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1969 Grand Prix Model J
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Unrestored with 54,000 original miles. Original Cameo Ivory paint and black vinyl top. Interior is all original and in very good condition with the exception of a warped package tray and small hole in the headliner. Strong running, numbers matching 400 and auto transmission. 3.23 non-posi rear. Fairly loaded for a base Model J with 16 factory options including power windows, power vacuum locks, power driver's seat, reclining passenger seat, AM/FM stereo radio, original Space Saver Spare, power steering, cordova top, Rally II wheels with original caps, rings, black center lugs, tinted glass, AC, door edge guards. All the power options work but the AC will need to be updated. I am technically the third owner but the family I bought it from in 2009 had owned it since 1970. It has always been garaged but has rust through in rear corner of both fenders, bottom of drivers door, and rear quarters behind wheel wells. There may also be some rust developing at the bottom of the rear window under the top. I rebuilt the brakes, had the original radiator redone with a new core, replaced the exhaust manifolds with reconditioned correct originals, new fuel pump, carburetor rebuilt by Tom Wilhite with a Cliff Ruggles kit, new battery, rebuilt wiper motor and new whitewall radials. I have the original Protect-O-Plate, PHS, and ownership history. I also have a service book showing that the oil was replaced every 1500 miles! This car is a real time capsule and I regret having to sell it, but I need to focus on finishing the restoration of my 69 GTO. It is a solid and reliable driver and a great 20-footer. I would like to see it go to a good home. I am happy to email additional pictures and answer any questions. My asking price is $9500 or best realistic offer.
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I should have mentioned that the floor and trunk pans are rust free, the body is straight with no evidence that it has ever been in an accident, and the trim and glass are excellent.
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Flickr link with high rez pics: https://flickr.com/photos/[email protected]
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Some more info...It has the born with XH code 400 with 62 heads. All the recent mechanical work was done by John at Midwest Mechanical Specialties. He was recommended by members of this forum and did excellent work IMHO. It had the original transmission filter still on it when fluid was changed. I've got all the original parts that were not able to be reused. The car has spent it's whole life in the KC area and the 2 previous owners are available to contact. Owner 1 had the car 1969-70 and Owner 2 (family) had the car 1970-2009.
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Run on pump gas?
Does it ping in the summer on pump gas? With those #62 heads the compression would be pretty high (unless it has dished pistons). I've had bad experiences with 62 heads and pump gas on these 400s.
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vacuum door locks? not electric?
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I've never noticed any pinging with this GP but remember it on my GTO with the same heads back in the early 90's. I always run at least 91 octane in the GP and don't drive it everyday. I believe the true compression with the 62 heads is 9.5-10:1 or less than the advertised 10.5:1. I think the 62 heads are around 75cc or at least that's what I've read on this site. I might notice pinging if I drove it more on hot days. I believe my GTO pinged back in the day because I couldn't buy at least 91 octane in our small town.
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Yes, they were vacuum in 69 and then electric in 70 I believe.
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I usually throw in a bottle of octane booster but I don't think that makes much of a difference. I've been using the highest zinc content oil that I can find.
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Also open to trade on parts for my 69 GTO restoration.
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Yes, ;68 was the lst year for vacuum door locks. they went to electric in '70 although it is not unheard of to have a late production unit car (June/July '69) be quipped with electric locks if they were out of the vacuum unit parts. They were required to keep a percentage of parts for replacement so the inventory might have been exhausted on the assembly line for late model units that were ordered with the option.
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I'm going to drop my price slightly to $9000 OBO. I know there are cheaper cars out there, but this one's a keeper. It breaks my heart to have to sell it, but I can't justify the storage fees in the city and I need to get the 69 GTO finished. If it doesn't sell this week, I may look at storing it in my hometown 5 hours away. Please take a look at my Flickr page and Craigslist ad for better pictures. It is a bit of a challenge to upload them here.
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Another image I shot last night.
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Price reduced to $8000 and that is pretty much my bottom line guys, otherwise I might as well hang on to it!
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/5640885470.html |
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$7500?
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I did a title search on this car and just got the records back from the State of Kansas (yep Kansas still lets you do this!). Nothing really I didn't already know. The guy that bought it new (his name is on the Protect-o-plate) owned it for about a year and is still a barber in Leavenworth. He then sold it in 1970 to a older man who drove it in well into his 80's and then passed it down to his daughter and son-in law who I bought it from. It was in the same family for 39 years until I bought it in 2009.
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Wish I had the funds. It would be mine.
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Did I mention it still has the T-3 headlights and all of the chrome and stainless trim are near perfect!
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Bump, please feel free to make me an offer!
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I am now listing the GP at $7000. I spoke to the original owner recently and he confirmed that he owned it it 3/69-4/70. It was purchased new at Barter Pontiac Buick GMC in Olathe, KS (still a Buick GMC dealer). He thought it was a pretty car, but it was a gas guzzler and that he needed something bigger for the family. He also said the timing chain broke at 5000 miles and that it was so new that he had to wait several weeks for the dealer to get the part from Pontiac. I've got the full documented history from day 1 on this car and it has always been babied. It has never left the Kansas City area and has always been tagged and registered. Only about 2000 miles have been put on the car since 1986. I've got every service record from 19k miles forward and the oil has been changed every 1500 miles. That probably explains why it still runs so well!
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My original craigslist ad was deleted, so I've reposted it.
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/5679578139.html |
The GP is still available though it now has 55k miles and a new fan clutch and starter. I'm also getting ready to get the gas gauge fixed with a new sender and possibly new tank. I took it on a little road trip this summer. Drove 700 miles at 70-80 mph in 90-100 heat and had absolutely no problems. Also drove it to work round trip 30 miles on Fridays this summer. Car is super reliable and runs great! Still asking $7500.
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Bump. $7500 or best offer.
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Now asking $7000 OBO
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New listing. $6500
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/5899067191.html |
$6000 or partial trade for parts for 69 GTO restoration.
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Over the years (10+ years) seen so many people being on site wanting to buy a nice 69-70 GP. Saying wishing could find a nice car for a great price....well Here is a great unmolested original car (Only original one time) and no buyers. Offering up a great car here for that kind of money. Dave |
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It really has to been in person and driven to be appreciated. It does have some rust, but it's been well maintained and has never been modified in any way. Low miles and fully documented. Perfect interior, chrome, and glass.
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As I might have mentioned, if I end up keeping this car, I plan to just fix the rust, replace the top, and preserve as much as the original paint as possible. It really is a time capsule.
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I have had a lot of request for photos here recently. Anyone know of a good solution other than Flickr to post a bunch of pics? I'm working on under the car shots.
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Imgur?
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Sold!
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Glad to hear it. Looked like a great car.
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