70 judge purchase
 

I just purchased this car and thought I would share some pics and a little info..
This was a 1 owner car until 1989 when the original owner gave the car to his son. The son kept the car until this past week when I purchased it from him.
The father purchased the car new from a local dealer near my hometown that is still in business today.( currently a gmc /Buick dealership ). The father and son did a incredible job of saving all the important documents to this car including: original bill of sale from new, p.o.p, , dealer pre delivery checklist and owners Manuel. Somehow they also kept every pa. Registration card from 1970 until this year! The son had it repainted in early 1990,s and added the gold cragers. I have stock rally's also for the car. He also changed the stripe from the olive/ yellow to the one that's on now. I plan to change the stripe back to olive as I think it will look better on the sierra yellow?
It's a all #,s matching ram air 3 / m-21 with xm code rear axle (4:33)
Still had the original spare on jl ralley2 wheel in the trunk. Doesn't appear to be ever mounted on the car.
I'll post some interior pics later when I get a chance.
Brent

Very nice!

That is very Nice!

Congrats and need more pics!

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That is real nice! Congratulations!

Congrats! Nice car.

Great find, I can't wait to see more pictures.

Post the PHS

WOW that is incredible. what a beauty nice purchase

Wow! Very cool car with an unusual color combo and great history. I hope to see it at one of the local shows(SVGTO in Aug?) & you might need to add 70 to your name.

congrats. very nice. I like the color.
so how did you talk him out of it?

Original engine with a 4.33 rear? That's amazing!

Congrats, beautiful car.

Orig bill of sale.. I have a few things I need to address on the car . I'll update post as I go.
Brent

Wow, striking color with the Judge option !!

brent as much as I hate to tell you this, you must dispose of this car immediately. it could be a real danger to your health. if you look at the sheet you will see that it was ordered with HD radiation.

please pm me your address and I will show up in my white clothes to haul it away for you.. :D:D:D

am I a nice guy or what

Great find!! Love it.. Wonder why they installed 71 outside mirrors though.

Yea the mirrors are one of the things I need to change. Previous owner showed me a picture of the car from 1971-72 and these same mirrors were already installed. Must have did that soon after seeing the 71 models?

Lol!! Good eye on seeing that on invoice! I never even noticed that..

Congratulations, looks like our cars were built around the same time and plant.

Very nice! Congrats on the score. Would love to see more pics when you get the chance.

Thanks for sharing! Looking forward to more pictures.

Couple more pics I took today.. need to order front bucket seat covers and arm rest this week . Unfortunately they are telling me 12-14 weeks for this color interior? The rest of the interior is inpretty nice shape. Probably replace the carpet also.
Anyone know where to have original wiper motor rebuilt for this car? The motor works but doesn't stop with the switch. I installed another switch but no difference . Thinking it might be in the wiper motor?
Thanks

Few more

Is the engine block code '914' or '915' (stamped 5)?

Looks nice!

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Must be very low mileage. How can you drive with 4.33?

Beautiful car.

Sent you a pm

Brent, great car and thanks for sharing.
I personally like the strips since it sports a different look. Also due to them being changed by the original owners its understandable if you left them. Either way its a simple fix down the road if required.
Wish you many happy miles. Enjoy!

Very nice! Enjoy.

Great looking car! I would leave the front seat covers and look for a nice used arm rest pad. I don't think you'll be happy with the attempted color match of any reproduction interior parts. You can also search for a nice used passenger seat cover if your driver's side cover is roasted. The passenger seat cover looks great! How is the driver's seat? By the looks of the rest of the interior it cannot be too bad. Those door panels and dash pad are beautiful!
FYI, It looks like the small 'Ram Air' metal decal fell off of your pull cable bracket.

BTW, Gary, the radiation comment was funny! And yes, good eye too!

Yea thats the kinda stuff we did back then

The XM 4.33 posi is what makes this RA III, M21 4 speed GTO Judge a real runner and very special.

Sign me up!

I thought special order axle on RAIII begat a 3:90...special order on RAIV begat a 4:33? How is this verified on documentation?

Cool Judge BTW!

Check the procedure to bench test the wiper motor in the service manual. It's a little confusing and youll need some jumper wires but once I worked through it I was able to isolate my problem to a bad ground and didnt have to replace it.

What a beautiful Judge. I love all the colors. I agree about trying to find clean pieces for,the interior. Also need to get rid of that ugly Wagner master cylinder. They did this back in the 80s for some reason. I had one on a chevelle. Congrats!,

Yea the drivers seat cover is toast.. good idea looking for a used passenger side.
I did have Ames send me a color sample for seats and it actually was really close to the original? (Legendary brand).
I have a decal ordered for the pull knob bracket also

This is how it's listed on phs

Yea I need to bench test the wiper motor. I got a little nervous when i tried running it on car it started to smell hot. That why I thought it might be the motor?

If you have time, this is good reading...


http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...+3%3A90&page=4

For wiper motors, contact Danny Tate at Wiper Works
ph 931 598-9573
[email protected]

He does very good work on restoring wiper motors
He is in Sewanee TN

Steve

Nice looking Judge Brent; congrats on the find and purchase. Enjoy it in good health!

BJ

Danny Tate died last year.

Sorry to hear that...

incredible! wow , 4:33!

awesome!

Swapped out the old school cragers for a more original look of the ralley 2 wheels. I wasn't a fan at all of the gold cragers the previous owner had on the car.

That pic reminds me of the Judge I owned in the 90's. It was Sierra Yellow, but mine had black interior and an automatic. I sold the car to a guy in Iowa in 2003.

Great question.
In 68 the axle ratio is found in box 37 of the BHC (S=4.33).
By 1970 the format changed for the dealer invoice copy and that info doesn't appear to be included with any of the documents provided by PHS. It is listed on the Broadcast Sheet though, so if the OP is lucky enough to discover that in his car then he can check box 29 where "XM" should be listed (or XK if 3.90) The Broadcast sheet also has the options listed with their codes about half way down the sheet. GU9 is 4.33 and GU8 is 3.90. From what I can tell 3.90 and 4.33 are the only two special order axle choices for the Ram Air III engine.

If the engine was a RA IV, then the codes would be academic since the only special order axle ratio choice is 4.33 so the only documentation required to validate would be the 362 AXL-SP-ORD found on the invoice copy.

For the subject car....we know it came with a 3.90 or 4.33. The axle code stamped on the axle tube is XM and the julian date code is 259 (Sept 16th). The invoice date is 11/4/69 (308 julian date) so the axle predates the car by 49 days. That would seem to be in the correct range IMO. (For sake of comparison.....my 4.33 axle, which I believe to be original to the car is 39 days before the invoice date). So, the 4.33 axle in this '70 Judge is not incorrect based on what we know at this time.

Someday, if the OP happens to pull the cover and peek inside, there should be some stamps on the ring gear. 39 9 for the ratio.....GM something and then the year code. Here is a photo of what the stamps look like on my ring gear.

I would be interested in your gold cragars if you sell them. 267-246-6903

Found the build sheet under rear seat springs tonight. Has 4:33 GU9 & XM in box 29

Fantastic find! Thanks for the update.

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AWESOME!

:)

Congrats.

:)