A 535 Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
 

Proud to say my Stockish looking 535 "421 63 SD Lemans" tribute is coming along.

Checkout the progress on Rodney Butler's facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/rodney.butl...94858367219214


Hope to marry the new powerplant into the LeMans in the next couple weeks!

Big Thanks to:

Rodney Butler for the great work and Patience with the old induction stuff
Tom Schlauch - Bath Tub Intake/Carbs
John Reeder - Carb Tuning Support
rskram (Hagen) - Great short block Assembly deal
Mark (Mad Dog Headers) for taking a 63 Dport Header Design and making a much improved drop in Round Port Header for a 63 Tempest
Gary Tallent (Blue Ghoast) - For the Inspiration & the great body work to the 63

See Pics Below & (early Dyno pull) .. hope there is some more left in it! ;-)

Todd

very nice congrats!

Very nice!

Cool ride!

Some really nice work there, I like the headers.

Tom Vaught

FREAKING COOL!!!!

Very cool!

It never gets old looking at a 63!

Best of luck with it.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

Neat... looks like a factory piece at first glance... Going to fun hookin that to the pavement!

Cool!

love it, very clean

Beautiful car!

Jim

Looks like I'm going to have to make room at the shop real soon
so we can get that motor married to the 63 huh Todd.
Oh Yeah, I'll get some pics of mine up here when I get the
two fours on it.
See Ya at the Hot Rod Party tomorrow.

GT.

That is a major TQ number.Glad you got the carbs sorted out.Tom

Lookin' fantastic, Todd! I've been waiting for the news- and it's all good. Beautiful and inspirational work. Thanks for the update.

Tony

Always liked those bathtub intakes!

As noted, torque is ridiculous.

Great motor and car combo ! Will be a ton of fun;

... now that is pretty cool ... i know some places in Fl we could make some money with that car ;) ... hee hee hee :D

Thanks for the feedback..... should be fun learning to drive this on the street.

Maybe look for a Hellcat or a Z06 to play with!

Butler Instagram page had this pic:

It looks like the unsuspecting Hell Cat is going to have a rude awakening!

Very Cool,

Bathtub may not be the most efficient by today's standards but it's the coolest.😊
Nice numbers!!!!

Is this a race or street car, or both. I always though duel carbs and/or a tunnel ram type intake raised the HP/TQ numbers but here it is nothing but power down low. May I ask the compression and cam you used to make this happen. Going to be fun, that's for sure. Very nice.

The car is setup for street duty... not really capable of handling the full torque.. yet!

Figured I would start with a stout long block to start upon for the street .. once my kids are out of the house ... more track duty.

The current drive line setup is: a TCI stage II 700R4 with 3500 stall, 8.5" 3.42 ratio rear with upgraded internals and coil over Ladder bar setup. Hope that my 275 Drag radials will be my "Fuse" .. till I can acquire serious track worthy driveline components.

Till then it is a cruiser / Weekend street stalker. (no cage)

Hope to get the hyd roller cam details from Butler (if it is not guarded info) when I recieve the engine.

For converter selection ... Butler shared some cam specs (to my memory) 240/250 duration w/ 114 LSA ... no other details..... the lift was small enough that Butler did think I needed a stud griddle with my 1.65 rockers.

I believe that the engine is 10.9 compression ratio but it may be a low as 10.5


Todd

Was the intake one of those cast in the run for late model heads?

Typo I meant Butler said the cam lift was small enough that I didn't need a stud girdle.

The intake is a first gen repop that had old style cross over .... Belonged to late Dave Johnson (White Warrior) and had a cross over from a alum 66 tripower type of intake welded nicely on .... Most would never know by looking.

I looked for the past 5 years for a Bath tub.... If you find one buy it .... They rarely come up for sale!

Todd


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Thanks for the info. Seems like one heck of a mild yet very powerful street motor. I assume the intake was to complete the "look". It does do that. Did you try any other intakes or carbs or was this the way it was going to be no matter what. Sounds like the perfect street set up. Let us know if you do a chassis dyno or a trip down the track. Hope to see you in Norwalk.

Todd -Bart had one a few years ago I thought about-my pocket book was happy someone else got it first:)

Saw and talked to Dave a lot at the original NMCA races early 90s when he ran the White Warrior in NSS, I was running Top Stock.

First bathtub I ever saw was in college and one of the biology grad students I had as a freshman was into early GTOs and had one. I was still a Chevy 409 guy back then.

Holy cow! Cool car! :thumbup:

As far as peak HP/TQ, it all depends on the manifold and combination. The Warrior manifold wouldn't pull much over 6300 RPM on my 400ci engine. The bathtub intake we have makes good power up to 7300 RPM in our 482ci engine. Not a bad intake for 1963 technology!

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

The cam IMOis small for the CI.I built the intake a few years back.Skip,it was the one on my KRE headed 455 that made just under 600 HP on Joe Sherman's dyno.I think this engine could have used 10 more duration on both to wake it up.The TQ number is bad ass.Going to take something to hook it up.Tom

Poor little Hellkitty...

awesome!! bitchin' car too

Very cool!, any updates ?

Dude, nice set up, that thing is going to be hard to hook up. If you are not used to driving a higher HP car be careful as you will need to learn to respect the new found power.

Steve

Love it! Car, motor, whole package - congrats!

That's awesome

really love the color!! best of luck with it!!

I took Todd for a ride in my 62 Tempest to kind of give him a feel for
what he can expect from his own car and he's going to have A lot
more torque then my little 440 ci.

GT.

Time for an update!

After nearly a year of sorting out major bugs after the 535 install .... glad to say I am fnally getting to drive this thing!

Mainly everything required mucho fabrication changes to safely accomodate the added power/torgue: Revised rear suspension to better adjustable shocks (QA1), Ditched the track locator for a custom panhard bar setup, new rear internals, c clip elim, 1/2" fuel system tank to pump, SS fuel line to carbs, upgraded all brakes & lines, master, booster, elec vacuum pump now required, 1.9 HP mini starter, revised the Maddog Headers collectors to band flange, new 3" 316 SS full exhaust with 3.5" QTP cutouts, New Steering box, pump, New Trans cooler & lines, solid Motor Mounts, Customized Pro Ractchet shifter to fit into stock 63 console, New Hood with SD Scoop & hole to clear Bath tub setup!

Litterally done the night before Norwalk ... had to clean and detail the car in the hotel parking lot for the Friday show!

Norwalk was a blast hanging with the fellow Little Indians ... and best of all ... my dream car (the one that inspried this sickness in me seeing it in '88 with Arnie driving it at Cordova) was at Norwalk ... the "Mule" Prototype 63 Super Duty Tempest (Bill Blair's old car) .... THANKS! Ken Freeman for bringing this treasure for me/everyone to drool over!

Ken was cool enough to park next to me for a photo op!


I even won 1st place in the Street Class catagory at the Norwalk judged show!

Now I need seat time to learn to control the wolf on the street.... My fab guy Scott said after a test drive .... in a very Non-PC way "this car is Retard fast and powerful" ... not meant to offend anyone here!

Thanks to Scott Overcracker & Gary Tallent (Blue Ghoast) for the help/good work!

Talked with you at Norwalk. Impressive work, Nice. Thanks. Now my 63 is just sitting,waiting.

Very cool car. Sorry I missed it at the show.

This is super cool!!

Very neat... Lots of hard work and it shows.

Hope you get some track time with it too... Should scoot along quite well.

Just curious, any video of this car ? Thanks

Any videos or updates on this awesome car ?