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S Courter 01-04-2021 09:18 PM

My 70 GTO Convertible barn find
 
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Brought this home today. Original unmolested White/White/ Saddle?? Buckets, column shift, tilt, A/C, power top, power brakes, power steering. Not running. Came with extra drivers side fender, deck lid,4 original rally IIs and 3 NOS wheel well moldings. Going to need quarters and trunk floor but otherwise solid.

thepontiacman 01-04-2021 09:25 PM

Looks like a good project GTO.

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bluejudge 01-05-2021 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by S Courter (Post 6211546)
Brought this home today. Original unmolested White/White/ Saddle?? Buckets, column shift, tilt, A/C, power top, power brakes, power steering. Not running. Came with extra drivers side fender, deck lid,4 original rally IIs and 3 NOS wheel well moldings. Going to need quarters and trunk floor but otherwise solid.

Nice find, good luck with your project. Marc.

OCMDGTO 01-05-2021 09:06 AM

Very cool car, what's the plan?

thebuick 01-05-2021 09:07 AM

I like it, and I would like them rear wheels if you are getting rid of them

GTOnly70 01-05-2021 11:56 AM

Looks like a viable project. Interesting that it came with column shift and bucket seats. Be sure to inspect the frame closely as the convertible boxed frames tend to rust from the inside out in the rust belt states. It's hard to tell how far gone the quarters are... I'd recommend salvaging the original quarter panels with patch panels if at all possible. Convertible quarters are slightly different than the hardtop quarters and are not reproduced. NOS quarters for convertibles are made of unobtainium.

vertigto 01-05-2021 04:44 PM

Nice score!

Looks like Dark Saddle interior to me, like my 70 GTO. If you are going to repaint any interior panels, let me know. I'm having a SEM custom Color Coat mixed up, since the color that supposedly matched my code was a little off. Should be able to save you the $25 mixing fee.

Mine will match the correct Legendary seat covers and interior panels.

Baron Von Zeppelin 01-07-2021 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by S Courter (Post 6211546)
Brought this home today.

Cool Car !
Congratulations on the new ownership :)

north 01-07-2021 02:24 PM

I think that is sandalwood (all be it dirty) because iirc saddle was not offered on ragtops.

Baron Von Zeppelin 01-07-2021 03:36 PM

It's saddle for sure.
Brown was the Non-Convertible color
But i like it better than saddle.

There is a 70 RamAir4 4spd Judge Convertible OrbitOrange with Saddle interior
...and a Gold Top.

north 01-07-2021 03:41 PM

I forgot there was a 7th color in 70. So Sandalwood (which was the lightest color available that year) and a little more golden Saddle used the same color dash (sort of beige?) while Brown (hardtop only) was a chocolate type color?

vertigto 01-07-2021 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by north (Post 6212548)
I think that is sandalwood (all be it dirty) because iirc saddle was not offered on ragtops.

Good point...forgot that 253 (Brown) was not offered on convertibles for 1970. If that's Sandlewood, it's pretty dirty.

For reference, here's my interior before restoration.

https://cdn.dealeraccelerate.com/str...70-pontiac-gto

north 01-07-2021 03:54 PM

1970 brown and saddle are like 1969 gold in that most of the repop interior covers and panels and all of the repop paint sprays are so wrong its hard to know what is right without seeing good original interiors

Baron Von Zeppelin 01-07-2021 04:05 PM

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All 3 used a different color dashpad
Chocolate best describes dash/console on Brown - like you said

Here are a Saddle and a Sandalwood to compare
The door panels and carpet tones are best place to look on old/weathered interiors when trying to gauge the color at a glance between Saddle and Sandal

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1610049822
https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1610049822

Baron Von Zeppelin 01-07-2021 04:17 PM

Some pieces in Courter's interior could pass for 2 or 3 of the shades - looking at the picture with poor lighting.
Seats could pass for sandal or saddle
Door Panels look saddle
The dash could pass for saddle or brown
Carpet could pass for saddle or brown
Pillar posts look like brown

I just went with saddle since brown wasn't supposed to be available.

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For reference, here's my interior before restoration.
Yours is Brown , Right ?
Not Saddle

S Courter 01-07-2021 07:32 PM

Trim code 255 so saddle it is. Also discovered today that it has power drivers seat. Got the engine started today. Actually runs pretty good. Changed oil and filter. Carb is incorrect as it is a 68. Has Posi so I'm assuming 3:23 gears. Ordered PHS so we will see. I think the A/C may even work????? My wife's cat jumped up on the top and promptly fell through. Was not hurt. Have not tried the power top yet.

Held for Ransom 01-07-2021 08:23 PM

Steve, what plant built it? When was it built? Original radiator?

vertigto 01-07-2021 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin (Post 6212585)
Yours is Brown , Right ?
Not Saddle

Yes...253 (Brown). Everybody seems to call it something different...Legendary says burnished dark saddle (matched), PUI, OPGI and Ames say dark saddle (did not match) and needed a SEM custom mix.

scott70 01-07-2021 10:55 PM

Like my 70 gto with code 255,,,,the interior is a mix of saddle and dark saddle.

Baron Von Zeppelin 01-08-2021 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by vertigto (Post 6212713)
Yes...253 (Brown).

I like that Brown / Dark Saddle / Chocolate interior , you don't see them often either.
It would have been killer in 69 with Expresso Brown exterior.

What color is your exterior going to be ?

north 01-08-2021 02:11 PM

A link to the 70 Colors and Interiors booklet

http://www.gt-37.org/gallery/index.php?/category/67

It notes on the first page that all interior colors were fully color matched except Sandalwood which used "dark Sandalwood" carpet, dash etc

I knew a 70 GTO around here that had the brown interior with Burgundy exterior, sharp rich looking combo.

vertigto 01-08-2021 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin (Post 6212745)
I like that Brown / Dark Saddle / Chocolate interior , you don't see them often either.
It would have been killer in 69 with Expresso Brown exterior.

What color is your exterior going to be ?

Staying stock...so Granada Gold with 253 Brown.

I really like it/odd colors, although I am aware that in 1970 'Gold' was a popular color. Really like the Brown interior also and seems that Saddle/Dark Saddle is becoming a popular choice for custom interiors on restomods these days.

The body should be going in the booth soon, so will post up pics when able.

S Courter 01-08-2021 09:07 PM

HFR Built in Baltimore production date12B Yes I believe it is the original radiator. Have not checked it thoroughly yet. Tried the top and it moved. Didn't want to go too far with it. Verified the the engine is the original.

S Courter 02-10-2022 10:41 PM

update
 
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Making great progress. Should be paint ready early this summer. Original engine has been rebuilt and awaits paint. Transmission is next. Legendary interior kit is in house after 8 month wait. Knew it as going to be an issue so ordered early.

Pepper Judge 02-12-2022 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by S Courter (Post 6212640)
Has Posi so I'm assuming 3:23 gears. Ordered PHS so we will see.

What did the PHS show? Locate a build sheet?

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Originally Posted by S Courter (Post 6317907)
Making great progress.

Looking good; save the original quarters?

S Courter 02-12-2022 09:38 PM

I did not find a build sheet. PHS says NO posi. Yes, I was able to repair the quarters with some reproduction sections.
Making good progress for someone who turned 70 last fall!!

S Courter 03-20-2022 10:42 PM

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I did find a nice build sheet. It was behind the drivers seat back. Motor is painted, transmission rebuilt with some mild upgrades and both are back in place in the car. Starting to get things reinstalled so motor can be started. Those are the original valve covers. They cleaned up real nice!! Body work is complete and ready for paint.

will slow gto 03-20-2022 11:17 PM

You’ll have it back on the road in no time. Looking forward to pics of the new Legendary interior

thebuick 03-21-2022 06:59 AM

impressive job so far what color will you paint it ?

lamans71 03-21-2022 05:49 PM

Lots of progress from the starting point, looking good.

pggto 03-22-2022 02:36 PM

Wow! You made quick work of this project. Car is looking good, can't wait to see it painted.

tjs72lemans 03-23-2022 03:33 PM

Maybe I missed it earlier about the engine paint color. Is that correct rather than the robin blue or whatever color it's referred to? My 72 I painted the other blue because I thought that was correct, but I like the earlier silver blue like yours instead.

S Courter 05-26-2022 07:56 PM

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Got everything in the engine bay installed/buttoned up. Completed my exhaust system. Started the motor for the first time and broke in the cam. Everything went well and I am glad to have that behind me!! Installed sound deadener on floor. Need to get some paint ordered and get painting scheduled. Been working on my LS1 powered 69 El Camino sorting out some suspension issues so the GTO has been neglected some.

S Courter 10-05-2022 07:53 PM

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Well, it took longer than I expected to get it into my painters schedule but it is finally painted. Came out great!! Sanding and buffing is next. Sending the front buckets out to have upholstery installed next week.

dataway 10-06-2022 12:56 AM

From Barn to Beauty Queen :)

SD455DJ 10-07-2022 08:45 AM

Looking great Steve!

Dennis

Shiny 10-07-2022 09:47 AM

Excellent!

You must be really happy to see that.

Scarebird 10-07-2022 11:41 AM

Looks great!

Pepper Judge 10-10-2022 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by S Courter (Post 6328258)
I did find a nice build sheet. It was behind the drivers seat back.

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...4&d=1647830328
Nice find and in good shape. Makes more sense to be behind the seat back than on top of a gas tank really.

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...9&d=1665013791
Looking great!

Mark Simiele 10-12-2022 08:48 PM

very nice

S Courter 10-14-2022 10:05 AM

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couple pictures of it sitting out in the sun.

MJZ 10-14-2022 01:07 PM

Question?
 
Did you have to replace the windshield header?

S Courter 10-14-2022 10:05 PM

MJZ If you are talking about the front header assembly for the convertible top frame, yes I did have to replace it. It was rusted bad1!

MJZ 10-15-2022 04:21 AM

I’ve been putting it off for a couple of years. It just seems it will be a major pain in the butt to repair, was it?

S Courter 12-29-2022 09:16 PM

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Carpet and front seats installed. The power drivers seat was not fun!!!

Baron Von Zeppelin 12-29-2022 11:21 PM

Its really looking great.
Congrats on the results

Staying with a White Top ?
That will look Sharp

bulletpruf 12-31-2022 01:38 AM

Damn, that's a nice one.

S Courter 12-31-2022 05:52 PM

I'm liking the saddle more and more. Pictures don't do it justice. Yes staying with white top as original.

S Courter 01-11-2023 08:22 PM

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Finished installing the interior with the exception of window cranks. New ones on the way. Am pleased with how it turned out. Again pictures don't do it justice.
GTO door badges are installed just not in these pictures. Here is rear quarter shot. Spent a few hours getting rear bumper to where I am happy with it

Shiny 01-11-2023 08:33 PM

Beautiful.. I would hope you're happy!! Nice job!


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