1967 GTO gets smoked by a new stock Nissan Altima
 

Just now on Jay Leno's Garage. It wasn't even close.

I have always said that today's stock cars will out run our old stock ones, But, have you ever heard someone say "Look, a Nissan Altima!"?

No surprise there.

I bet an F16 would outrun a P51 too.

And a 67 GTO will outrun a 1917 Packard.

Let's see how quick that Altima is when it's 52 years old!

And how much it brings at Mecum in 52 years.

:D:D:D:D:D:D

Who cares?

That's right. Parts pushers can't sell parts to Nissan owners because the cars don't break.

A Google search tells me that a 2019 Altima can do a 1/4 mile in 15.7 seconds, while the turbo edition can do 14.6. Don’t rush out to buy these super cars just yet.

In a more modern comparison, I was driving my Yukon back from the desert last night and came up on an Altima going slow in the fast lane. He floored it when I moved to pass, but wasn’t able to put up much of a fight.

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Probably would've had a different ending if Pontiac was a sponsor of the show.

Good info....they probably used a GTO with A/C and open rear end.

Anyone that believes that Nissan vehicles don't break down doesn't know anything about cars or trucks.

There is a reason that there is a website dedicated to Nissan problems:

http://www.nissanproblems.com/

Thanks for providing some more evidence as to why I rarely agree with you.

For some reason you seem to think that calling a former true parts professional a "parts pusher" is a unique personal insult.

I consider the source and wear it as a badge of honor.

Don't forget, 1967 was the only year you could get a 2bbl carbed GTO too...

’68 and ‘69 as well.

Nissans are junk. Their CVT transmissons are garbage.

I stand corrected.

Never made sense to me why they ever built a 2bbl version. I would have respected a OHC 4bbl GTO more than the 2bbl.

I had a 190k on a Versa cvt before it grenaded . I would avoid another though . It was just my work car for a few years so I don’t know how it was treated before me . Carfax didn’t show a prior trans replacement . Too bad the cvt cost so much to replace though ! The car just wasn’t worth it so I had to send it to the yard . Darn shame , It was actually a nice car and surprisingly comfortable - you just don’t get much respect driving one lol I’ve had a few nissans , seems like little electrical gremlins & rusting out are the biggest issues I’ve encountered .

LOL! You're a proven idiot. Like GM's don't break. http://www.chevroletproblems.com/

Please document where I ever said that GM's don't break.

I'm not holding my breath.

As to being a proven idiot...

Aren't you the one that after looking at a photo of a car that had brand new tires put on 60 minutes before the photo was taken - claimed that the car had alignment problems?

Yes, you were.

Two years later, same car, same tires and the tread wear is even side to side on both front tires.

I rest my case.

Won’t be long before our old stock muscle will start getting beat in the quarter mile or zero to sixty by the battery powered electric vehicles.

Chief of the 60s and Champ - can you two start your own thread devoted to insulting each other, so you don't have to do it in every other discussion? It's pretty tiresome for the rest of us. :rolleyes:

I agree with Stuart 110%!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

That's already happened. The Teslas are pretty damn quick. :o

1970 ram air IV test was 14.11 and a new V6 camaro will turn 13.60 different world. My 68 Firebird will turn mid to low 11’s. At the track your running right in the average of performance street cars being driven to the track again very different world. I guess the best part is your in the lanes surrounded by modern muscle and you get a lot of attention for having the old car that can keep up or you come back after a run and the guy and his buddy’s come over wanting to know what’s under the hood of the old car that just put it to his Mustang. Then you show them the quadrajet stock intake and exhaust manifolds and the looks and questions are priceless.

Yep.

The new cars have it all over our 50+ year old ones when it comes to performance. Back in the late '70's, I got into GTO's because they were way faster than the new hot cars, like the Trans Ams and Z-28's. And Corvettes. WAY faster. 40 years later, not so. Cars today are faster than ever. That said, they are appliances.....to be discarded when used up. The plastics out-gas, the air bags expire, the computers and sensors die, and the technology is no longer supported. NOBODY will be driving a 52 year old Altima or even Porsche.....they will be inoperable. But my 100 year old GTO or that 100 year old 356 Porsche will still be viable transportation......just like my 104 year old Model T Ford is today. And yes, it's much slower than my 52 year old '67 GTO.....

Someone competed at the Hot Rod Drag Week this year with a Tesla, their average over the five day event was 10.66 seconds and 125mph.

My brother is employed as a purchaser for a large new & pre owned dealership chain in St Louis. They have a very specific list of what they want and what they do not want for their pre owned lots.
Nissans are on the list that are ok to buy only if they have low mileage and still have the factory warranty. If they’re outside the factory warranty he is not supposed to buy for them because of their issues.
One of their biggest issues are ever since they got in bed with Renault; those junk CVT transmissions are as durable as potato chips.

If ALL cars didn't break, I would have had little to do the past 45 years. My sister has an Altima with a CVT. It's transportation, that's about all I can say about it. I would think the average owner would have about the same emotion owning it as buying a new toaster oven.

Do you really think the automotive hobby will be around in 52 years???? I doubt the country as we know it will be around in 52 years.

Aren't you the same dummy that told us 'even the lowest GTOs had considerably more horsepower than the Buick GNX'? Just how many horsies are under an Altima's hood? 248.

Yeah, this thread delivered. :rolleyes:

Electric vehicles intrigue me. I considered purchasing an electric dirt bike due to environmental impact and a lot less maintenance on engine (top end rebuilds, oil changes, air filter cleaning etc). However they do not have the operating range I need before decreased performance because of battery drain.

Let's face it, if you grew up with musclecars it is the sound of a well cammed engine, the smell of high octane fuel, and the shaking and rattling that is so intoxicating to us! You just don't get that with an electric vehicle. Power yes, but so smooth and quiet it is rather "forgetable".

Ever consider the cost of a battery pack? Ever install a battery pack? I have.

I have owned at least 10 Nissans . Never ever had a problem with any of them some I ran almost 300,000 miles before I sold them.

They ALL break Genius..

Nissans are among the worst of the Japanese makes. Only Suzuki and Mitsubishi are worse. Although I hate them, I would take a Toyota over any other Japanese make, even though they are the most overrated marque out there.

Also was the gto tuned or just put together and not bothered with? Take a 360 hp gto,,,add a carb thats out of wack and a dist. thats not operating correctly and now you have a 250 hp gto. Just these 2 basic items not being correct(easy to do) can kill performance.

Lot of guys taking the troll’s bait here...

Don

Nice fall preview morning here.

I suppose you have facts to back that up?

Roll Tide! ;)

Yes but we have all now learned how dumb people are to have paid upwards of $100,000 for a 67 GTO when they could have bought a $20,000 Nissan Altima. Not to mention this knowledge transfer comes at no cost! Amazing stuff!

If you’re talking an old one I’m not surprised.
I did a girlfriends head gasket back in the 90s on her 1984 Sentra and running an ID mic down the cylinder I found the bores barely had any wear with 200,000 miles.
The new ones are having many issues as they’re using Renault based parts and designs. Renault has always been legendary for junk; sone might remember how bad those Renault Alliances were in the 80s that AMC sold.

X2 spot on.

When I lived in Colorado Springs around 2003-2004 a Supra completely annihilated my GTO off a light. Fast in the day, not so much in modern times.
The cool factor of muscle cars still rules.

Over the years I've owned several Nissan Maximas. In my experience they were great cars with no significant issues. Would any of them been able to outrun my 67 Gto's.? Don't think so. They were close, but likely low 15 second cars, perhaps upper 14's at best. My 335 horse, automatic 67 could run 14.7 +/- a tenth or so. My ram air 67 originally ran very low 14's and with a good tune and minor mods in the 13's.

Your car suckz ... my car rulez !!!

That pretty much sums up all internet debates on automobile quality.

I’m not sure if this is relevant , but I recently helped my nephew out with some advice on a 78 Z28 he went crazy over . He’s 20 , is sort of a car guy - but the newer Japanese & euro stuff . I doubt he had ever seen a carb before . Some how he comes across this Z and he’s totally hooked ! He wanted it for a daily driver . It ran well , was the typical “ 4 bolt main .030 over 350 “ performer intake , Holley 650 , headers , 70’s smog heads , a little lope , the chrome air cleaner and a higher stall lol . He took it for a spin and the bug bit him . He couldn’t get over what a completely different feel this thing had and the sound of the 4bbl etc . He had never driven anything that put out decent low end torque .I was happy for him except the car was pretty roached out underneath and it took me 2 days to talk him out of it ! The hillbilly was asking 9k ! So he bought a sensible Mazda for daily duty , That gets way better mpg than the Z and probably quicker - but the cool factor is just that and the seed is planted . He’s saving coin for the right ride in the future , and he’s learning a whole new language . A couple of days go by and he calls back and asks “ well what the heck is that thing your working on “ lol I sent him a subscription to MCR.

Cool! I have 3 sons between 18 and 25. They have no interest in newer cars., just anything 80’s and older. My 11 year old son already wants a Jeep. I guess that’s better than a “tuner” type car.