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Brewster 03-22-2020 07:49 AM

Judge Pics
 
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Found some old show pictures going through some albums. Enjoy

Judge273 03-22-2020 08:06 AM

Here’s one or two for you...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...00dc5d46f6.jpg
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Maybe three...


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Brewster 03-22-2020 08:33 AM

Judge Ragtop
 
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Another cool ride

muscle_collector 03-22-2020 01:11 PM

my old 71 judge vert. ive been missing that car lately.

Brewster 03-22-2020 01:39 PM

I dont know if Milt still has that one but he did sell off allot of them. Kill car thats for sure.

muscle_collector 03-22-2020 07:58 PM

no it to new York I think, a guy named barto or something like that owns it now

keith k 03-22-2020 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brewster (Post 6121793)
Found some old show pictures going through some albums. Enjoy

Are these from the POCI/GTOAA show in Dayton (2009 or so, I think)?
Looks familiar...

Brewster 03-23-2020 06:39 AM

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Yeah, thats when I had my four speed there. I think thats when I started liking the a bodies more. With all those great examples how could you not.

Sport71 03-23-2020 01:40 PM

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Also from the 2009 "Co-Vention" in Dayton. I taped up the floor of the Nutter Center for spots and helped park cars, so I got to talk to a lot of folks on the way in. One of the nicest guys, and with a fantastic Judge, was FVGRAMPS. He's the original owner of this beauty ...

Chief of the 60's 03-23-2020 02:17 PM

https://66.media.tumblr.com/072e9343...140d2cf365.jpg

Baron Von Zeppelin 03-25-2020 01:29 AM

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70 455 H-O R/A Jvert Automatic
The only one known to still exist

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1585114154

Chief of the 60's 03-25-2020 08:23 AM

This Ram 4 was recently posted in another thread - http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...2&postcount=43

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...5&d=1584924376

Baron Von Zeppelin 03-25-2020 09:09 AM

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2 Lane Black Top - Movie Car/Movie Star
Ram4 Automatic

afaik ,,, It still lives in Alaska

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1585141779

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1585141779

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1585141779

brians 03-25-2020 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin (Post 6122744)
2 Lane Black Top - Movie Car/Movie Star
Ram4 Automatic


Umm, no - it was a 455 with Mark IV Ram Air. :old: :D

PontiacJim1959 03-25-2020 06:59 PM

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My 1970 Judge, about 1981.

PontiacJim1959 03-25-2020 07:04 PM

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How about the Judge prototype? Note the stripe.

Brewster 03-25-2020 07:04 PM

Love those old pictures. Thanks for sharing Jim

tekuhn 03-25-2020 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Brewster (Post 6122101)
Yeah, thats when I had my four speed there. I think thats when I started liking the a bodies more. With all those great examples how could you not.

Gorgeous '73 SD. I know a family that is the original owner of a pair of '73 SD cars. A T/A and a Formula. One Red w/white interior and one white w/red interior. Both completely original and stored in a warehouse since I saw them 25 years ago. about 75K miles on each. Would love to try to own one or both, but way past my budget and not for sale anyway.

johnta1 03-25-2020 09:26 PM

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:


Have any pics?


:)

muscle_collector 03-25-2020 09:56 PM

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my 70 black with red interior 4 speed. I took this picture in the early 80's.

tekuhn 03-26-2020 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by johnta1 (Post 6123035)
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:


Have any pics?


:)

If that question was for me - no, I don't have pictures. I really want to protect the anonymity of the owners, but I assure you the story is true. Both cars are all original paint, unmolested, original owner cars. Automatic and A/C both. I inquired about them about 10 years ago and did not get a response, but they definitely know what they have.

6804gto 03-26-2020 12:15 PM

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A few pics the original owner of my Judge give me from back in 1971/2 time frame.
Last one is of the car recently

John Milner 03-26-2020 01:02 PM

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Here's my dad's Warwick Blue '69 Judge ram air 3 4 speed car from around 1975. He had just went through the engine and had got back from the first test ride. He sold the car in the mid 80's. The car ended up selling in the Oklahoma City area in the early 90's. Not sure where it ended up from there. Would love to find it and buy it back.

Baron Von Zeppelin 03-26-2020 02:10 PM

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my 70 black with red interior 4 speed. I took this picture in the early 80's.

From Wiki-Leaks archives
same car, same guy, same early 80's

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1585246274

Baron Von Zeppelin 03-26-2020 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by John Milner (Post 6123251)
Here's my dad's Warwick Blue '69 Judge ram air 3 4 speed car from around 1975.

Your Dad was definitely "one of the boys" back then .
No hood on the maiden voyages was always the big status symbol for - fresh engine.

who owns this car - with the peace sign, mag wheels, and 4 in the floor

vertigto 03-26-2020 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PontiacJim1959 (Post 6122957)
My 1970 Judge, about 1981.

Has that car always been in North Carolina?

PontiacJim1959 03-26-2020 06:41 PM

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Has that car always been in North Carolina?

No. That was Connecticut were I am originally from. Paid $350 for the car and slapped an expired plate on it, drove it home from Rhode Island to Connecticut very gently as it had no mufflers, and the ex-wife followed me in our 1967 GTO convertible. The original engine was gone and it had a 1972 250HP 7k3 head engine. It was a wide ratio 4-speed car. The body was rust free, but had a few dents and the interior was good. I always thought it was "saddle" in color like a horse saddle, but I think that was wrong. Pepper green with the original reflective stripes that I thought were cool at night when lights hit them. And to add intrigue, I clearly remember the square decal/sticker on the door that said Canada and thought it odd, but didn't know enough about the cars in my early 20's - it was just fast and I liked GTO's. I think the previous owner got rid of it because it had a charging issue and took me about 3 months to finally find - a broken wire inside what was a perfect looking out casing. It was in the engine compartment and figured the wire got pinched when the engine was changed out.

Believe it or not, the '72 engine was fast in that car. I eventually pulled the engine to install in the '67 convertible as its engine developed a rod knock. The second photo is the car minus the engine/trans in my back yard. I sold the car for $400 to a man who said he was going to restore it. The $400 bought me my first set of torches/tanks to do autobody work.

The photo is my GTO lineup looking out my apartment at the time window. 1970 Judge, 1965 GTO convertible shell, 1967 GTO convertible daily driver.

PontiacJim1959 03-26-2020 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin (Post 6123283)
Your Dad was definitely "one of the boys" back then .
No hood on the maiden voyages was always the big status symbol for - fresh engine.

who owns this car - with the peace sign, mag wheels, and 4 in the floor

Yep, no hood was a status symbol - meant you had a fast/street racer.

But if you had a big hood scoop, an arrow on the hood (aka Rambler Scrambler), blacked out headlights, and hood pins on your 1977 Caprice station wagon, and had the gonads to run a Connecticut state trooper at night in an unmarked black 5.0 Mustang, well.................. you got an a** chewing from the cop informing you that next time you need to have something bigger under the hood, and a really fat ticket to go with the car. Who knew?

69 RA GTO 03-28-2020 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by John Milner (Post 6123251)
Here's my dad's Warwick Blue '69 Judge ram air 3 4 speed car from around 1975. He had just went through the engine and had got back from the first test ride. He sold the car in the mid 80's. The car ended up selling in the Oklahoma City area in the early 90's. Not sure where it ended up from there. Would love to find it and buy it back.


John, we need to get your dad's car registered in the 69 judge registry and then I can add it to my list of people looking for their original family's cars so if/when I come across the car I can let them know.

1969 Ram Air 03-29-2020 10:41 AM

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My old 69's. Mayfair Maize Judge and Expresso Brown two barrel.

KJL 03-29-2020 11:54 AM

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These are cell phone pics of the old pictures. First one is the day I brought her home in August of 1977. Had a short block with a rod hanging out the side. Second pic is with a friends 70 TA that was packed up and heading to Texas A&M.

bruwster 03-29-2020 01:47 PM

Judge Pics
 
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Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin (Post 6122744)

You are correct this car is still here. In Alaska

John Milner 03-31-2020 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 69 RA GTO (Post 6123961)
John, we need to get your dad's car registered in the 69 judge registry and then I can add it to my list of people looking for their original family's cars so if/when I come across the car I can let them know.

I wish we could find a VIN to the car but unfortunately we have not been able to find it.

Baron Von Zeppelin 03-31-2020 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bruwster (Post 6124234)
You are correct this car is still here. In Alaska

That is one bad-azz Judge you have.
Thanks for sharing your info and documents with Steve Hoog years ago.
He really enjoyed doing the "investigative/discovery" work back then, and the results.

The Orbit Orange car used in Dazed & Confused movie is also still around.
PY member here in NC owns it.

1969 Ram Air 04-01-2020 09:14 AM

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Here's my liberty blue/parchment, 4-speed the day I bought it. It was all original including the carb and it was still on its original title.

johnta1 04-01-2020 09:37 AM

NICE!

What year did you buy it?

:)

1969 Ram Air 04-01-2020 11:40 AM

Thanks!

I bought it in 2005 from Gary Cave, a local Pontiac guy. The car was sold new in the DC area and Gary bought it from the original owner and stored it in his warehouse with 20 or so other GTO's. Gary restores 1-2 cars a year and this car somehow didn't make the cut. Glad he parked it inside. I remember he had a couple Judge convertibles that were parked outside!

Sport71 04-01-2020 12:05 PM

Liberty, Parchment, 4-speed - what an awesome combination! Very nice!

Baron Von Zeppelin 04-01-2020 01:00 PM

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... Glad he parked it inside. I remember he had a couple Judge convertibles that were parked outside!

Here's one of the "outside" JVerts that was at his place.
69 VooDoo Green Ram3 Automatic

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1585760389

Liberty Blue with Parchment was my favorite 69 combo.
In the 80's and 90's my "plan" was for my 69 Carousel/Parchment Judge to change into a LibbyBlue/Parch GTO - with a rear spoiler. Judge Delete.
Never went into effect - still sitting.
Will be an Orange/Parch Judge again.

Baron Von Zeppelin 04-01-2020 01:10 PM

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Tri-Fecta from Milt Robson Auction in Georgia

69 Black/Black/Black Ram4 4spd
70 Red/Red/White Ram4 4spd
71 Gold/Black/Black 455-HO 4spd

Somewhere on that floor was also his 69 Blue FireBird Convertible Ram4 4spd

He sold all of them at that auction, plus tons of other super-duper cool cars.

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1585761011

Brewster 04-01-2020 06:49 PM

Oh man, that poor vert. Wow

CDN2PLS2 04-01-2020 07:12 PM

We were at that Party!

Baron Von Zeppelin 04-01-2020 07:14 PM

The Milt Robson cars -
If i remember correctly, the 69 and 70 JVerts were bought by the same collector in California.
Price was over $1 Million for that pair.

M_C said the 71 went to NY

i don't know where the 69 BirdVert Ram4 4spd went to.
He sold many special 69 Camaro's at that event - ZL1, Copo, Yenko etc

At one time he owned 3 of the 69 Trans Am Convertibles
But think they had all been sold before he did that auction.

Met Milt in 1990 at GTOAA Convention in Kentucky.
Had NO idea he was a big-shot multi-millionaire.
We were just a couple of Pontiac guys talking about the Red 70 JVert he had there.
I really liked that car

Tellyshavilli 04-01-2020 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Brewster (Post 6122101)
Yeah, thats when I had my four speed there. I think thats when I started liking the a bodies more. With all those great examples how could you not.

I looked at that 73 super duty when the original owner had it back in the 70s in New York

Tellyshavilli 04-01-2020 09:58 PM

Raiv Judge
 
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This was my first RAIV Judge bought it out of Syracuse New York 1978
Red on red original paint and drivetrain . 4 Spd , 3:90 p/s, p/b, t. Wheel , hood tach , gauges , formula wheel . And it’s still here !

Tellyshavilli 04-01-2020 10:08 PM

RAIV Judge
 
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Well kept

muscle_collector 04-01-2020 11:00 PM

bvz I believe there was another guy who actually bought it from the auction and barto bought it from him.
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Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin (Post 6125580)
The Milt Robson cars -
If i remember correctly, the 69 and 70 JVerts were bought by the same collector in California.
Price was over $1 Million for that pair.

M_C said the 71 went to NY

i don't know where the 69 BirdVert Ram4 4spd went to.
He sold many special 69 Camaro's at that event - ZL1, Copo, Yenko etc

At one time he owned 3 of the 69 Trans Am Convertibles
But think they had all been sold before he did that auction.

Met Milt in 1990 at GTOAA Convention in Kentucky.
Had NO idea he was a big-shot multi-millionaire.
We were just a couple of Pontiac guys talking about the Red 70 JVert he had there.
I really liked that car


flyingn 04-01-2020 11:18 PM

The movie car was not a real Judge was it? And it had a vinyl top too


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flyingn 04-01-2020 11:24 PM

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Heres my Warwick blue 55k mile RA III 4 speed Judge. Still 100% numbers match too. I know the 2,3,4th owners.

flyingn 04-01-2020 11:29 PM

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heres a picture of the lomg time 2nd owner. Had it like 30 years. We met up at MCACN in 18. First time he saw it since the 90's. The second pic is me getting interviewed by Kevin Oeste from V8 TV & Radio and musclecar of the week and owner of V8 speed and restoration


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