interior SSJ?
Would be awfully rare if it was legit.

supercar 05-31-2016 11:28 PM

It looks like a Hurst AutoStick shifter. Just a floor mount automatic shifter that looks like a manual trans shifter. I have seen them in the SSJ literature.

ssj71 05-31-2016 11:52 PM

Could be an Auto/Stick car, but that means it would have been a bench-seat car originally. Very hard to tell what's original on that car and what's not.

It's got the sunroof and the correctly placed exterior emblems, but would love to see better pictures...I, for one, can't conclude what exterior color that car would have been.

supercar 06-01-2016 12:17 AM

It kind of looks like Pewter.

ssj71 06-01-2016 06:14 PM

Needs a PHS....wonder if the seller has a copy.

UPC-WU2 06-02-2016 02:17 PM

Has anyone been able to contact the seller?
I emailed a couple of days ago. No response yet.

necdb3 06-03-2016 06:32 AM

I see the ad is no longer. Harvey, did you add another to the collection?

ssj71 06-03-2016 06:21 PM

Not me. Between me and Larry, our garages are bursting at the seams. Not into big restos either...

76WS4 06-07-2016 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by supercar (Post 5582915)
It kind of looks like Pewter.

Revere Silver and black upper 2 tone ,white stripes with black half roof. Pewter interior bench seat .

Diego 06-07-2016 12:43 AM

My friend just picked it up. Yes, it's got the bench seat with Auto-Stick. He says it's Pewter but who knows?

76WS4 06-07-2016 01:10 AM

Cool !

ssj71 06-07-2016 07:00 PM

Anything seems possible with the 72 SSJs. Would love to hear more about it and see a PHS on it...

76WS4 06-08-2016 11:22 AM

Silver/ black must be the only one in this color combo.

ssj71 06-08-2016 09:34 PM

There is another documented all silver with black SSJ that was given to George Hurst's accountant back in 1972.

428ho4spd 06-09-2016 02:24 PM

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There is another documented all silver with black SSJ that was given to George Hurst's accountant back in 1972.

This one...

ssj71 06-09-2016 07:54 PM

Yes, that's it. I believe that's the auction photo from around 2012 and I currently have no idea where that car is, but if I'm not mistaken, it sold at auction in St. Louis. Probably not helpful since those auction cars get shipped everywhere.

I have some paperwork somewhere on the accountant who owned that while working with Hurst.

ssj71 06-09-2016 07:56 PM

72 Silver SSJ
 
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Some pix...

MRGPHO 06-11-2016 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ssj71 (Post 5587425)
Some pix...

Thanks for sharing Harv!!! Love those wheels on the car and that sticker.

ssj71 06-12-2016 11:37 AM

Those, of course, are the American Racing 200S wheels, not painted gold. And a very unusual decal in the rear 1/4 window. Story has it that George Hurst himself used this car for a short spell back when new.

76WS4 06-19-2016 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ssj71 (Post 5588582)
Those, of course, are the American Racing 200S wheels, not painted gold. And a very unusual decal in the rear 1/4 window. Story has it that George Hurst himself used this car for a short spell back when new.

Are you sure it was this one ? Maybe this new found Revere Silver and black SSJ is the one George Hurst drove around when it was new.

76WS4 06-19-2016 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ssj71 (Post 5582913)
Could be an Auto/Stick car, but that means it would have been a bench-seat car originally. Very hard to tell what's original on that car and what's not.

It's got the sunroof and the correctly placed exterior emblems, but would love to see better pictures...I, for one, can't conclude what exterior color that car would have been.

Looks like Revere Silver and Black

76WS4 06-19-2016 08:20 PM

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Pics saved from the 'net....looks like the interior is even 2 tone factory pewter with black seats ,carpet and a black headliner more than likely installed at Hurst. .

ssj71 06-19-2016 08:39 PM

I'll be taking a closer look at this car once I get back from vacation. My pal in nearby Lakeland bought it and has already retrieved it.

ssj71 06-19-2016 08:42 PM

Buckets are wrong for this car. Can't currently tell what's right or wrong on it as of now.

necdb3 06-19-2016 09:00 PM

Did he run a PHS?

76WS4 06-19-2016 11:03 PM

Will a PHS show what Hurst did to that car ?? If not is there any way to document what Hurst did on these conversions ? A fellow recently sold a black/gold '72 SSJ on Ebay and claimed that Hurst installed Lincoln Mk IV style opera windows in it.

Diego 06-20-2016 03:04 AM

He ordered PHS for both of his cars, so we'll learn about more than this one (although the other one is a "conventional" SSJ).

Ram4king 07-03-2016 07:48 PM

Guys not too much of a pig! He now has it listed for 18,000 on Philadelphia's craigslist.

mrrat1 07-04-2016 11:40 AM

thats a WOW.........

Matt Meaney 07-05-2016 09:25 PM

add says he also has a black and gold one for 12K but he's "keeping one".

at those prices, in that condition, i'll bet he's keeping both. :cool:

76WS4 07-06-2016 01:57 AM

Crazy. It's not like those SSJ's are a '70-'71 Challenger or Cuda project.

76WS4 08-09-2016 12:06 PM

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These are the PHS for both cars in the ad. Interesting the silver car isn't signed off on the invoice by Hurst Research . They must have kept it ? It didn't go back to the dealer for a customer. The black car invoice is signed off .

76WS4 08-09-2016 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Meaney (Post 5598714)
add says he also has a black and gold one for 12K but he's "keeping one".

at those prices, in that condition, i'll bet he's keeping both. :cool:

Make them an offer they can't refuse . ;)

Matt Meaney 08-09-2016 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 76WS4 (Post 5612951)
Make them an offer they can't refuse . ;)

I'm so insulted at their high-ball asking price, I'm not even going to make them a reasonable offer. :confused2 ;) :D

my phs wasn't signed off either. story I got, was the owner picked it up directly from hurst.

76WS4 08-10-2016 12:31 AM

Who knows. I heard that a collector/dealer in Florida found and bought the "I Dream of Jeannie" Roger Healey custom Firebird convertible with the Trans Am parts on it , paid about the same as that SSJ and then flipped it on Ebay for 90k. What would you pay for a '69 Judge convertible in the same condition ? I heard another deal where a seller in Florida had a severely rotted '69 Trans Am RAIII 3 spd manual hardtop and was paid 20k for it. So, is this SSJ really out of line ?

Matt Meaney 08-10-2016 10:50 PM

not that it matters, I'll give my opinion anyway. Yes, the asking price is way out of line for what it is. a convertible judge, '69 T/A, or Hollywood specialty car, all are very desirable (to a wide range of people) and have six figure potential restored. the poor SSJ doesn't share that desirability among anywhere near as large a buying group, unfortunately. the few nice SSJ's I've seen for sale on the internet, have had an asking price in the mid to high twenty's. even if they were going well into the thirties, at the original sellers 3k price, you'd still be upside down in that car after the restoration. let alone with a 18K buy in.

all that being said, I don't begrudge anybody for asking whatever they want for their car. after all, it is their car and a free market. If it doesn't make sense to me, I'll just move on. knowing what little I do know, I just don't see a path being beaten down to his door by people wanting to buy them. good for him, if I'm wrong.

mrrat1 08-11-2016 05:10 PM

I paid 1/2 that for a complete, running & driving SSJ with shipping from NV. Only rust was under the top.

He's about 12-15K over realistic value.

With what I know now about restoring these cars I wouldn't have paid what he did in the first place.

76WS4 08-11-2016 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Meaney (Post 5613678)
not that it matters, I'll give my opinion anyway. Yes, the asking price is way out of line for what it is. a convertible judge, '69 T/A, or Hollywood specialty car, all are very desirable (to a wide range of people) and have six figure potential restored. the poor SSJ doesn't share that desirability among anywhere near as large a buying group, unfortunately. the few nice SSJ's I've seen for sale on the internet, have had an asking price in the mid to high twenty's. even if they were going well into the thirties, at the original sellers 3k price, you'd still be upside down in that car after the restoration. let alone with a 18K buy in.

all that being said, I don't begrudge anybody for asking whatever they want for their car. after all, it is their car and a free market. If it doesn't make sense to me, I'll just move on. knowing what little I do know, I just don't see a path being beaten down to his door by people wanting to buy them. good for him, if I'm wrong.

Your opinion matters ! LOL You mentioned the original ad this car was selling for 3k but when I first saw this thread and later checked out the CL ad the seller wanted 10k and then the ad disappeared a couple of days later. So how much was it ?

Matt Meaney 08-12-2016 10:43 PM

I didn't see the 10k add and have no idea what it sold for. the latest add for 18K is still up on craigs list. just updated after a month.

76WS4 09-06-2016 10:26 AM

It appears that someone is buying this SSJ.

Matt Meaney 09-28-2016 10:21 PM

do you know if the sale was completed and the final price? it would be great to see it resurrected.

mrrat1 11-02-2016 03:08 PM

I think its back up for sale........at the high price who would really buy it?


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