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67TIGER 04-18-2019 10:27 AM

'67 GTO Tail Light Housing Refinishing
 
I'm wanting to clean up and restore my '67 GTO tail light assemblies. My lens' are not to bad, just need to polish them up.

I want to know how to refinish the housings. I see that Ames has the reflective chrome style paint for the inner areas. What is the finish for the outer (Trunk Side) area?

How would you clean up both the inner and outer areas? I read in some real old articles (Muscle Car Review) that you could clean up the outside with scotchbrite pads, looks quite difficult with all the small nooks and crannies on the edges. What would the finish be, some sort of gray or metallic silver?

Looking for any tips and suggestions from anyone that has experience doing these.
I had thought about glass beading, any idea on how to go with this?

Any and all help would be welcome.
Thanks

428goat 04-26-2019 03:38 PM

Had mine powder coated and then sprayed the chrome paint on the inside. Works good for me.

67TIGER 04-26-2019 09:57 PM

What color powder coat did you use?
How did the chrome spray paint work out?

MUSLCAH 04-26-2019 10:31 PM

Chrome spray works well.

SR-71 04-26-2019 11:12 PM

There was a thread about someone using Eastwood carburetor refinishing paint to make the exterior the gold tone like they were originally and using chrome paint inside.

Old Goat 67 04-27-2019 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 67TIGER (Post 6014416)
I'm wanting to clean up and restore my '67 GTO tail light assemblies. My lens' are not to bad, just need to polish them up.

I want to know how to refinish the housings. I see that Ames has the reflective chrome style paint for the inner areas. What is the finish for the outer (Trunk Side) area?

How would you clean up both the inner and outer areas? I read in some real old articles (Muscle Car Review) that you could clean up the outside with scotchbrite pads, looks quite difficult with all the small nooks and crannies on the edges. What would the finish be, some sort of gray or metallic silver?

Looking for any tips and suggestions from anyone that has experience doing these.
I had thought about glass beading, any idea on how to go with this?

Any and all help would be welcome.
Thanks

Tiger,
If you were to glassbead the exterior of the housings, you would have just what the originals were as installed.

Mine are painted gloss white on the inside and combined with SYLVANIA 1157R ZEVO LED they are at least twice as bright as original setup was.

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1556362107

Charles

Chief of the 60's 04-27-2019 12:06 PM

All cast housings originally looked like a carb on the outside. Here is an NOS '67 Firebird housing.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1544556432
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...2&d=1544556442
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...3&d=1544556456
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...4&d=1544556465
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...5&d=1544556479

Old Goat 67 04-27-2019 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief of the 60's (Post 6017579)
All cast housings originally looked like a carb on the outside. Here is an NOS '67 Firebird housing.]

Firebird may have had gold there, BUT 67 GTO DID NOT!

Ask me how I know? Or, look at my info on the right.

Or, Bloomington Gold Survior, 30,00 mile car.

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1556386980

Chief of the 60's 04-27-2019 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Goat 67 (Post 6017609)
Firebird may have had gold there, BUT 67 GTO DID NOT!

Ask me how I know? Or, look at my info on the right.

Or, Bloomington Gold Survior, 30,00 mile car.

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1556386980

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Originally Posted by Old Goat 67 (Post 6017499)
Tiger,
If you were to glassbead the exterior of the housings, you would have just what the originals were as installed.

Mine are painted gloss white on the inside and combined with SYLVANIA 1157R ZEVO LED they are at least twice as bright as original setup was.

Charles

LOL Okay.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/60911632.jpg

242177P 04-27-2019 02:06 PM

Exactly how many GTOs did they build at the Norwood plant in 67?
(Hint: It was a nice even number, rhymes with hero)

Longs 04-27-2019 04:25 PM

The housings in my '67 look like Old Goat 67s. Mine was built June 1967 in Pontiac.

Chief of the 60's 04-27-2019 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Longs (Post 6017658)
The housings in my '67 look like Old Goat 67s. Mine was built June 1967 in Pontiac.

Are you the original owner? I sold a pair of NOS 1967 GTO housings in Carlisle 2 years ago that looked just like the NOS 1967 Firebird housing I posted. Remember, carburetors did not stay gold either with time.

Old Goat 67 04-27-2019 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief of the 60's (Post 6017662)
Are you the original owner? I sold a pair of NOS 1967 GTO housings in Carlisle 2 years ago that looked just like the NOS 1967 Firebird housing I posted. Remember, carburetors did not stay gold either with time.

The more you speak, the more I'm convinced you don't know anything correctly.

67TIGER 04-27-2019 08:40 PM

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Thanks for all the replies, they are all very helpful.

Old Goat 67: Those look great, I was thinking the housings should be a kind of dull aluminum.

I took a some pictures today of mine. I used a flash when taking them. What do you think?

They are not "real bad" but I just wanted to clean them up and try to replicate the finish that was close to the original.

Tail lights are getting a bit dim and difficult to see especially in the bright sun. That's why I wanted to replace the chrome reflective inside the housings, of course things always snowball!

Yes this car needs work, tail panel, both trunk weather strip gutters and usual areas around the rear window all need replacing. I can't help it....I get a real blast driving this car!

carcrazy 04-27-2019 08:53 PM

The NOS ones that I sold about 5 years ago did not have a goldish tint to them.

Chief of the 60's 04-27-2019 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Goat 67 (Post 6017737)
The more you speak, the more I'm convinced you don't know anything correctly.

The more you post, the more I'm convinced you are just another Corvette owner or at least a GTOAA member (or both).

Chief of the 60's 04-27-2019 08:59 PM

:rolleyes:

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...3&d=1556410957
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...2&d=1544556442

Old Goat 67 04-28-2019 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 67TIGER (Post 6017744)
Thanks for all the replies, they are all very helpful.

Old Goat 67: Those look great, I was thinking the housings should be a kind of dull aluminum.

I took a some pictures today of mine. I used a flash when taking them. What do you think?

They are not "real bad" but I just wanted to clean them up and try to replicate the finish that was close to the original.

Tail lights are getting a bit dim and difficult to see especially in the bright sun. That's why I wanted to replace the chrome reflective inside the housings, of course things always snowball!

Yes this car needs work, tail panel, both trunk weather strip gutters and usual areas around the rear window all need replacing. I can't help it....I get a real blast driving this car!

Yes sir, I think just glass beading the outside would work fine for you.

The inside I do have an idea you may want to try.
When I was trying to redo mine, the "chrome" spray available left something to be desired, I tried them and wound up using gloss white which gave more light out back than the chrome stuff.

Since then, Greg Reid on this board used Spaz Stix to do the chrome highlights on the dash.
https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...d.php?t=754763

If I were to take mine out again, which I will sooner or later, I believe I'd try that to make them brighter.

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...3&d=1518972711

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...6&postcount=95

Old Goat 67 04-28-2019 09:11 AM

BTW
Chief of the 60's

Did not read your comments and never will. You are on my PERMANENT IGNORE list.

Chief of the 60's 04-28-2019 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Goat 67 (Post 6017890)
BTW
Chief of the 60's

Did not read your comments and never will. You are on my PERMANENT IGNORE list.

Oh, did I hit the nail on the head? Because you seem a little butthurt. That's good because you were not on the assembly line building them and therefore are not the authority on how they were made. You only go off of what "you" have, read or was told. To say an "NOS" part is "wrong" is as ludicrous as it gets. I would almost bet that I was playing with them longer than you have owned them.

GT182 04-28-2019 10:10 AM

Charles is correct all the way. Mine in my 66 are also white inside, and metal finish with no paint on the housings seen inside the trunk. As was my 1st 66 GTO.

Just a thought. To clean up the outside you could also try the walnut media. It might be less harmful than the glass, and keep the original texture of the metal.

Chief of the 60's, I don't know about what year Firebirds you believe the housings were gold, inside or out, but it wasn't 67, 68, 69, or 79. The only way they could be gold is overspray from some idiot doing repair work on the rear using gold paint. Or they incorrectly "thought" they should be gold. Some people are either not to bright or don't care. Maybe you should read a body service manual on what is painted what, or not, from the factory.

Longs 04-28-2019 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief of the 60's (Post 6017662)
Are you the original owner? I sold a pair of NOS 1967 GTO housings in Carlisle 2 years ago that looked just like the NOS 1967 Firebird housing I posted. Remember, carburetors did not stay gold either with time.

I am not the original owner, but I have owned the car since 1981.

67TIGER 05-01-2019 10:43 PM

Everyone, sorry about taking so long getting back to the thread.

I really appreciate all the pictures and suggestions from everyone, I will probably bead blast (or use walnut shells) the housings then do the chrome for the insides. Looks like another tool to buy! I guess I need a small blasting cabinet anyway.

Old Goat 67: Thanks again for the pictures, your trunk area look fantastic as I'm sure the entire car does. I do have some Spaz Stix, stuff works great. I plan on using it on my instrument cluster panel like Greg did.

I'm hoping to get some help on this trunk area panel replacement while I get the taillight assemblies done.

As someone said in the "Paint Jail" thread, I guess we all will have to learn how to do more and more of the repair/restoration projects ourselves.

67TIGER 05-01-2019 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SR-71 (Post 6017455)
There was a thread about someone using Eastwood carburetor refinishing paint to make the exterior the gold tone like they were originally and using chrome paint inside.

You got my curiosity piqued. I have searched everything I can and still cannot find the thread. Maybe I'm using the wrong search words. Do you remember anything else about it?

I just want to see the whole thread and see how everything was done. Sounds interesting.

Thanks


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