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70 SJ Frame Off Project
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Last August I saw a add on CL for a 1970 Grand Prix SJ that had been sitting since 2005. The left rear quarter had been backed into by a delivery truck, the repair was started and then the owner lost interest. When I checked it out I found the car to be very solid, all matching numbers, and a local Florida car all it's life. It had PHS documentation and came with rust free parts from Arizona in order to complete the repairs. I have restored many Pontiac's over the years and this one is well deserving of a complete frame off........this will be the first time in my 2 car garage though.
The car had been painted black at some point but I will return it to Atoll blue with black vinyl and black interior I'm well into it now, so I hope you enjoy the pic's of my progress. http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1495246680 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1495246848 |
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I changed the oil, supplied some fresh fuel via a gravity feed to the carb and it fired right up and settled into a nice idle with no smoke. Drove it around the neighborhood, transmission shifted fine. At that point I started pulling it apart to start on the body.
Rear quarter damage: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1495288214 Found a build sheet glued to the back of the pass door panel http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1495288214 Getting the quarter removed http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1495288628 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1495288628 |
this is great. I love a good build thread and will be following it. keep posting, thanks.
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Thanks for posting pictures of your project.Talk about clean .WOW!!! My life's to busy now to even begin to start on my 69 model J or 72 model J projects but seeing people post their progress keeps the fire burning. LOVE those 69-72 GP's !!!!!
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Wow 455 HO & lots of options!!! I'm following this also!!
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"XXX Customer Order" = Special order car... nice.
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Rear filler panel finshed and rear quarters in epoxy primer
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1495501907 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1495501907 Removed the front clip and started on the front fenders. Check out the Atoll blue on the side of the cowl, first time it's seen daylight in 47 years, it will not be painted over. Gotta love the Tractor Supply gas tank feeding the carb, allows me to keep it a runner and move it under it's own power. http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1495501907 Rear quarters in finish body work and a coat of blocking primer. The under hood light is still on the inner fender, it rolls out and works perfectly. http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1495501907 |
Very cool!!!
Keep up the good work!!! |
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Fenders were nice and clean so it didn't take long to get them done and move on to the doors
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1495762696 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1495762696 I think that the fenders are as tall as I am Doors are in great shape also http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1495762696 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1495762696 Almost all primed http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1495762696 |
That quarter you put on was exceptionally nice and straight, good find! I notice a side release button on the bucket seat, recliners or just a temporary mobility seat?
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Looking good! You are really getting after it! Have a loaded 390 horse '69 J, I'd love to get to work on. Of all the odd '69 & 70 GP's I've owned, or cut up, one I would have loved to have been able to find just a few years earlier was a triple black 70 Model J with the XF 455 & 3.07 posi 12 bolt. Though a J, it was optioned up with pwr bucket, Dix belts, & rally gauges. The clincher, car originally had black leather buckets, at the time I thought it would have cost a small fortune to recreate the covers. Having dealt with several upholsterers on other restoration projects, it honestly wouldn't have been that far out in price range.
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With the doors finished, it was time for the hood and trunk lid. While both were very solid, trunk lids always require a lot of finish work to get them straight. Note the blue stains on the floor around the perimeter of the hood, there were many layers of paint on this car, the original blue, two blue re-paints and a black repaint.
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1495846443 I then cut in the underside of the trunk and trunk jamb http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1495846443 I work for a large auto group here in south Florida and they have a full service body shop. They were kind enough to let me use a spray booth to paint it on a slow Saturday. http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1495847288 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1495847888 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1495847888 That sure is one long hood ! |
Wow, you're really movin' on this! Looks great.
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wholly cow you are quick getting to the gun.........and it looks great!!
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Impressive work going on there. Those are such cool cars. Thanks for posting your work.
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Motor and trans out and disassembled. The motor was standard bore and had not been apart other than to do a timing set. Had original head gaskets with notches and date code original oil pump. With the way it ran I was surprised to find there were three broken top rings, number five piston had a broken ring land and number six piston skirt was cracked. Years of too much timing and not enough octane !
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1496193019 4 bolt Main XF block, I guess they had a hard time stamping the VIN that day http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1496193019 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1496193019 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1496193019 Numbers matching PR transmission http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1496193019 Thank you all but I really don't work that fast. I started on the car the first week of September and was in the spray booth the third weekend in February. I started posting a little bit at a time and will continue to do so, until I get to where I'm at now. |
still 10x's faster than me........
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I love Atoll blue, have you considered leaving the top off by chance?
Keep it coming and nice find! |
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Removed front and rear suspension from the frame, then separated the frame from the body.
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1496619626 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1496619626 While cleaning up the frame I found the VIN, stamped twice, and frame info. http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1496619626 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1496619626 The frame restored to black. http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1496619626 |
Coming along.......whats your expected done date?
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Pressure washed the underside, plenty of factory blue over spray with faded primer and some light surface rust.
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1496792984 Prepping the floor and firewall. Found the paint/roof trim code on firewall. http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1496792984 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1496792984 Underside finished in red epoxy primer. http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1496792984 Done, complete with blue over spray, undercoating and fresh black firewall. http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1496792984 |
very nice........!!
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Everything installed on the frame and detailed
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1496974616 Getting the frame in position and reattached http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1496974616 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1496974616 Cleaned and rebuilt the rear end. That positrac fluid tag on the drain plug is the original one, both it and the drain plug were buried under about one inch of crud. http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1496974616 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1496974616 |
Nice work
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GM used also that limited slip red plastic tag on their trucks in that era. My '70 Blazer has the same thing on it's 12 bolt.
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Progressing nicely..........well done!!
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Front and rear suspension assembly
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1497489703 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1497489703 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1497489703 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1497489703 Rolling again http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1497489703 |
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any updates you can share?
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Well, hello again ! I've been busy with a new job, and a hurricane among other things, thankfully we got through it unscathed.
Time for the vinyl top http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1505691210 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1505691210 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1505691210 All done, time to get the motor and trans back together http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1505691210 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1505691210 |
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Great thread and a nicely optioned SJ! Such a fantastic job you're doing, will be following this to completion.
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Some more progress:
Motor and trans installed http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1509227187 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1509227187 Headliner in http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1509227187 Dash assembled and interior going together http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1509227187 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1509227187 |
Looks great! Forgot to mention earlier... nice to see the rear vinyl top seams below the glass done correctly!
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Outstanding work Sir, love it!
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Very nice car! Great job. I will be following this as well. Makes me very excited to start on mine in the near future.
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Wow. Gorgeous car and outstanding work on your part. You are very talented.
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Thanks -Andrew |
Sure turned out nice! GLWS
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Is that #28 Blue?
If it is, I was gonna paint mine a different blue, but that is beautiful! |
Nice work as usual Tom, glad to have you and your expertise back in the neighborhood.
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How did I miss this car being for sale....How much was it listed for?
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I followed the thread not realizing it was just being built to be sold. I honestly didn't think the money was there for our GPs yet to do a complete frame off to have room for profit. I'd like to know what it sold for also
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