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gto19 11-21-2019 07:55 PM

What’s this ? Found in my glove box
 
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I found this little guy in my glove box . 67 gto

Can anyone tell me what it is ?

Jonsie 11-21-2019 08:30 PM

Looks like maybe some residue on that razor blade, someone was doin' some lines with it years ago?

gto19 11-21-2019 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonsie (Post 6083666)
Looks like maybe some residue on that razor blade, someone was doin' some lines with it years ago?

That was me yesterday. The whole car is torn apart now

Half-Inch Stud 11-21-2019 09:13 PM

ebay!

mlewisariz 11-21-2019 10:12 PM

That is an adapter to put into a 4-track tape cartridge so it will play in an 8-track player.

gto19 11-21-2019 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mlewisariz (Post 6083708)
That is an adapter to put into a 4-track tape cartridge so it will play in an 8-track player.

Wow !! Thanks

Baron Von Zeppelin 11-21-2019 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mlewisariz (Post 6083708)
That is an adapter to put into a 4-track tape cartridge so it will play in an 8-track player.

That practically sounds believable to my youthful ears.
Are you bullshanking us ?? :confused2

Baron Von Zeppelin 11-21-2019 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gto19 (Post 6083667)
That was me yesterday. The whole car is torn apart now

omg
HahahaHAHAhaHaha

Stuart 11-22-2019 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin (Post 6083736)
That practically sounds believable to my youthful ears.
Are you bullshanking us ?? :confused2

That is what it is. Adapter from 4 track to 8 track. I haven't seen one of those for 40 years. The AR logo stands for Automatic Radio.

camerjeff 11-22-2019 08:54 AM

I could have used that in the 1970's, the 63 Bonneville I owned then had a 4-Track player. It only came with 3 Tapes and I didn't like 2 of them. I could have played all my 8-tracks in it. Never knew they existed.

TinInjun 11-22-2019 09:08 AM

http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/15/46/86/41/gidget10.jpg

Stuart 11-22-2019 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by camerjeff (Post 6083817)
I could have used that in the 1970's, the 63 Bonneville I owned then had a 4-Track player. It only came with 3 Tapes and I didn't like 2 of them. I could have played all my 8-tracks in it. Never knew they existed.

It was the other way around - that adapter let you listen to 4 tracks in an 8 track player.


I still have the Automatic Radio 8 track player I got for Christmas as a teenager (I had it in my '61 Catalina back then) and now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure it came with one of those Gidget gadgets in the box.

TAKerry 11-22-2019 09:46 AM

That thing is cool! Never heard of such a thing, didn't even know they made 4 track cartridges!! It should be in a museum. Cant be more than one of them out there by now.

gto19 11-22-2019 10:13 AM

This is pretty cool .
Maybe you can post a picture of it . I can tell something was mounted on the carpet right in front of the 4 speed shifter. My car still has the original carpet,

Thanks guys

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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 6083827)
It was the other way around - that adapter let you listen to 4 tracks in an 8 track player.


I still have the Automatic Radio 8 track player I got for Christmas as a teenager (I had it in my '61 Catalina back then) and now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure it came with one of those Gidget gadgets in the box.


gto19 11-22-2019 10:27 AM

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I found this ad on eBay . I’m thinking that device was mounted in my car in front of the 4 speed . ...I could be wrong though

One more thing I see . This product is from Massachusetts.. that’s where my car came from and was built in Framingham

Simple Man 11-22-2019 03:36 PM

My BIL had a 4 track tape player he received for a birthday present. One of the tapes was Leonard Nimoy singing.....

Firedup6975 11-22-2019 03:53 PM

Collectible for sure.

tigergto 11-22-2019 03:54 PM

Back in the late sixties I had. Simca that had a 4 track player it . If I were too mention that today, probably no one would know they even existed. My wife doesn’t, and sometimes I even questioned whether my memory was accurate.

Stuart 11-22-2019 04:19 PM

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It's sort of a curiosity today, but not worth much or collectible unless you happen to have some 4 track tapes sitting around. They were a pretty short fad that pretty much went away about five minutes after 8 tracks were introduced.

For those who have never seen one, unlike an 8 track where you stuck it into a slot on the front, a 4 track cartridge sort of sat on top of the player.

Muntz was the main brand, this is a picture of their player:

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...7&d=1574453422

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Originally Posted by gto19 (Post 6083844)
I found this ad on eBay . I’m thinking that device was mounted in my car in front of the 4 speed . ...I could be wrong though

One more thing I see . This product is from Massachusetts.. that’s where my car came from and was built in Framingham

Besides the Gidget, the other things in the ad you posted actually would slide into the slot on an 8 track player so you could listen to the radio, if you didn't already have one in your car - back then most cars didn't have FM, and quite a few didn't have radios at all.

My Automatic Radio 8 track player looked like this. It mounted under the dash on a heavy steel bracket, and was removable; you'd take it out of the car so people couldn't steal it. I imagine they had other models that did mount on the trans tunnel.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...8&d=1574453434

My first job out of engineering school was at a company that built the recording and playback tape heads that went inside 8 track players. By the time I got there, 8 tracks were basically dead and they had moved on to building the heads that went in computer hard drives and floppy disk drives, but we still had a ton of old 8 track stuff sitting around. My job was designing and building the automated manufacturing and testing machines used to make the heads, and we would store the machine programs on 8 track tapes - when you walked through the production area, every machine or console had a 8 track player sticking out of the front panel. I always thought it was pretty funny. :)

unruhjonny 11-22-2019 04:51 PM

Ok, I've heard of '4 track' before, and heard that it was similar to '8 track', but this adapter and discussion made me look it up;

4-Track (youtube) video

interesting!

not captivating, but interesting!

Now, my question is this;
Were '4 tracks' as prone to over tightening and breaking at the glued ends as '8 tracks'?

camerjeff 11-22-2019 05:10 PM

[QUOTE=Stuart;6083827]It was the other way around - that adapter let you listen to 4 tracks in an 8 track player.


Got it, would not have helped me at all unless I only wanted to listen to that Buddy Holly 4-track. The other 2 were late 50's Country that I didn't care for.

Sidponcho 11-22-2019 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gto19 (Post 6083844)
I found this ad on eBay . I’m thinking that device was mounted in my car in front of the 4 speed . ...I could be wrong though

One more thing I see . This product is from Massachusetts.. that’s where my car came from and was built in Framingham

Melrose, MA - 12 minutes from where I'm sitting right now :) Apartment buildings now

gto19 11-22-2019 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sidponcho (Post 6083968)
Melrose, MA - 12 minutes from where I'm sitting right now :) Apartment buildings now

You didn’t happen to ever see a original red 67 gto HO floating around in the area?

OG68 11-22-2019 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tigergto (Post 6083951)
Back in the late sixties I had. Simca that had a 4 track player it . If I were too mention that today, probably no one would know they even existed. My wife doesn’t, and sometimes I even questioned whether my memory was accurate.

Mention what??? The Simca or the 4 track player?

tigergto 11-22-2019 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OG68 (Post 6083993)
Mention what??? The Simca or the 4 track player?

Lol. I was talking about the 4 track but now that You mentioned it, I’m sure most people wouldn’t know what a Simca was. It was a Small car made in France. Mine was the only one in my area that I knew of.

cruzn68 11-22-2019 07:13 PM

Wasn't the 4-track invented by Lear of Lear jet fame?

FrankieT/A 11-22-2019 07:51 PM

I had a 4 Track house player. It was the Beta Max of the day. Someone has to lose...

Stuart 11-22-2019 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cruzn68 (Post 6084019)
Wasn't the 4-track invented by Lear of Lear jet fame?

Madman Muntz came up with the 4 track. Bill Lear came up with the 8 track. There's a short history of the two types here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereo-Pak

Simple Man 11-22-2019 09:14 PM

Muntz also made cars.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muntz_Car_Company

1stgenbird 11-26-2019 11:27 AM

I grew up in the 8-track era and never heard of a 4-track cartridge.

FrankieT/A 11-26-2019 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 1stgenbird (Post 6085037)
I grew up in the 8-track era and never heard of a 4-track cartridge.

Oh yeah, the tape looked exactly like an 8-track except scaled down.

mlewisariz 11-26-2019 12:33 PM

4-track cartridges had a hole in the bottom and when placed in the player you pulled or pushed a lever that rotated the driven wheel into the capstan thereby advancing the tape. Also, 4-tracks had only 2 channel pickups and 2 programs on each tape, while 8-tracks were 4 channel w/ 4 programs and the driven wheel was built into the cartridge

unruhjonny 11-26-2019 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 1stgenbird (Post 6085037)
I grew up in the 8-track era and never heard of a 4-track cartridge.

how is that even possible? :confused:

I grew up in what might be considered the Compact Disc era, even though when I started buying music, it was on Cassette format... and I heard of this!?
I heard of Reel to Reel, but until quite recently I had never seen one in person.

I'm sharing this just for fun;
My first albums I bought (in order; in all bought in while in grade 6) were:
Bon Jovi; Slippery When Wet
Def Leppard; Hysteria
Guns 'N Roses; Appetite for Destruction

The first two were bought a couple years after their initial release;
I remember going all over downtown Winnipeg with my cousin trying to find a copy of 'Slippery When Wet' at a price I could afford - when everyone had 'New Jersey' on sale at a price I could afford...
Earlier that same year I remember being busted by my mom after the fact for sneaking out of the house one day in what might be called "Joe Elliot jeans" (pictured below)
Yet later that year I remember one school yard argument with a classmate;
He insisted the name of the band was 'Paradise City', and wouldn't hear anything to the contrary.

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/91/5f/67/9...0a054ef90e.jpg

lol

ah, the late 1980's!

/tangent

;)

lust4speed 11-26-2019 09:31 PM

There were 4-track tapes available that were very large, maybe 6x8 and they would play for 2 hours. You could go to the local Muntz dealer and they would record whatever music you desired on the tapes. I had a really nice (and really large) Craig 4/8 track player that some low life stole out of the GTO in 1970 at the local junior college. He also slit the rubber window seal off the rear quarter window to get to the lock plunger. May he rot in hell...

bird72 11-26-2019 09:50 PM

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I do like the analog and the reels, but don't think I'll go back to 8 tracks. 50 year old decks need rehab / rebuilt, no matter the type.

Heybuck 11-27-2019 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tigergto (Post 6083951)
Back in the late sixties I had. Simca that had a 4 track player it . If I were too mention that today, probably no one would know they even existed. My wife doesn’t, and sometimes I even questioned whether my memory was accurate.

For a VERY brief time in 1969, I owned a Simca Aronde. Only bought it as stop gap car (didn't have any money in those days - Come to think of it, I STILL don't have any money). But it was cheap and very reliable small car. I think the only expense I had over about a 4 month period was putting petrol in it. Don't even remember changing the oil. Loaned it to a friend to go to Uni, it got stolen. Never saw it again. (But I still have my friend:D)

TAKerry 11-27-2019 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 1stgenbird (Post 6085037)
I grew up in the 8-track era and never heard of a 4-track cartridge.

Me too. I thought I was the cats meow when I got a stereo for Christmas that had the ability to record the album onto a blank 8 track! My older brother was an audiophile and had a dynamite setup complete with a very expensive reel to reel. Another brother had a 'best technology' of the day tape player in his truck. It was both 8 track and cassette.

389 11-27-2019 10:50 AM

Those Automatic Radio 8 tracks really sounded nice. I had a few of them. Panasonic really took the 8 track to the top though.. Some of those units from the 80s were spectacular. The speed and size of the tape gave them the ability to reproduce sound decently, better then cassette in my opinion.. I also have an Akai recorder..

Baron Von Zeppelin 11-27-2019 11:13 AM

The only exposure i had to 4-track tapes was about 1970 or 71 when my Dad was loading a big box full of them into his car from my grandparents house - to throw into the dumpster where he worked.

They looked normal to me [like an 8-track best i remember at about 7 y.o.]

Why are they trashing all these ?
Old 4-tracks son, can't play them anymore .

That was the first and last time i ever heard anything about a 4-track tape.
They sure died fast and hard

I ran 8-tracks up through about 81 or 82.
Later in life when i learned Pontiac offered cassette players starting in 1971 or 1972 , i was kind of shocked by that.

OG68 11-27-2019 11:49 AM

I bought my first cassette player in 70 and mounted it under the dash of my 60 Ford. My first tapes were by Carol King, Lee Michaels, Cat Stevens, Led Zeppelin.
During my first Vietnam deployment I had bought a new Sony cassette player that didn't require manually flipping to play the other side. Its almost as big as the laptop I'm typing on. I still have it and may put it into the Goat when the restoration is complete. Like the ads say; "Ran when I parked it 30 years ago" lol

sdbob 11-27-2019 01:38 PM

Still have my Muntz 4 track from 1965. Needs drive belt Also Muntz 4-8 track from 69 era. Plus all the tapes from 60s era. $$$$$

gto19 11-27-2019 07:18 PM

Hey

If anyone has a actual use for this just let me know and I’ll send it to you ..just pay the shipping or buy me a beer

65sport 11-28-2019 03:33 AM

Looks like a micro-switch like maybe from a shifter.

MR GTOTRANSAMGRANDPRIX 11-29-2019 06:35 AM

This little goody is called a "Gidget". It was made by a company called Automatic Radio. They made 4 track players, and 8 track players (using the correct cartridges, with 1/4 tape in them in a continuous loop.) This was in the 60s and early 70s. I bought my first 8 track player in 1967, and installed it in my dads 1966 Grand Prix. It had a slide in mount, with a key lock, so I just removed it after I was finished driving the car. As you can imagine, I am fairly old now, I will be 70 this coming June, anyway, the Gidget's function was to snap in to the round hole in the bottom of a 4 track cartridge, and function as the capstan wheel, as 4 track cartridges had no built in capstan pinch roller, that was part of a 4 track player, it would just pop up from below. So, Automatic Radio invented the Gidget for the owner of the more modern 8 track players to pop this into one of their 4 track cartridges, and be able to play it in an 8 track player, as all 8 track cartridges had their own rubber capstan roller inside them from the factory where they were made. 4 track cartridges did not. So, this was a nifty little adapter that allowed you to play an older 4 track cartridge in an 8 track player. Hope you can visualize this! You might look up some 4 and 8 track cartridges and players on ebay to check it out!


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