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JUDGE3 12-05-2020 10:39 AM

Flareless Formula(s)
 
Formula's look much better with the full flare compliments. easy removal if concerned with the originality thing. this is a nice one. never liked white interior though.

look like somethings missing without em.

grd777 12-05-2020 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JUDGE3 (Post 6202660)
Formula's look much better with the full flare compliments. easy removal if concerned with the originality thing. this is a nice one. never liked white interior though.

look like somethings missing without em.

This looks great Pontiac should of had this as a option

Formulabruce 12-06-2020 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JUDGE3 (Post 6202660)
Formula's look much better with the full flare compliments. easy removal if concerned with the originality thing. this is a nice one. never liked white interior though.

look like somethings missing without em.

all that AND the chrome?, would you like a T/A with all the chrome?
I prefer the more sport/ bling look I guess.
https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...7&d=1607305021

Transamric 12-07-2020 01:05 AM

"easy removal"?? Sure, if you don't mind dealing with all the drilled mounting holes to have to deal with. Can you say 'new paint job'?

stuta 12-07-2020 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JUDGE3 (Post 6202660)
Formula's look much better with the full flare compliments. easy removal if concerned with the originality thing. this is a nice one. never liked white interior though.

look like somethings missing without em.

Wow...I just had to reply to your thread! That's a basically a picture of the custom F-bird I built back in 1978.
Started life as a 72 Esprit my father purchased new. He wanted to buy GP, but I talked him into the Firebird...tried to pull him into a white TA sitting on the showroom floor, but he wouldn't go for it : (
Anyway, fast forward to '77, I got my DL and Pop gave me the rusted Esprit after my Sister got done beating the hell out of the '72.
I'll make a long story short.....she had a 350 / auto. I put in a junkyard 400/400turbo trans out of a 70 GP.
My Pop always got a posi rear in all his cars. So when he ordered this '72 late in 1971. It ended up with a 3.42 posi out of a Formula/TA from the factory. The car was always fast, even with the 350. Now with the 400, she really came to life!
I loved the look of the flairs, so I ordered a complete set from the Pontiac dealer. I got a rear spoiler from the same JY that I found the 400 from.
Had the body all repaired and flairs installed, and painted her midnight blue metallic.
The interior I replaced with a complete take out from a wrecked '78 TA. The parts that wouldn't fit, because of the rear window difference, I spray dyed to match the saddle color.
Oh yeah, I put a Formula hood on her too. I found that in a different JY for $30 !

I changed the dash, gauges, radio, and ended up with gold snowflake rims found, yeah...you guessed it, the junk yard...lol
As a 17-18 year old, I was so proud of what I had created.
So when I look at that pix, I can see myself flying around the streets of the Jersey shore back in the late 70's, early 80's
I ended up selling her to my roommate in college. I received a call months later while on break, he smacked her up.

Norwood 12-07-2020 07:52 AM

If you want the wheel spoilers you buy a TA. If you don’t you buy a Formula. Simple, Pontic got it right.

bird72 12-07-2020 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Norwood (Post 6203211)
If you want the wheel spoilers you buy a TA. If you don’t you buy a Formula. Simple, Pontic got it right.

The only thing Pontiac didn't get right is if you wanted a flat hood, you had to like single exhaust 2 barrels :D and I am the lone flat hood fan this side of the Rockies I think.

Held for Ransom 12-07-2020 05:31 PM

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If you want the wheel spoilers you buy a TA. If you don’t you buy a Formula. Simple, Pontic got it right.

Or, you painted and mounted full flare fiberglass units.

Aus78Formula 12-07-2020 07:20 PM

If Pontiac made TA's in pink you'd say they got it right.

Evolution of the 69 Trans Am?

JC455 12-08-2020 03:11 PM

The original design for the 2nd Gen T/A hood was the Formula hood, so Pontiac did have a plan for a "Formula w/ flares."

bird72 12-08-2020 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JC455 (Post 6203672)
The original design for the 2nd Gen T/A hood was the Formula hood, so Pontiac did have a plan for a "Formula w/ flares."

That is true. I can see it as being a continuation of the 69 TA hood "look". Which makes me wonder if they had used that hood on the TA, what would have become of the Formula design. I have never read of that aspect. I think Pontiac made the right choice, as the shaker became part of the TA mojo.

grd777 12-08-2020 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Aus78Formula (Post 6203413)
If Pontiac made TA's in pink you'd say they got it right.

Evolution of the 69 Trans Am?

i guess if it was on the option list someone would have ordered a pink t/a

jerry455 12-08-2020 06:09 PM

I love the spoilers and flairs. I am going to do that to my plain jane Firebird. It is hard to find a nice formula hood. It seems all of the ones I have seen have had the grilles broken out and the rear corners broken.

grd777 12-08-2020 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jerry455 (Post 6203721)
I love the spoilers and flairs. I am going to do that to my plain jane Firebird. It is hard to find a nice formula hood. It seems all of the ones I have seen have had the grilles broken out and the rear corners broken.

looks like a lot of people like it and would have most likely ordered it if it was on the option list .

4birds 12-08-2020 08:00 PM

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This is fugly.

rwfisher 12-08-2020 08:12 PM

I think history shows Pontiac got it right......

Aus78Formula 12-08-2020 09:42 PM

No argument that the shaker conversion to a formula hood is always horrific.
And we are all happy with how these things came out, hence having one and being here. But these things could just as easily have been options on different models since they work, but look odd at times as non-standard, and we'd have supported those options too. But the only options I wished my 78 Formula featured was a front skirt of sorts and fender vents for heat extraction, and of course the smaller scoops were ramair functional rather than die-cast blanks. The flares are what I still don't care about, on my car anyway. They are one of the All or Nothing options.

1971455HO 12-10-2020 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 4birds (Post 6203761)
This is fugly.

Not to insult somebody's decision to do that to their own car...but I agree! Why didn't he put on a set of "Sawblades" too, to really top it off.

grrrrregg!!! 12-10-2020 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 4birds (Post 6203761)
This is fugly.

Ponch would disagree

stuta 12-10-2020 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Aus78Formula (Post 6203794)
No argument that the shaker conversion to a formula hood is always horrific.
And we are all happy with how these things came out, hence having one and being here. But these things could just as easily have been options on different models since they work, but look odd at times as non-standard, and we'd have supported those options too. But the only options I wished my 78 Formula featured was a front skirt of sorts and fender vents for heat extraction, and of course the smaller scoops were ramair functional rather than die-cast blanks. The flares are what I still don't care about, on my car anyway. They are one of the All or Nothing options.

While building my custom formula back in the late 70's, I picked up a shaker to cut into the formula hood. I had the hole all taped out, ready to cut....but just couldn't do it. I stepped back, and took a good look at the beauty of the stock formula hood. That made up my mind to put the shaker on the shelf.
I still have the thing sitting there, waiting to come to life one day : )

burd 12-10-2020 07:32 PM

Butchered mess.

tdavidl 12-11-2020 10:49 AM

that's goldmembers car....

71GP76TA 12-11-2020 01:15 PM

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How about shaker scoop Formulas? This always throws the Formula guys for a loop.

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71GP76TA 12-11-2020 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 4birds (Post 6203761)
This is fugly.

Does anybody know if Ponch's/Corvette Summer car started out as a Formula or Trans Am?

72projectbird 12-11-2020 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 71GP76TA (Post 6204564)
Does anybody know if Ponch's/Corvette Summer car started out as a Formula or Trans Am?

Idk, but that car in Corvette Summer looked badass!

stuta 12-06-2021 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 4birds (Post 6203761)
This is fugly.

I think this guy with the gold "custom" is trying to go for the "Ponch" look from the TV series "Chips". Ponch drove a gold formula with the shaker cut into the hood, and all the TA flairs too.
I had to laugh with the "fugly" comment

Formulabruce 12-06-2021 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 71GP76TA (Post 6204562)
How about shaker scoop Formulas? This always throws the Formula guys for a loop.

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Why? Factory made a Shaker hood Formula for 2 years.
NJ Steve has one, Oh and a Shaker Esprit too..

nas t eh 12-06-2021 08:48 PM

I prefer the formula hood instead of the shaker. I think that if I had ordered a 73 SD Formula new I would have been disappointed when I went to pick it up and saw it for the first time. I think I would have likely asked the dealer to fix it or make it right.

Of course they are so rare and valuable now that you really would be making a mistake to do it, but back then I would have.

bird72 12-07-2021 11:09 AM

I did a test and my flat hood has the same outside air CFM intake as a Super Duty! :) Seriously, If I had a SD I would box all the parts and put an earlier flapper shaker on it.

nas t eh 12-07-2021 12:59 PM

Or just drill out the three rivets and take the block off plate out of the scoop when you drive it and put it back when you park it. I did that for years back when I daily drove them

71GP76TA 12-07-2021 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Formulabruce (Post 6300550)
Why? .

Because it does..

Formulabruce 12-07-2021 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bird72 (Post 6203325)
The only thing Pontiac didn't get right is if you wanted a flat hood, you had to like single exhaust 2 barrels :D and I am the lone flat hood fan this side of the Rockies I think.

Pontiac had Flat Hood, Single Exhaust cars with 400 ft lbs of Torque at ONLY 2400 rpm.
Did I mention its a 2bbl?
Oh, I forgot... ESPRIT too......Yeah.. Touring car !!

Formulabruce 12-07-2021 02:09 PM

Trans Am Started with 4 headlights And 2 hood Scoops.
Trans Am Ended with 4 headlights And 2 hood scoops..

dreamn69 12-08-2021 12:49 PM

I couldn't disagree more. Formulas deserve the clean look. As others have said, want flairs, buy a TA. I have seen way too many Formulas with this added and then they don't understand why they have a hard time selling them for what a clean original sells.

Baron Von Zeppelin 12-09-2021 03:03 PM

Just an oddball flip-side reverse comment here on the subject of adding flares to Formula's.

In late 70's or early 80's a local guy here converted a nice Blue 72 TA 4spd #'s Blk Dlx AC
removed flares & spoilers (all of them - even the rear spoiler)
added Functional Formula RA Hood and Breather
painted the car Brewster Green
shet happens

I tried to buy it from the next owner (a friend) in about 87, but he wouldn't sell.
In Greensboro NC
Then it disappeared a year or two later when he sold it without offering it to me.
Anyone ever heard of that car ? or did it go to the land of misfit toys ?

jhein 12-10-2021 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by nas t eh (Post 6300569)
I prefer the formula hood instead of the shaker. I think that if I had ordered a 73 SD Formula new I would have been disappointed when I went to pick it up and saw it for the first time. I think I would have likely asked the dealer to fix it or make it right.

Of course they are so rare and valuable now that you really would be making a mistake to do it, but back then I would have.

I'll bet that happened, people ordering the SD Formula and didn't know it was going to have the shaker. Just like people who ordered their auto trans car with no console and got a column shift. Doh!


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