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Jerry H. 09-27-2016 03:15 PM

65 GTO 'One of None'
 
Regretfully the time has come for me to part with my 65 GTO. PHS documented Tri Power with Automatic on the column (upgraded to TH 350). Original YR 389 Engine w/ 77 heads. 3.55 Safety Trac, Rally Gauges, Wood Wheel. NO PS or PB. Sold new by Trotter Pontiac in Chattanooga, TN. Frame off restored about 10 years ago that has been freshened twice since. The build was documented on two threads here:
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=551411

And:

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=731401

The car now is running the dual carb setup with a 'one of one' ram air pan to duplicate the setup that was described in the article in Paul Zazzarine's book. It's built to be as you 'could' have ordered a car if Pontiac had went through with their original intended dual quad ram air option for 65.

I can hardly get in and our of the car now due to my health problems with my legs and feet. It has scored Silver Certificates in Concours judging twice at the GTOAA Nats and was chosen the 'Favorite 65 GTO' at the 2015 GTOAA Nats. I have no desire to continue to haul it around and show it as I have to have help to do that.

Pricing: I don't know of any comparable cars that have sold, BUT the asking prices for comparable cars start in the 50's and go up; sometimes way up. The cars that I see priced less always have problems; usually they don't have the original engine. This one does. Some have questionable restorations and other problems. I'm asking $45,000 and that includes the correct 65 tri power set up, plus all the 'day two' accessories from the first build. (cheater slicks and steelies, Radirs and M/T front tires, M/T valve covers, front drag shocks, and other bits and accessories).

If you have any interest, shoot me a pm and let's talk!

Please view my photobucket account for over 150 pics of this car:

http://s617.photobucket.com/user/two...?sort=3&page=1

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/t...O/IMG_0194.jpg
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/t...O/IMG_0155.jpg

Ram4king 09-27-2016 07:43 PM

Sorry to hear you have to part with it. It's a beautiful machine!

sdbob 09-28-2016 09:33 AM

Sorry Jerry. That is a very nice GTO.Wish I had the $.

straycat 09-28-2016 08:29 PM

Sorry to hear of your misfortune. I parked next to you years ago at Norwalk when the car was in day 2 configuration and was overwhelmed by it then. Best wishes.

Jerry H. 09-28-2016 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by straycat (Post 5636387)
Sorry to hear of your misfortune. I parked next to you years ago at Norwalk when the car was in day 2 configuration and was overwhelmed by it then. Best wishes.

Love that beautiful Catalina!

The Boss 09-29-2016 06:49 AM

Damn Jerry - beautiful car!

rexs73gto 09-29-2016 04:40 PM

Very nice car. Looks great. I like the 65 as my # 2 pick of cars wanted. Had most all but never had a 65. I almost bought one a long time ago but lost it after I helped the guy get it out of the yard it was in. He sold it out from under me to someone who offered him $ 25.00 more for it but never asked me to match the price. I haven't talked to him since.

mrrat1 10-01-2016 12:51 PM

Stinks you have to part with the GTO........GLWS and hope you can find pleasure with something less demanding on yourself.

Jerry H. 10-24-2016 09:11 PM

Bump. If there is anyone who has any interest please let me know within the next couple of days. Looks like I'll take it to the Mecum auction in Kissimmee and their deadline is next week to get in their brochure.

lazlo 10-24-2016 09:43 PM

PM sent

Jerry H. 10-24-2016 10:02 PM

Pm is not showing up???

lazlo 10-24-2016 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry H. (Post 5647260)
Pm is not showing up???

email sent... my email is lazlo at ncwcom.com

nmoreilly 10-30-2016 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry H. (Post 5635700)
Regretfully the time has come for me to part with my 65 GTO. PHS documented Tri Power with Automatic on the column (upgraded to TH 350). Original YR 389 Engine w/ 77 heads. 3.55 Safety Trac, Rally Gauges, Wood Wheel. NO PS or PB. Sold new by Trotter Pontiac in Chattanooga, TN. Frame off restored about 10 years ago that has been freshened twice since. The build was documented on two threads here:
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=551411

And:

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=731401

The car now is running the dual carb setup with a 'one of one' ram air pan to duplicate the setup that was described in the article in Paul Zazzarine's book. It's built to be as you 'could' have ordered a car if Pontiac had went through with their original intended dual quad ram air option for 65.

I can hardly get in and our of the car now due to my health problems with my legs and feet. It has scored Silver Certificates in Concours judging twice at the GTOAA Nats and was chosen the 'Favorite 65 GTO' at the 2015 GTOAA Nats. I have no desire to continue to haul it around and show it as I have to have help to do that.

Pricing: I don't know of any comparable cars that have sold, BUT the asking prices for comparable cars start in the 50's and go up; sometimes way up. The cars that I see priced less always have problems; usually they don't have the original engine. This one does. Some have questionable restorations and other problems. I'm asking $45,000 and that includes the correct 65 tri power set up, plus all the 'day two' accessories from the first build. (cheater slicks and steelies, Radirs and M/T front tires, M/T valve covers, front drag shocks, and other bits and accessories).

If you have any interest, shoot me a pm and let's talk!

Please view my photobucket account for over 150 pics of this car:

http://s617.photobucket.com/user/two...?sort=3&page=1

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/t...O/IMG_0194.jpg
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/t...O/IMG_0155.jpg

That's an exceptional car, glws

Jerry H. 11-14-2016 10:42 PM

Now consigned to the Mecum Kissimmee Auction in January. It will have a Prime Sale spot # 108.1 on Thursday night.

The Boss 11-15-2016 08:08 AM

Good luck Jerry, think I'm going to do a little fluffing and hope for a better market in the spring. Prospects of an improved economy are looking up!

Greg Reid 11-16-2016 01:18 PM

Good luck Jerry. You know if I had the money that car would be headed to South Fulton County right now.

Jerry H. 11-16-2016 11:37 PM

Thanks Greg. As much as I love these old cars, especially Pontiacs, it looks like this will be my last. I can't work on them anymore, I can hardly get in and out of them anymore, and I just don't have the energy anymore. I still love the people, and the cars, and it's gonna be hard to be without one.

hdpontiac 11-22-2016 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry H. (Post 5657159)
Thanks Greg. As much as I love these old cars, especially Pontiacs, it looks like this will be my last. I can't work on them anymore, I can hardly get in and out of them anymore, and I just don't have the energy anymore. I still love the people, and the cars, and it's gonna be hard to be without one.

wondering if the car is still for sale or did you take it to the auction

Jerry H. 11-22-2016 11:19 PM

The car will be sold at the Mecum sale in Kissimmee, FL on Thursday, Jan 12.

J GLASGO 11-23-2016 10:08 AM

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Glws. Jerry. I think you should do well. You have a great car, that will stand out at the auction. Alot of cars look good on TV, but not so good in person.Alot of them tossed together strictly for these venues. See you there, as we are running our Black whirlwind tribute also.

nmoreilly 11-23-2016 06:44 PM

GLWS, I suspect their will be significant interest in that car !

Jerry H. 11-24-2016 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J GLASGO (Post 5659981)
Glws. Jerry. I think you should do well. You have a great car, that will stand out at the auction. Alot of cars look good on TV, but not so good in person.Alot of them tossed together strictly for these venues. See you there, as we are running our Black whirlwind tribute also.

Can't wait to see that one!

Ron Landis 12-24-2016 08:49 PM

Agreed!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by J GLASGO (Post 5659981)
Glws. Jerry. I think you should do well. You have a great car, that will stand out at the auction. Alot of cars look good on TV, but not so good in person.Alot of them tossed together strictly for these venues. See you there, as we are running our Black whirlwind tribute also.

This one will be standing tall...especially underneath those lights!

Jerry H. 12-24-2016 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Landis (Post 5673127)
This one will be standing tall...especially underneath those lights!

The Glasgo's Catalina is #T60.1. Probably run early Thursday afternoon. I'll be watching when it goes through!

https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0117-27...a-convertible/

Ron Landis 12-26-2016 06:38 PM

Wow...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry H. (Post 5673146)
The Glasgo's Catalina is #T60.1. Probably run early Thursday afternoon. I'll be watching when it goes through!

https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0117-27...a-convertible/

not sure if seeing these cars in person is the smartest move for me at this point. May look at refinancing my house before making the trip to Florida!

J GLASGO 12-27-2016 07:34 AM

Hi Jerry. When you taking your GTO down? I found out last week our 62 will be outside in a tent! Needless to say I was disappointed. Can't keep black clean while it sits inside, much less a tent! See you there!

Jerry H. 12-27-2016 11:28 AM

We're planning on checking in on Monday afternoon. I figured we would be under a tent, I'm just hoping the weather is decent where the bidders will mingle out under the tents and not stay inside.

Jerry H. 01-08-2017 11:56 PM

Loaded up and pulling out around 6 am. Hopefully arriving around 3 pm or so. Lot # 161 will sell on Thursday afternoon probably between 4 and 6.

Greg Reid 01-09-2017 01:59 AM

Good luck with the sale Jerry.

The Boss 01-09-2017 07:51 AM

Best of luck Jerry!

Jerry H. 01-11-2017 12:48 AM

Thanks guys. A few Pontiacs here. A few very nice but mostly very average or driver quality cars that the owners THINK are very nice.

pontiacs-r-us 01-12-2017 02:48 PM

Good Luck Jerry.We'll be looking for it.Im sure they will love your car.Hope it nets you more than what your looking for...


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goatless 01-12-2017 04:38 PM

Coming up on TV (NBCSN) soon!

pontiacs-r-us 01-12-2017 05:22 PM

They have to sell some time...every time a Pontiac comes on...Went to commercial just as Jerry's 65 came up [emoji35]


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Greg Reid 01-13-2017 07:41 AM

But heaven forbid they skip a Chevelle, Camaro, Vette or Mustang.

dhcarguy 01-13-2017 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pontiacs-r-us (Post 5682093)
They have to sell some time...every time a Pontiac comes on...Went to commercial just as Jerry's 65 came up [emoji35]


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YES ,IT always happens, and I wonder if it is intentional, Pisses me off .
Did his car sell for 38K??:mad:

OVERULD 01-13-2017 03:55 PM

Website Results show $39K - should have been more - awesome car. I was hoping Jerry would get much more for it.

BJ

dci 01-13-2017 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OVERULD (Post 5682653)
Website Results show $39K - should have been more - awesome car. I was hoping Jerry would get much more for it.

BJ

That really sucks !!! He not only didn't get what he wanted, but had to pay $4000.00 plus in sellers fee's and the fee to be in the auction. Barret Jackson is hurting our hobby with these inflated numbers because when someone see's that $39,000 that's all they see. In reality the seller only netted around $34,000. That's a far cry from his asking price of $45,000. I'm sure if he knew or thought about the end result he would have much rather sold the car here to fellow Pontiac enthusiast for that price. On the other side of the coin though. He did get to experience the lights and camera's on the run way.

eaglesan13 01-13-2017 08:05 PM

Somebody got a really nice car at a great price.

62cat 01-13-2017 08:51 PM

I absolutely love Jerry's car. What might have kept the bids down was the column shift automatic.

tom s 01-13-2017 11:02 PM

57K plus for a 74 GTO!455 but still crazy money IMO.Tom

pontiacs4ever1971 01-13-2017 11:27 PM

That was a hell of a buy for that car.

tom s 01-14-2017 12:05 AM

Lot of money for a Pontiac nova IMO.Tom

62cat 01-14-2017 04:41 PM

Crazy money is right. Just depends on whose in the room.

Jerry H. 01-15-2017 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dci (Post 5682680)
That really sucks !!! He not only didn't get what he wanted, but had to pay $4000.00 plus in sellers fee's and the fee to be in the auction. Barret Jackson is hurting our hobby with these inflated numbers because when someone see's that $39,000 that's all they see. In reality the seller only netted around $34,000. That's a far cry from his asking price of $45,000. I'm sure if he knew or thought about the end result he would have much rather sold the car here to fellow Pontiac enthusiast for that price. On the other side of the coin though. He did get to experience the lights and camera's on the run way.

Actually I was able to negotiate a lower % or I was willing to bring it home. Mecum will work with you like that. Did I get what I wanted? No, I didn't but I got what the market seemed willing to bear at the time.

"I absolutely love Jerry's car. What might have kept the bids down was the column shift automatic."

Yes, I believe the automatic hurt the sale of the car. Also I believe I should have reinstalled the factory tripower and pulled the dual carbs and ram air pan and just kept them.

Honestly there were a couple of 67's there that were probably nicer than mine. The rest of the early cars were not. Most were drivers at best. `And a large % of all the cars had issues. The restorations may have been very nice, but they had issues with being correct. Buyers had better do their homework!

Jerry H. 01-15-2017 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom s (Post 5682891)
57K plus for a 74 GTO!455 but still crazy money IMO.Tom

I spent a lot of time looking over that car and talking with the owner. Claiming to be a 7700 original mile car, and it may have very well been. The interior still had that original 70's smell, something you can't reproduce. It wasn't a 455SD. It was supposedly a 74 455HO block and heads. IIRC the engine code was YY which, at quick check, showed up as a 74 455 engine. I couldn't find any casting code on the heads. The owner told me he had used two different year model Ram Air exhaust manifolds to get them to fit. The resto was first class all the way. Yes it was probably world record money, but it was a world record car. I dropped out at 40k.

tom s 01-15-2017 12:31 AM

Jerry,that number is more like I would have expected.57 was the hammer price as I remember so buyer was in the car for 60 plus,that's a tall number.I know you would not be able to do one for that but for that money you could get what I would consider a better ROI with a 69-70 car.Tom

Jerry H. 01-15-2017 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom s (Post 5683386)
Jerry,that number is more like I would have expected.57 was the hammer price as I remember so buyer was in the car for 60 plus,that's a tall number.I know you would not be able to do one for that but for that money you could get what I would consider a better ROI with a 69-70 car.Tom

Seller claimed he had over 100k in the restoration of the car. He claimed he used only NOS parts, no repops.

judgeman6970 01-15-2017 11:40 AM

Yeah, I love this '65 GTO, but I would only want it with a 4-spd(or 5-spd?) stick shift. Someone got a beauty! ;)


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