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Willshire 03-31-2020 08:26 PM

1964 Grand Prix Tail Panel Repair
 
Has anyone repaired the section of tail panel above the tail lights? This tail panel rotted from the trunk seal to the tail light opening. This is like 5 bends in less than 2 inches. I'm just wondering what you guys did. Cat and bonne tail panels dont have the cut outs for the tail lights and i'm noticing this 1 year only is about as rare as frog fur.

Thanks
Adam

Willshire 03-31-2020 08:28 PM

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Willshire 04-01-2020 08:30 PM

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Sometimes you gotta stand back, grab two pieces of angle iron and a BFH and sort it out. 2 hours, some swearing, and.....you’re done. Lol


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MUSLCAH 04-01-2020 08:33 PM

Your on your way !

Willshire 04-01-2020 08:38 PM

Thanks. It’s all hidden but, after 5 years of working on it, no point in half assing it. The number of bends kinda concerned me, to the point I was looking for a brake. Measure twice, bend once. Lol


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hurryinhoosier62 04-01-2020 10:53 PM

Adam, have you tried Frank's Pontiac Parts in CA or Steve Barrack at Pontiac Heaven in AZ (a member here)? Unless you've spent some time using a sheet metal brake and are comfortable bending compound curves I'd be attempting to find a usable one. One more place to try is Steve Snyder at Colorado Pontiacs (on Facebook).

MUSLCAH 04-01-2020 11:48 PM

I’ve bent many a piece of sheet metal on a piece of angle iron ,attached to my bench. Hammer Time !

mechanickeith 04-01-2020 11:52 PM

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Willshire 04-02-2020 11:30 AM

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Adam, have you tried Frank's Pontiac Parts in CA or Steve Barrack at Pontiac Heaven in AZ (a member here)? Unless you've spent some time using a sheet metal brake and are comfortable bending compound curves I'd be attempting to find a usable one. One more place to try is Steve Snyder at Colorado Pontiacs (on Facebook).

Thanks HH. Franks only has a cat tail panel. GP is punched out for the taillights. Dan's Garage in Washington appears to have one but, i think i worked it out. Check out the photo above. First try and i almost got it mint. another hour of messing around and make sure it's as good as i can get it and weld it in.

Thanks again.

Willshire 04-02-2020 11:36 AM

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I’ve bent many a piece of sheet metal on a piece of angle iron ,attached to my bench. Hammer Time !

Two 3" x 3/8" angle iron holds it good and tight. to bend over 90 i grabbed a piece of flat bar to sit up above the angle irons. i'm glad it worked out and i saved roughly $400CDN minimum. Small wins. lol

Willshire 04-08-2020 05:26 PM

I’m going to stop doubting my fabrication abilities
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Willshire 04-08-2020 08:58 PM

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Just a skiff of mud and we’re done!


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MUSLCAH 04-08-2020 09:12 PM

Float a little lead in there......you can do it !

Willshire 04-08-2020 11:42 PM

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Float a little lead in there......you can do it !


Hahaha. Now there is something I’ve never tried! I saw Dan Short do it in Fantom Works once. My temporary home office happens to be right in front of my tv lol. I managed to keep the factory braze weld in the corner. This is one of those builds that if I’d have known what I was getting my self into I’d have bought a car that wasn’t a one year model or at least panels were repopped for it. You can’t beat the experience though.


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AZ64GP 04-08-2020 11:55 PM

Lookin' great, Willshire!

MUSLCAH 04-09-2020 09:26 AM

My 64 GP is from California.....and haven’t had to fix any rust. I put a new Windsheild in it last year....and to my surprise,there was not one speck of rust in the channel.....and all the clips were mint too.

Willshire 04-09-2020 09:33 AM

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My 64 GP is from California.....and haven’t had to fix any rust. I put a new Windsheild in it last year....and to my surprise,there was not one speck of rust in the channel.....and all the clips were mint too.


I had a good windshield channel. But the rear window was cancerous. I fixed the channel but the clips I ordered were wrong and I didn’t notice until I went to put the trim on and it stuck out an 1/8”. I got some new clips that are correct. I will put the window in when the trunk is complete. Still a ways to go. I have the same problem on the right side as above so another few days on that. I have to repair the structure down the sides of the trunk opening as well. It appears a fair amount of water invaded this trunk over the years. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...d909e054fa.jpg
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MUSLCAH 04-09-2020 11:32 AM

Yup......Iam thinking my back window ain’t as pristine as the front either....someone was in there before...it appears. But Iam not ripping the scab off that ,just yet.

Willshire 04-09-2020 11:46 AM

The inverse slant didn’t help. Water stands in the corners like a champ. As does the lip under the trunk seal. I think that’s how I got so much cancer in the tail. And 20 years in Ontario winters didn’t help


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MUSLCAH 04-09-2020 05:17 PM

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The inverse slant didn’t help. Water stands in the corners like a champ. As does the lip under the trunk seal. I think that’s how I got so much cancer in the tail. And 20 years in Ontario winters didn’t help


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FYI......when you install the new trunk weather strip....make sure you put down one continuous bead of 3M weather strip adhesive.....may use the whole tube. And a generous bead too.

Willshire 04-09-2020 06:34 PM

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FYI......when you install the new trunk weather strip....make sure you put down one continuous bead of 3M weather strip adhesive.....may use the whole tube. And a generous bead too.


The second time I put it in I put it behind the clips before I put them in and a generous gulp around the opening and for giggles I put a small bead in the seal before I put the rope in it. It’s a little messier than Steele’s instructions but it worked well. No leaks. Just the wrong clips lol


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Willshire 04-13-2020 10:13 AM

I got the right side started. The left side went in as a set (rear panel plus part quarter panel. The right side has to be installed separately as the donor section was welded 1/8” off from the part on my car. 1/8”! That’s some serious tolerance allowances lol.

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