Judge on ebay
 

Looks like a Mayfair Maize Judge with auto and A/C. pretty rough shape but PHS says its a real one. Sold at Van Winkle Pontiac in TX who used to race the Swiss cheese Catalinas back in the day.

$20K and no bids...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Pontia...YAAOSwz2VeerOb

Parchment Vinyl top and Mayfair Maize auto is very unique...not sure desirable?

Will need a carb for sure!Tom

I've never seen a Mayfair Judge with parchment interior and a white vinyl top. Not that desirable, but fairly unique. I third pedal would have helped it, but that always does.

Very unique color combo 69 Judge.

Cool combo for a Texas car for sure.

Theres something extremely rare about that car. I've never and I say NEVER seen a NON orange judge built before march.
This car was built 4the week of February.
Maybe 1st non orange car built???

Automatics are not desirable.

I'm sorry u feel that way John.
I beg to differ. I'm not stupid,I know people like the 4spds better but a judge is a judge and to say its not desirable is reaching a bit.

I would say autos are not AS desirable,still a judge.Tom

Off topic, but I know there are some SD guys in here.......

1974 SD 455 Formula w/ 35K miles. Price seems low?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Pontia...oAAOSwll5ebBTQ

Agreed.
Properly restored, I think it would look sharp, and be an attention getter.
Acknowledge it's not everyone's cup of tea, though!

There was a sharp driving non-numbers CR A/C Auto Judge on ebay a couple years ago. $37k no sale. $20k for this pile is too steep. Maybe $10k

Good Eye, as you noticed that to... I talked with the owner today and going thru my 69 Judge registry this is the first NON orange Judge built in the Fremont plant that I have registered so far. If I did not have so many other 69 projects already, I would be all over this car.



There is a brother to this car built a couple weeks later except with Black vinyl top and Black interior. Both cars were ordered and delivered to the same dealer

I would say autos are not as desirable for resale. But I usually prefer driving my automatic for cruising around. If I want to relive my teen age years the 4sp is more fun for racing and amusing myself. Maybe the left leg isn't as strong as it used to be.

The auction ended with no bids. The days of selling roached out, automatic Judges with MIA drive trains for $20k are over.

I agree. It seems like a lot of yellow/beige// white top cars came out of Texas. The lack of original motor definitely makes it an "Acquired taste. No thanks"

I bet if it was orange it would of sold.
People still want the signature color.

I actually meant auto not as desirable. Of course any Judge is desirable. However, I have seen some really nice ones flounder.

The important numbers matching stuff is a bigger deal than the automatic trans in my opinion.
I would think it might have sold if it still had the correct mail hauling equipment up front?

I just looked up my 69 Judge PHS's, this car seems to be the earliest non CR Judge. I'm not 100 percent sure as I have many PHS's with close invoice dates and VIN's that indicate trim tag date of late February into early March.

Probably right, at least would get some close offers.
Orange/Parchment/White Top with Auto/AC , would be a sharp car to drive.

Mayfair is just the lowest rung on the 69 totem pole.
10k with no reserve might get some bites.

Earliest Non-Orange Judge in my files too.

A mayfair automatic judge with a vinyl top is nifty to look at and probably very rare but very few potential judge buyers would want it in their garage.

Back in the early 80’s I got my hands on an original 69 Pontiac paint chip sheet and I marked it up with my best to worst rating. Funny thing is I still have it and my worst ratings were for Expresso, Mayfair and all the greens which are the colors of almost all my cars today, go figure.

I agree

as I get older and my knees and hips are getting weaker an automatic will keep you in the drivers seat longer than a stick.

This is one of the more interesting Judges I've seen in recent memory. Kinda like the silver/blue/blue Judge that someone here used to own--both are what keep this hobby interesting.

Its funny, because as cool as a stick is in a muscle car, I would not want a stick as my daily driver. But always would prefer a stick if I am going out for a cruise. I am guessing thats how most people were feeling when buying these cars new. Especially if your daily commute was in traffic. With a few exceptions, most of these cars were daily drivers to work, school, wherever. Today these cars are the fun to drive classics & many leans toward the manual trans, but I am guessing that was not the case 50 years ago.

30+ years ago I had a GMC Jimmy with a stiff aftermarket clutch setup that was a beast to drive. Todays manuals with all their improvements are so easy on the driver by comparison.

Very neat unique color combo 69 GTO Judge even with a auto trans, desirable because it is different/special.